Indian 13-year-old raped as punishment for her brother's groping of village woman

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Whats weird in a statistical sense is the skin color has some kind of correlation to violent activity.

Why is that?

It does? I think you if you were able to find stats of violent activity through the history of mankind, you'd find that there is no correlation at all.

The only correlation you'd find would be small sample sizes of a few decades or a few hundred years. If you know about stats, you would also know about sample sizes right?

 

[Hugo Drax]

It does? Explain please.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

 

[Victorian Gray]

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

A neo-nazi wikipedia? Seriously?

 

[Hugo Drax]

A neo-nazi wikipedia? Seriously?

I don't see any swasticas on that website.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I don't see any swasticas on that website.

Again, seriously?

"The modus operandi of Jews among non-Jewish nations is always the same:

Loop begin

Infiltration, typically strictly deny any Jewish existence and their own Jewishness

Coming unpleasantly in sight due to usury, child murder, bad-mouthing about country and folk, culture distortion, creating artificial conflicts like "class-conflict" or "feminism", moving aliens into the country by "tolerance", etc...

Create revolutions, terror systems, "Bolshevism", mass murderer, mass rubbing-out, "inflation", etc...

Get rolled back, confined or expelled

Cry loudly because of "persecution", whine, blackmail using international "justice"

End of loop"

and

"The book The Jewish Utopia by Higger✡ shows what they want to achieve by their modus operandi:

• The Jewish utopia is if everyone "spontaneously" follows the Jewish way of life. In reality, however, this process is far from spontaneous and it is in general abnormal to wish that everyone follows one way of life[9].
• They will not tolerate anyone they consider "unrighteous"[10].
• Because of their assumed superiority they will feel justified to annihiltate those who they consider "wicked"[11].
• After having stolen the land in "Zion" (i.e. Palestine), they will consider themselves to be divine and godly people[12].
• Their utopia is to be the rulers of the world, because they consider themselves to be "ideal righteous people". The last stage of their plan is that the the whole world is ruled by the "divine" Jews[13]."

"http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jews#Among_nations

seig fucking heil

 

[werepossum]

Didn't know that the Hindu religion was called that as well.

Are they Hindu? Granted, I was assuming they are Muslim since that's a very Islamic thing (and very non-Hindu) to do, AND India has recently been in the news for taking action against Islamic Sharia which tends to have similar judgements, AND many of the lowest of the low are Muslim (Google Azral caste) but I do not know for certain. But if they ARE Hindu, then all I can say is . . .

They sure are acting like Muslims!

 

[Victorian Gray]

Are they Hindu? Granted, I was assuming they are Muslim since that's a very Islamic thing (and very non-Hindu) to do, AND India has recently been in the news for taking action against Islamic Sharia which tends to have similar judgements, AND many of the lowest of the low are Muslim (Google Azral caste) but I do not know for certain. But if they ARE Hindu, then all I can say is . . .

They sure are acting like Muslims!

Except 'honour killings' happen in pretty much all the major religions and all over the world. It's *not* a Muslim 'thing'. It's not even really a religious thing. It's a cultural issue.

The picture and names in the original article seemed pretty obviously not Muslim, btw.

 

[werepossum]

Except 'honour killings' happen in pretty much all the major religions and all over the world. It's *not* a Muslim 'thing'. It's not even really a religious thing. It's a cultural issue.

The picture and names in the original article seemed pretty obviously not Muslim, btw.

A "cultural thing" that happens to come along with the Islamic faith, but not a religious thing. Gotcha.

Pictures and names of Indian Muslims look pretty much like other Indians, dude, with the exception maybe of around coastal Malabar and Gujaret where more Arabs settled. Most Indian Muslims outside of the Punjab region were converts, not rapes or love children or immigrants.

But in any case, I did a bit of reading and these are probably of a scheduled tribe and therefore probably Sarnaists - who just happened to be acting like Muslims. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

 

[Victorian Gray]

A "cultural thing" that happens to come along with the Islamic faith, but not a religious thing. Gotcha.

Pictures and names of Indian Muslims look pretty much like other Indians, dude, with the exception maybe of around coastal Malabar and Gujaret where more Arabs settled. Most Indian Muslims outside of the Punjab region were converts, not rapes or love children or immigrants.

