Incredibly interesting article on how power in North Korea is maintained

yllus

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This is best explanation of how power in the North Korean totalitarian state is maintained that I've ever come across. Thought I'd share.

The mother of all dictatorships

Dismissing what the North Korean regime tells the outside world, the [Brian Myers of South Korea's Dongseo University] looks instead at North Korea’s domestic propaganda, the Kim family cult and the country’s official myths. From these he pieces together what North Koreans are supposed to believe.

He concludes that Mr Kim’s power is based not just on surveillance and repression. Nor can its survival be ascribed simply to the effective brainwashing of the population. Rather, the personality cult proceeds from powerful myths about race and history.

Ideas of racial purity lie at the heart of North Koreans’ self-image. Since the regime’s founding, they have been taught to think that they are a unique race, incapable of evil. Virtue, in turn, has made Koreans as vulnerable as children. Korea’s history, the regime insists, is the history of a child-race abused by adults—Chinese, Japanese and American.

Pure, spontaneous and naive, Koreans need a caring, protective leader. The upshot is the Kims’ peculiar cult, of state-sponsored infantilism.

You see no chin-thrusting depictions of father or son on the monumental streets of Pyongyang. In art as in life, both Kims are effeminate and podgy. Warnings against fleeing to China are conveyed as directed at a squirrel who wanders too far. In paintings, Kim Il Sung tucks children into bed. The nation lies at the “breast” of Kim Jong Il and his party. As commander-in-chief of the armed forces, Mr Kim is even called “Mother General”.

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Mr Myers wonders why Mr Kim would ever give up confrontation with America when his legitimacy rests upon it. After a deadly famine in the mid-1990s and, in recent weeks, a bungled currency confiscation, he has no interest in claiming to stand for material prosperity. Anyway, South Korea wins that competition hands-down. Rather, nuclear crises since 1994—and the detonation of a first nuclear device in 2006—allow him to present himself as the nation’s defender against aggression.

In 2009 the country’s “military-first” policy, making the armed forces the nation’s highest priority, was even enshrined in the constitution. Fascism is Mr Kim’s last refuge. Giving up nuclear weapons would spell the end. So he negotiates with America not to end tensions, but to manage them: neither all-out war nor all-out peace.

What would bring the regime down, then? Thanks to the advancing creep of knowledge, North Koreans know that the South is richer by far. But the propaganda state has found a way around that. South Koreans may be rich, but they are desperately unhappy because they are under the thumb of the despised Yankees. Harder to deal with, by far, would be to find out that South Koreans are content in their republic.
 

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may have to put that book on my reading list. i've got a textbook on chinese history and a book about wwii on my shelf waiting to be read.
 
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There's a very interesting interview at NPR's show, On Point, with a woman who wrote a book about the lives of people in North Korea.

http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/02/north-korean-lives

What I found most touching was the story about a woman who fled into China and saw a bowl of food sitting out in front of a house and wondered why anyone would leave food out. Then she realized it was for the dogs! These people were so well off that they fed food to dogs! At that point she realized that almost everything she had ever been taught about the world was completely false.
 

JS80

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Author does not get it. The West is getting closer to understanding, but still has a ways to go.

Most of the metaphors to describe NK in that article also resonates in SK. Ironically, if someone had replaced NK with SK in the article and removed North nuances, and I read it for the first time, I would not have batted an eye. Maybe not so ironic, but ultimately SK was allowed to prosper because it operated under the puppet dictatorship guided by the benevolence of the US. All the xenophobia and pure blood crap is the same shit that poisons the entire peninsula.
 

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Author does not get it. The West is getting closer to understanding, but still has a ways to go.

Most of the metaphors to describe NK in that article also resonates in SK. Ironically, if someone had replaced NK with SK in the article and removed North nuances, and I read it for the first time, I would not have batted an eye. Maybe not so ironic, but ultimately SK was allowed to prosper because it operated under the puppet dictatorship guided by the benevolence of the US. All the xenophobia and pure blood crap is the same shit that poisons the entire peninsula.

