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Inaugural Protesters are National Security Threat

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conjur

No Lifer
Inaugural Protests
http://www.npr.org/templates/s...ry.php?storyId=4282214
Morning Edition, January 13, 2005 · President Bush's second inauguration is slated to cost more than $40 million and will shut down much of downtown D.C. Many will come to celebrate but others plan to protest. Some dissenters are worried that their voices will be muted by a security infrastructure sympathetic to the administration. NPR's Larry Abramson reports.
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Caught a bit of this show this morning and it appears that protesters are being corraled away like during Bush's campaign.
 
So much for freedom to assemble.
We were going to head out there but it's not going to happen with work.
Well, if anyone here goes give bushie a swift kick in the ass for me and the woman if possible!
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Inaugural Protests
http://www.npr.org/templates/s...ry.php?storyId=4282214
Morning Edition, January 13, 2005 · President Bush's second inauguration is slated to cost more than $40 million and will shut down much of downtown D.C. Many will come to celebrate but others plan to protest. Some dissenters are worried that their voices will be muted by a security infrastructure sympathetic to the administration. NPR's Larry Abramson reports.
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Caught a bit of this show this morning and it appears that protesters are being corraled away like during Bush's campaign.
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Yep, I'll bet they're going to be locked away for hours & hours:cookie:
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: conjur
Inaugural Protests
http://www.npr.org/templates/s...ry.php?storyId=4282214
Morning Edition, January 13, 2005 · President Bush's second inauguration is slated to cost more than $40 million and will shut down much of downtown D.C. Many will come to celebrate but others plan to protest. Some dissenters are worried that their voices will be muted by a security infrastructure sympathetic to the administration. NPR's Larry Abramson reports.
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Caught a bit of this show this morning and it appears that protesters are being corraled away like during Bush's campaign.
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Yep, I'll bet they're going to be locked away for hours & hours:cookie:
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They were in NYC.

You should listen to the moron comparing them to terrorist sympathizers and Saddam lovers. Sounds like some of the Bush-God fanbois up here.
 
Never underestimate the decadence of Washington D.C.!

The right of the Decadent to hold parties in Washington D.C., is more important than a protest.

I guess I just dont understand how this crazy need for parties in DC has evolved and I just do not get it.

If it was up to me they would sware in the president in the Oval Office and the world would not skip a beat.
 
I do not agree nor dis agree, I just think that our Nation would look even sillier if there was a big demonstration during the Inauguration......
 
I fail to see how this is such a big deal. There's been a group of 1-5 anti-Bush protestors directly in front of the White House every day for the past four years calling him a terrorist, war criminal, etc. There's also been a no-nukes campsite manned on a continuous basis since early in the Reagan years right in Lafeyette Park across from the White House. Seeing this stuff everyday, I don't see how anyone's message is being suppressed.
 
Originally posted by: Grunt03
I do not agree nor dis agree, I just think that our Nation would look even sillier if there was a big demonstration during the Inauguration......
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Please. It would look great to the rest of the world. It would remind everyone that half of the country is disgusted by this guy.


 
Kind of like how protestors were constrained to a flooded, muddy and somewhat dangerous protest area within the confines of the Big Dig during the DNC in Boston...protestors were limited to fenced off areas like cattle that was limited in space and located in close proximity to digging, paving and clearing operations.

Both parties are equally guilty of censoring and silencing their detractors.
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Kind of like how protestors were constrained to a flooded, muddy and somewhat dangerous protest area within the confines of the Big Dig during the DNC in Boston...protestors were limited to fenced off areas like cattle that was limited in space and located in close proximity to digging, paving and clearing operations.

Both parties are equally guilty of censoring and silencing their detractors.
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In the case of the DNC wasn't this the police that decided how to deal with protestors? I recall Kerry saying something how he wouldn't have broken a Union line or something of that nature....
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Kind of like how protestors were constrained to a flooded, muddy and somewhat dangerous protest area within the confines of the Big Dig during the DNC in Boston...protestors were limited to fenced off areas like cattle that was limited in space and located in close proximity to digging, paving and clearing operations.

Both parties are equally guilty of censoring and silencing their detractors.
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While that wasn't necessarily fair, from what I remember of the issue, the area around the Fleet Center didn't offer a convenient location for protesters while still affording the level of security required.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Kind of like how protestors were constrained to a flooded, muddy and somewhat dangerous protest area within the confines of the Big Dig during the DNC in Boston...protestors were limited to fenced off areas like cattle that was limited in space and located in close proximity to digging, paving and clearing operations.

Both parties are equally guilty of censoring and silencing their detractors.
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While that wasn't necessarily fair, from what I remember of the issue, the area around the Fleet Center didn't offer a convenient location for protesters while still affording the level of security required.
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yar. anyone who has ever been to boston knows it's a serious cluster-f as far as streets and space is concerned. I love it 🙂
 
In the case of the DNC wasn't this the police that decided how to deal with protestors? I recall Kerry saying something how he wouldn't have broken a Union line or something of that nature....
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Tom Menino, the mayor of Boston and a Democrat, stipulated the security requirements for the convention, to include ensuring that delegates did not come in contact with protestors.