But in any case, I did a bit of reading and these are probably of a scheduled tribe and therefore probably Sarnaists - who just happened to be acting like Muslims. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

To blame honour killings on *any* religion is just ignorant and I say that as a fan of no religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing#General_cultural_features

"The cultural features which lead to honor killings are complex. Honor killings involve violence and fear as a tool of maintaining control. Honor killings are argued to have their origin among nomadic peoples and herdsmen: such populations carry all their valuables with them and risk having them stolen, and do not have proper recourse to law. As a result, inspiring fear, using aggression, and cultivating a reputation for violent revenge in order to protect property is preferred to other behaviors. In societies where there is a weak rule of law, people must build fierce reputations.[22]

In many cultures where honor is of central value, men are sources, or active generators /agents of that honor, while the only effect that women can have on honor is to destroy it. [23] Once the honor is destroyed by the woman, there is a need for immediate revenge to restore it, in order for the family to avoid losing face in the community. As Amnesty International statement notes:

The regime of honour is unforgiving: women on whom suspicion has fallen are not given an opportunity to defend themselves, and family members have no socially acceptable alternative but to remove the stain on their honour by attacking the woman.[24]"

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[werepossum]

To blame honour killings on *any* religion is just ignorant and I say that as a fan of no religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing#General_cultural_features

"The cultural features which lead to honor killings are complex. Honor killings involve violence and fear as a tool of maintaining control. Honor killings are argued to have their origin among nomadic peoples and herdsmen: such populations carry all their valuables with them and risk having them stolen, and do not have proper recourse to law. As a result, inspiring fear, using aggression, and cultivating a reputation for violent revenge in order to protect property is preferred to other behaviors. In societies where there is a weak rule of law, people must build fierce reputations.[22]

In many cultures where honor is of central value, men are sources, or active generators /agents of that honor, while the only effect that women can have on honor is to destroy it. [23] Once the honor is destroyed by the woman, there is a need for immediate revenge to restore it, in order for the family to avoid losing face in the community. As Amnesty International statement notes:

The regime of honour is unforgiving: women on whom suspicion has fallen are not given an opportunity to defend themselves, and family members have no socially acceptable alternative but to remove the stain on their honour by attacking the woman.[24]"

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When a nation gets more Islamic or more rabidly Islamic, honor killings go up. When a nation gets more Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist/Jainist or more rabidly Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist/Jainist, honor killings do not go up. Culture does not explain that. A nation becoming more fundamentalist Islamic will also experience a rise in honor killings; it is not becoming more cultured.

I would not blame every honor killing on Islam, obviously, but Islam accounts for the vast majority of them.

 

[Victorian Gray]

When a nation gets more Islamic or more rabidly Islamic, honor killings go up. When a nation gets more Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist/Jainist or more rabidly Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist/Jainist, honor killings do not go up. Culture does not explain that. A nation becoming more fundamentalist Islamic will also experience a rise in honor killings; it is not becoming more cultured.

I would not blame every honor killing on Islam, obviously, but Islam accounts for the vast majority of them.

Islam accounts for none of them. There is nothing in islamic scripture that calls for or justifies such action.

I get it, it's not about honour killings, it's about banging on Islam and Muslims.

btw, Hindu honour killings in India happen to be on the rise and have been for a number of years.

But hey, Islam BOO!

 

[alcoholbob]

Whats weird in a statistical sense is the skin color has some kind of correlation to violent activity.

Why is that?

Are you saying people who are the darker side of skin pigmentation within a racial category, let's say the Castilians or Italians, are more crime prone then those on the lighter side, say the Irish?

 

[Abwx]

Religion of peace, dude.

An italian saying : below the belt there s no more religion...

Dont be stupid, oh, i forgot that it s werepossum...

More seriously, people just dont realize that sexual abuse is by far the most practiced criminal activity whatever the countries.

I recently learn that in France in the 18e century there was a powerfull and very rich perve that did rape girls aged from 3 to 10 years at the rate of 2 per day during 30 years , the number of his victims stand at 20 000 at least, so when reading such things one can only conclude that the amount of evilness that some people can wage is just staggering and that there s inherently more of theses criminals than at these times given that the population has increased several fold since the 18e century.

Islam accounts for none of them. There is nothing in islamic scripture that calls for or justifies such action.