Yeah racial supremacism is not unique to North Korea.

In SK you can't even serve in the military if you don't look 100% ethnic korean.
 

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Author does not get it. The West is getting closer to understanding, but still has a ways to go.

Most of the metaphors to describe NK in that article also resonates in SK. Ironically, if someone had replaced NK with SK in the article and removed North nuances, and I read it for the first time, I would not have batted an eye. Maybe not so ironic, but ultimately SK was allowed to prosper because it operated under the puppet dictatorship guided by the benevolence of the US. All the xenophobia and pure blood crap is the same shit that poisons the entire peninsula.

I have heard some of the xenophobia and pureblood-type sentiments you mention, but I think that its important to have context. Mainly, that the sometimes excessive nationalism Koreans exhibit is a reaction to the cultural genocide the Japanese attempted (and nearly succeeded). Not an excuse, but just context.
 

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I have heard some of the xenophobia and pureblood-type sentiments you mention, but I think that its important to have context. Mainly, that the sometimes excessive nationalism Koreans exhibit is a reaction to the cultural genocide the Japanese attempted (and nearly succeeded). Not an excuse, but just context.


agreed. both of these countries still have some racist ideas going on but hopefully through generations this becomes less and less.
 

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Author does not get it. The West is getting closer to understanding, but still has a ways to go.

Most of the metaphors to describe NK in that article also resonates in SK. Ironically, if someone had replaced NK with SK in the article and removed North nuances, and I read it for the first time, I would not have batted an eye. Maybe not so ironic, but ultimately SK was allowed to prosper because it operated under the puppet dictatorship guided by the benevolence of the US. All the xenophobia and pure blood crap is the same shit that poisons the entire peninsula.
I've not read the article yet. I do find north korea very interesting. It's the only topic I seem to not be able to get enough information for my liking. I'd love to see more pics, for example, of how people there actually live or details about the prison camps and just life in general but it's hard to get.

Anyway, puppet or not I'd rather be a puppet in south korea :)

I read it. I'd not thought of it from the child/mother perspective but otherwise no surprise. It's been obvious to a layman that Kim has no interest in getting rid of nukes no matter what because they are his ace in the hole. I've said for years that he has played the west his bitch and done a great job at it. In recent times he has maintained power, maintained his luxury, and cemented it with the threat of nukes and the occasional statement that instill just enough fear that people think maybe, just maybe, he really is absolutely insane and will, like a tantrumed child, attack with a nuclear weapon or all his artillery in some capacity. But he won't because it would spell his end. I'd say he's done a great job from his perspective in manhandling everybody else.

In many decades of dealing with NK the West has made no inroads whatsoever and now NK is technically a nuclear power to boot.
 
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StageLeft

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Hitchens wrote a polemic along these lines recently called "A nation of racist dwarves":
http://www.slate.com/id/2243112/pagenum/all/
In his article he references a bad link, presumably this is the image he intended, showing the light of north vs south at night:

korea_lights_lg.jpg
 

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For such a racist people, there isn't much to be proud of given the countless times they've been conquered. Reminds me of African-Americans. So racist yet they have nothing to show for it.
 

Jaskalas

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In his article he references a bad link, presumably this is the image he intended, showing the light of north vs south at night

Lights at night look like some sort of bacterial infection on the planet. Maybe NK is just trying to keep itself clean. You know, from those darn filthy human things.
 

Zorkorist

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There's a very interesting interview at NPR's show, On Point, with a woman who wrote a book about the lives of people in North Korea.

http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/02/north-korean-lives

What I found most touching was the story about a woman who fled into China and saw a bowl of food sitting out in front of a house and wondered why anyone would leave food out. Then she realized it was for the dogs! These people were so well off that they fed food to dogs! At that point she realized that almost everything she had ever been taught about the world was completely false.
That's a touching story, and it reminds me of when people say "clean your plate."

I'm sorry, but, clean my plate? How about serving less food.

-John
 

piasabird

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Death camps help to keep people in line and obeying you. North koreans use death camps.

Communists are pure evil. Be careful who you choose to emulate.