While that wasn't necessarily fair, from what I remember of the issue, the area around the Fleet Center didn't offer a convenient location for protesters while still affording the level of security required.
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Inconvenient in the sense that delegates were neither within sight or sound of the protestors...the protest area was confined by fences and drowned out by the sound of construction equipment...most protestors gave up or moved to the Boston Commons, which is not anywhere near the Fleet Center.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Grunt03
I do not agree nor dis agree, I just think that our Nation would look even sillier if there was a big demonstration during the Inauguration......
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Please. It would look great to the rest of the world. It would remind everyone that half of the country is disgusted by this guy.
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Exactly. Someone needs to show the world that Americans aren't all bad.
 
Well, he doesn't want to get embarrassed like he did last time.

I hope the protestors find a way through it, though. Make a big enough scene to cause a stir.
 
Exactly. Someone needs to show the world that Americans aren't all bad.
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The rest of the world does not seem to care what we think of them, so why are so many Americans concerned with what the rest of the world thinks of us...do you honestly think that if there is an Al Quaida cell in America, that it will spare the blue states, or attempt to spare Kerry supporters?
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Exactly. Someone needs to show the world that Americans aren't all bad.
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The rest of the world does not seem to care what we think of them, so why are so many Americans concerned with what the rest of the world thinks of us...do you honestly think that if there is an Al Quaida cell in America, that it will spare the blue states, or attempt to spare Kerry supporters?
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The rest of the world DOES care what we think of them. And when we attack and exploit, let's just say it doesn't make friends. And why are so many Americans concerned with the rest of the world? It's called the information age. Not only that, in blue states you actually interact face to face with people from other countries. So they matter, often even more than some random hick from a red state.

And the better half IS aware that Al Quaida attacked the blue states. That's why it is so laughable when red staters tremble about terrorism-- they aren't even the target! There's no important targets in fly-over country.
 
The rest of the world DOES care what we think of them.
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I beg to differ. In my experiences living overseas, I have not seen a tendency in other cultures to have any concern or regard for what America thinks about their foreign policy blunders.

Not only that, in blue states you actually interact face to face with people from other countries
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There are major urban areas and communities of people from other countries even in the Red States...cities like Atlanta, Cincinatti, Dallas, Houston, etc...not to mention the fact that there are Bush supporters who live in the blue states...typically upper middle class who live in the affluent suburbs but interact with people from other countries on a daily basis in their commutes to urban centers.

So they matter, often even more than some random hick from a red state.
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That you choose to stereotype, dismiss and insult those who live in those areas is why the Democrats failed to win their votes in 2004...those who live in the red states are as varied and different in terms of their social status, values, and hopes for the country as those from the blue states...and yes some of them are well educated, quite enlightened, and have simply dismissed the ideology of the left.

DISCLAIMER: I was born and raised in a concentrated liberal stronghold, and have spent most of my life living in blue states.
 
Did you live on a military airbase oversees? I can't explain why YOU don't see that other countries do care about US experience. I'm telling you why WE care. And I am not going to buy the cliche about upper-middle class Bush supporters anymore. Sure they exist. But in my exprience most high-income types in blue areas are Democrats. I also don't care about your analysis of the 2004 election or red-state morons. You asked why many people care about what other people in other countries think and I'm telling you why.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: conjur
Inaugural Protests
http://www.npr.org/templates/s...ry.php?storyId=4282214
Morning Edition, January 13, 2005 · President Bush's second inauguration is slated to cost more than $40 million and will shut down much of downtown D.C. Many will come to celebrate but others plan to protest. Some dissenters are worried that their voices will be muted by a security infrastructure sympathetic to the administration. NPR's Larry Abramson reports.
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Caught a bit of this show this morning and it appears that protesters are being corraled away like during Bush's campaign.
Click to expand...

Yep, I'll bet they're going to be locked away for hours & hours:cookie:
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yeah, they probably will be...
why does that get a cookie?
i want one!
 
Did you live on a military airbase oversees?
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Yes I was stationed overseas, and worked with a large number of local nationals primarily in Germany...in my five years overseas, I contended with some anti American sentiments, but I also learned that Europeans are as ignorant of our society and values as we are of theirs...they make assumptions and use stereotypes the same as everyone else...I also spent some time in eastern Europe, where people have a different perspective of Americans considering they have benefited greatly from our foreign policy.

But in my exprience most high-income types in blue areas are Democrats
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Depends on the area you live in...I currently live in a state that always goes blue, but the suburb I live in, which is middle to upper middle class and ethnically diverse is mostly Republican...lots of Bush stickers and American flags.

The political leanings of affluent communities really depends on who lives in those communities...take California for example...the affluent communities of LA county tend to lean left, yet the affluent communities of Orange county tend to lean right.
 
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