Included Gratuity: is this a thing in Miami?

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shortylickens

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defeats the point

It serves one purpose.

If a restaurant just increased prices to pay people, then their menu would look more expensive. By adding the forced gratuity they seem to keep the numbers smaller and in theory that increases business.

Most people dont add the tip or tax when they see a price on the menu. They see the number and judge the total value from that.
Which may explain why this country has so many financial issues.
 

cronos

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I usually tip between 18-20%. Included gratuity doesn't upset me as it saves me from the math. There'll be no additional tips from me though. That's all they'll get.
 

slag

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I usually tip very well 20-25% (assuming service is good of course) but if it's expected....it gets on my nerves and I end up not tipping AT ALL.

Stop fucking doing this as it ruins the curve for the rest of us who tip the societal norm of 15% for good service and less for poor service.
 

alkemyst

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Stop fucking doing this as it ruins the curve for the rest of us who tip the societal norm of 15% for good service and less for poor service.

Unfortunately, you don't understand that ANY service is 15%. You need to talk to the manager otherwise and work it out. Chances are it's the manager's fault.
 

K1052

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It's the number of international tourists not used to tipping or used to having it included. Last time I was there I think we were about the only Americans staying at the hotel. Saw tons of people from South America and Eastern Europe/Russia.
 

lupi

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Was listening to a WSJ article about something similar, some of the countries high priced establishments are eliminating tips, removing it from the credit slips, and prohibiting the staff from accepting cash as the tipping process is seen as a negtive part of the dining process and the owners don't want the last part of the exerience to be a negative one. Would be nice to see this spead throughout, one of the few aspects I'd be happy to see us join the rest of the world in following.
 

Colt45

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It's the number of international tourists not used to tipping or used to having it included. Last time I was there I think we were about the only Americans staying at the hotel. Saw tons of people from South America and Eastern Europe/Russia.

east europe tips, generally. somewhat less than here though, maybe 10%