• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

indefinate integral

SoundTheSurrender

Diamond Member
So here is the problem...

/ (z)/ root (z+5) dz

it can be turned to

/ (z)(z+5)^(-1/2)



u = (z+5)

du = 1

dx = 1

Then I'm lost from here because I'm not sure what to do.

Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: djmihow
So here is the problem...

/ (z)/ root (z+5) dz

it can be turned to

/ (z)(z+5)^(-1/2)



u = (z+5)

du = 1

dx = 1

Then I'm lost from here because I'm not sure what to do.

Thanks.

ok... your dx=1 should be dz=1
then, you take your expression
/ (z)(z+5)^(-1/2) dz
and substitute your u and dz in and you get
/ (z)u^(-1/2)
now you have a z in there!
so go back to your u equation
u = z+5
and solve for z
z = u-5
substitute that for z and you get
/ (u-5)u^(-1/2)
and then... i think you distribute that.. and you get
/ u^(1/2) - 5u^(-1/2)
and now you can do basic intergration on that

hmm ok... i hope thats right.. somebody pleeeaase correct me if i did something wrong!
 
Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
Originally posted by: djmihow
So here is the problem...

/ (z)/ root (z+5) dz

it can be turned to

/ (z)(z+5)^(-1/2)



u = (z+5)

du = 1

dx = 1

Then I'm lost from here because I'm not sure what to do.

Thanks.

ok... your dx=1 should be dz=1
then, you take your expression
/ (z)(z+5)^(-1/2) dz
and substitute your u and dz in and you get
/ (z)(u^-1/2)
now you have an a z in there!
so go back to your u equation
u = z+5
and solve for z
z = u-5
substitute that for z and you get
/ (u-5)(u^-1/2)
and then... i think you distribute that.. and you get
/ (u^1/2)-5u^-1/2
and now you can do basic intergration on that

hmm ok... i hope thats right.. somebody pleeeaase correct me if i did something wrong!

Looks about right, but the notation can be confusing for the OP.
u^-1/2 is better written as u^(-1/2) or, (the same) 1/sqrt(u), or (using OP's notation) 1/root(u)



 
Originally posted by: djmihow
I have this problem.

(1+x^2)/(x^2) Dx

so.. do I change it to

(1+x^2)(x^-2) ?

I don't know what to do with d and du... they don't form right.

Split up the numerator.

(1+x^2)/x^2 = 1/x^2 + x^2/x^2 = 1/x^2 + 1

The rest should be straight forward.

Edit: I guess if it makes it easier to integrate, you can write it as x^-2 + 1. Either way, the result is the same.
 
so it should be.

1x^(-2)+1dx

1 / x^-2 dx + 1 / dx / = represents the integrate sign

then

x^(-1)/1 +1x

1/x + 1x

but it should be 1/x - 1x.... I don't know how to get a negative?

according to my calculator, it should = 4.8 because it goes from 1 to 5...


 
Originally posted by: aux
Originally posted by: Elderly Newt
Originally posted by: djmihow
So here is the problem...

/ (z)/ root (z+5) dz

it can be turned to

/ (z)(z+5)^(-1/2)



u = (z+5)

du = 1

dx = 1

Then I'm lost from here because I'm not sure what to do.

Thanks.

ok... your dx=1 should be dz=1
then, you take your expression
/ (z)(z+5)^(-1/2) dz
and substitute your u and dz in and you get
/ (z)(u^-1/2)
now you have an a z in there!
so go back to your u equation
u = z+5
and solve for z
z = u-5
substitute that for z and you get
/ (u-5)(u^-1/2)
and then... i think you distribute that.. and you get
/ (u^1/2)-5u^-1/2
and now you can do basic intergration on that

hmm ok... i hope thats right.. somebody pleeeaase correct me if i did something wrong!

Looks about right, but the notation can be confusing for the OP.
u^-1/2 is better written as u^(-1/2) or, (the same) 1/sqrt(u), or (using OP's notation) 1/root(u)


The two of you just killed what few remaining brain cells I had left. 🙁 I know that people like you design the bridges I drive over every day...thank you for being so smart!

For the life of me; I'll never understand these....THINGS that you figure out with such ease.

You read the problem. You thought about it. You solved it.

To me, I see this:

Take the equation Y%w3/>^550.ee.
Add 1.56 kilograms of apples
Subtract one French Apple Pie of unknown weight
A dog of unknown size pees on it
A full moon shines ONLY 44% of it's available ultraviolet light on it
The square is 0)98(8*&6?@>>NULL
Enter your result here =


😕
 
Originally posted by: 6shiw1
lol, calculus? I thought most of AT would have been familiar with integration as a sophomore in highschool.

heh, i didnt even get to finish my geometry classes. my math ability is pathetic.
 
Back
Top