Incoming apple upgrades...

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
24,195
1,833
126
No, but Android tablet makers will certainly be considering it in the next couple of years. A mainstream, mass produced 64-bit ARM has a host of benefits including more powerful tablets PCs. 2GB is standard now, 4GB will probably be the norm by next year.
It doesn't really matter what Android is doing for stuff like this. Apple doesn't even advertise memory amounts, for good reason.

Android has 2 GB standard because it needs 2 GB to complete with Apple iOS products at 1 GB.

Bingo what?

Except they're faster.
I don't see any evidence that Apple is using faster NAND flash. They're just using a different controller interface. The reason PCIe SSD is faster is because it is PCIe, not because the components are faster. SATA SSDs are limited by the SATA interface, which so far tops out around 550 MB/s.

Anyway, you seemed to have missed my main point. That point is that Apple going forward will likely continue to use custom form-factors for their PCIe SSDs, and these form factors will not be used by anyone else. Consequently, you will not be able to get mainstream PCIe SSDs that will fit in Macs. You will only be able to get custom form factor SSDs, at much higher prices.
 

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
24,195
1,833
126
While I'm not expecting it, I'd like to see the next batch of iOS devices get USB 3.0, for two reasons:

1) Faster data transfer of course.
2) Faster charging when connected to a computer.

Standard USB 3 ports should be able to provide 900 mA to devices, as opposed to 500 mA on USB 2. Unfortunately, if standards are strictly adhered to, a USB 2 smartphone or tablet will still only draw a maximum of 500 mA when connected to a USB 3 port.
 

GWestphal

Golden Member
Jul 22, 2009
1,120
0
76
One thing that would be neat would be a hybrid/dock type solution. Imagine a macbook pro that uses and iPad for the screen. When it's docked on the MBP body it's just a screen. When you remove it, it becomes a iPad.
 

joshhedge

Senior member
Nov 19, 2011
601
0
0
One thing that would be neat would be a hybrid/dock type solution. Imagine a macbook pro that uses and iPad for the screen. When it's docked on the MBP body it's just a screen. When you remove it, it becomes a iPad.

Future of the air/iPad - you saw it here first ;)
 

dagamer34

Platinum Member
Aug 15, 2005
2,591
0
71
iPhone 5S: Fingerprint sensor, A7 (quad core), better camera, IGZO screen?, NFC?

Mac Pro: 12 core, dual GPU, smaller

iMac: wireless AC, Haswell, think this will have the same design as last year?, possible IGZO screens?, Thunderbolt 2?

iPad 6: A7X, mini to get retina, IGZO screens?, probably also fingerprint sensor, better camera, NFC?

MBP: Haswell, wireless AC, IGZO screens?, thunderbolt 2?, nicer cameras

Airs: Haswell, wireless AC, (still no retina which is insane...), nicer cameras

Mavericks: OpenGL 4.1 support (hopefully they can push it to 4.4 in the next year or so), some fancy scheduling and power saving under the hood jazz

iOS 7: finally front screen access to powering on and off features, new flat paint job


Does that pretty much sum up the incoming changes? I feel like there aren't any real game changers in there. While I appreciate the power saving work under the hood of Mavericks and nice tech like IGZO, things just seems a little lackluster. Maybe we're at the top of a technology S curve right now...


Things that would be nice....

iPhone:
-All band LTE (world phone),
-zero bezel screen,
-magsafe lightning/microUSB,
-sealed/water proof,
-no mechanical buttons (part of the sealing deal, not sure how that works with a speaker and but maybe a laser mic or just bluetooth only from the device),
-instant on camera,
-wireless charging,
-faster storage

iMac:
- new design,
-easier to upgrade,
-3mm thick zero bezel IGZO screen (a mini with and uber thin screen on top essentially,
-fingerprint scanner on mighty mouse.

Mac Pro-upgradeable

Air:
-Retina IGZO near zero bezel

The iMac just got a redesign to be thinner and lighter. It's not going to get another one so soon.

I see a 31.5" Retina Thunderbolt display released this year, but it'll be some insane price like $3299 (the panel exists, it's just a matter of time really).

All-band LTE doesn't exist, nor will it for a while. You also need to consider actually fitting the antennas into such a small phone, the iPhone has far less space to work with than a Galaxy S4 or HTC One does.

NFC isn't coming to the iPhone until next year (if at all) when they get to redesign the chassis.

There will be no wireless charging (increases bulk, can't use aluminum back.

Water sealing is out because it means rubber gaskets to cover ports, which is un-Apple like.

The lack of a mechanical button goes against everything the iPhone has been for the last 6 years...


Some of the stuff you are asking for is just wishful thinking really.
 

JAG87

Diamond Member
Jan 3, 2006
3,921
3
76
Evidence that the iPhone 5S could have a slightly bigger battery than in the iPhone 5?

The screw holes are placed differently, and according to the person doing the iPhone 5 teardown vs. the iPhone 5S backplate comparison in the video, this could suggest a somewhat slimmed down logic board and thus a somewhat larger battery beside it:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthony...gold-case-to-hold-larger-battery-faster-chip/


I don't think that kind of a battery size increase will bring any tangible improvement in battery life. i.e. Moving from 1440mAh to a ~1500-1600 mAh won't do anything special. What I think will happen is that the A7 processor being a rumored 30% faster will complete tasks and return to idle in 30% less time, thus providing probably better battery life. If combined with a more efficient display, we might see a tangible increase in battery life. Hopefully.... lol
 

joshhedge

Senior member
Nov 19, 2011
601
0
0
I don't think that kind of a battery size increase will bring any tangible improvement in battery life. i.e. Moving from 1440mAh to a ~1500-1600 mAh won't do anything special. What I think will happen is that the A7 processor being a rumored 30% faster will complete tasks and return to idle in 30% less time, thus providing probably better battery life. If combined with a more efficient display, we might see a tangible increase in battery life. Hopefully.... lol

Or it could be to maintain the current levels of battery life to offset the increased power requirements of the greater performance SoC. Who knows.
 
Last edited:

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
24,195
1,833
126
I don't think that kind of a battery size increase will bring any tangible improvement in battery life. i.e. Moving from 1440mAh to a ~1500-1600 mAh won't do anything special. What I think will happen is that the A7 processor being a rumored 30% faster will complete tasks and return to idle in 30% less time, thus providing probably better battery life. If combined with a more efficient display, we might see a tangible increase in battery life. Hopefully.... lol
1600/1440 = 1.11. That's an 11% improvement. That's not enormous, but it's nothing to sneeze at either, although as josh mentions, it may be necessary just to maintain battery life. They did that with the iPad 3 (although the battery size increase was much, much more).
 

JAG87

Diamond Member
Jan 3, 2006
3,921
3
76
1600/1440 = 1.11. That's an 11% improvement. That's not enormous, but it's nothing to sneeze at either, although as josh mentions, it may be necessary just to maintain battery life. They did that with the iPad 3 (although the battery size increase was much, much more).

IMO they really need to increase battery life if they want to slap the competition. Current battery life is not bad but it's not good either. A heavily used iPhone 5 barely makes to the end of the day.
 

joshhedge

Senior member
Nov 19, 2011
601
0
0
IMO they really need to increase battery life if they want to slap the competition. Current battery life is not bad but it's not good either. A heavily used iPhone 5 barely makes to the end of the day.

Still better than the vast majority of the competition, including flagship phones. The entire industry need to improve, but that is only going to occur through a technological breakthrough in battery technology IMO, rather than say process node advancement.
 
Last edited:

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
24,195
1,833
126
Well, Motorola has got the right idea.

razr_maxx_hd_battery.png