I get it, it's not about honour killings, it's about banging on Islam and Muslims.

btw, Hindu honour killings in India happen to be on the rise and have been for a number of years.

But hey, Islam BOO!

Werepossum has no honour himself, he doesnt mind spreading falsehood by the truckload , a hater who find sometime an accomplice in the forums where he spill his sad faith....

 

[smackababy]

This story has to be overblown. People continue to tell me India is a safe place for women and rapes aren't common there.

 

[squarecut1]

An italian saying : below the belt there s no more religion...

Dont be stupid, oh, i forgot that it s werepossum...

More seriously, people just dont realize that sexual abuse is by far the most practiced criminal activity whatever the countries.

I recently learn that in France in the 18e century there was a powerfull and very rich perve that did rape girls aged from 3 to 10 years at the rate of 2 per day during 30 years , the number of his victims stand at 20 000 at least, so when reading such things one can only conclude that the amount of evilness that some people can wage is just staggering and that there s inherently more of theses criminals than at these times given that the population has increased several fold since the 18e century.

Yes when it comes to sex, there is no limit to human depravity. This part about human nature has always been the same

 

[Abwx]

Yes when it comes to sex, there is no limit to human depravity. This part about human nature has always been the same

Indeed, people are generaly clueless on this matter, for those who are not easily impressed and who can stand reading some horrors i advise to have some reading of the "most despicable books written in human history" according to their author s own words , the much decried Marquis de Sade.

Sensible souls should abstain from reading thoses but anyway they are extremely telling about the sexuality being the real driving force of any man, whatever his religion or lack of...

 

[Abwx]

This story has to be overblown. People continue to tell me India is a safe place for women and rapes aren't common there.

Dont know personaly but i suspect that poverty and rape are somewhat linked and it has nothing to do with religion, quite the contrary generaly, religion tend to reduce such a behaviour in places were the social conditions increase the probability of such injustices.

I live in France in a city of 250 000 and from time to time there s some quite disturbing events, recently a wealthy person that i used to know because i had business relation with his associate did rape his niece, he was 55 and she was 16, both are jewish and the man is part of a very renowed family...

And that is what is publicly known since digging the society make you learn things that you would otherwise never have imagined even when drinking a gallon of whisky, among other a regular french that was using pigeons as, well, you did understand what i mean...

 

[squarecut1]

Sensible souls should abstain from reading thoses but anyway they are extremely telling about the sexuality being the real driving force of any man, whatever his religion or lack of...

According to Freud, our conscious and subconscious sexual desires dictate all of our actions. According to him, at the root of it all is sex

 

[Abwx]

According to Freud, our conscious and subconscious sexual desires dictate all of our actions. According to him, at the root of it all is sex

Freud got his inspiration from the guy i mentioned and i think that he s much inferior, on a scientifical basis, than him, but anyway this is right.
Sexuality exist in its simplest forms for more than one billion years , religions are at most a few dozen thousands years old for the most primitive ones and didnt exist for most of the humans history.

It is likely that religions appeared as a mean to control sexuality in socialised societies as the sexual instinct is destructive and a cause of conflict by the definition.

Later monogamy was added because sexual services if not provided to the whole society will be a factor of instability if an elite was to monopolize it.

 

[werepossum]

Islam accounts for none of them. There is nothing in islamic scripture that calls for or justifies such action.

I get it, it's not about honour killings, it's about banging on Islam and Muslims.

btw, Hindu honour killings in India happen to be on the rise and have been for a number of years.

But hey, Islam BOO!

Hey, if you wish to pretend that honor killings are not predominantly Muslim, I have no problem with you continually being surprised by the "accidental" correlation.

 

[Abwx]

Hey, if you wish to pretend that honor killings are not predominantly Muslim, I have no problem with you continually being surprised by the "accidental" correlation.

200 000 muslims killed by the Bush fascist government were honor killings performed on random and indeed innocent people, so can i conclude that christians are practicing state sponsored honor killings just because the US got a soon to become criminal president.?..

That said i originate from Algeria, get there and try to do some kind of honor killings, you ll likely end jailed in some remote location in the desert for a few decades.

 

[Mani]

This story has to be overblown. People continue to tell me India is a safe place for women and rapes aren't common there.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/quick-click/which-country-has-the-highest-reported-incidents-rape-data