In what direction is humanity evolving culturally and politically?

[Matt1970]

In what direction is humanity evolving culturally and politically?

We are tired of lies.

We are tried of hearing how our democratically elected leader is a capitalist socialist extreme Christian Islamic terrorist who is suspected of rape, has a forged birth certificate and wants to place all of America in front of death panels over health insurance.

We have the power of accessing information at our fingertips. Calling out lies can happen almost immediately.

So, we can quickly and pretty easily filter out the crap. And, most of the crap is coming from the right.

We have been leaning more to the left - slowly but surly. And, it will get to the point where defective minds that once served a great purpose in preserving and protecting humanity will be the minority and phased out. It was great that conservatives warned us of lions and tigers and bear, but that kind of constant danger just isn't around anymore to the degree it use to be.

You really take yourself seriously don't you?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I was mimicking you. Glad you could see what you look like.

No, I have no self-hate. You, on the other hand, are full of self-hate and loathing. My advice? Stop trolling ATPN and you'll feel better.

 

[Matt1970]

No, I have no self-hate. You, on the other hand, are full of self-hate and loathing. My advice? Stop trolling ATPN and you'll feel better.

His self-hate and loathing could be nowhere near what he feels towards the right. Not even close. He is even blaming all the wars on CBD. His hatred is in a class all to itself.

 

[moonbogg]

Turn left.

There is wall there.

 

[Moonbeam]

Someone tell me what the right way to think is, and the explain how to do that. In detail, please.

You are asking the wrong question. In fact there are no questions. That is the answer you seek.

You want to know the right way to think. This is like asking what is the right way to be wrong. Thinking is the problem. Ask yourself what is thought. Thought is fragmentation, Thought is division, Thought is time. Thought is the creator of delusion. Thought is language, words learned in the past, words to which you have attached emotional meaning. This is good and that is bad, duality. Thought creates the good and the bad and thought decides which is what. The language of words was used against you when you were a child. You learned that you could be bad when in fact you were always perfect. You internalized that bad and called it your self. But the pain that caused was too much to consciously bear, so you divided yourself into the repressed self hater and the glorious ego. Now you live in constant fear of the collapse of that duality and the horror of original memory. But if you awaken the evil one and allow him to grieve, his tears will turn to laughter. You will be able to hug yourself again. There is only the now and infinite love. All this is there for he or she who dies to the false self. It has always been that way and always will be.

 

[moonbogg]

You are asking the wrong question. In fact there are no questions. That is the answer you seek.

You want to know the right way to think. This is like asking what is the right way to be wrong. Thinking is the problem. Ask yourself what is thought. Thought is fragmentation, Thought is division, Thought is time. Thought is the creator of delusion. Thought is language, words learned in the past, words to which you have attached emotional meaning. This is good and that is bad, duality. Thought creates the good and the bad and thought decides which is what. The language of words was used against you when you were a child. You learned that you could be bad when in fact you were always perfect. You internalized that bad and called it your self. But the pain that caused was too much to consciously bear, so you divided yourself into the repressed self hater and the glorious ego. Now you live in constant fear of the collapse of that duality and the horror of original memory. But if you awaken the evil one and allow him to grieve, his tears will turn to laughter. You will be able to hug yourself again. There is only the now and infinite love. All this is there for he or she who dies to the false self. It has always been that way and always will be.

If I am experiencing myself and I am the driving force that is love, why am I capable of beheadings...(to clarify, humanity in general. I don't behead people and won't)

 

[sandorski]

I sure hope so... we've got all kinds of groups benefiting greatly from lies as well as the "there's no such thing as truth" or "everyone has their own truth" crowds.

Right now we seem to be descending because of the huge ability to do almost anything we damn well please without having to answer to anyone for it.

Hedonism at its finest.

What is Truth?

 

[pcgeek11]

Just look at the posts by the conservatards in the gas thread.

The cowardly losers blatantly lie with every post they make.

Hiding behind computer monitors has de-evolved humanity back to the brain size of an zygote.

Well, I guess you would know this better than most.

 

[dank69]

If I am experiencing myself and I am the driving force that is love, why am I capable of beheadings...(to clarify, humanity in general. I don't behead people and won't)

The mind can rationalize anything away, even beheading children. You were just cleansing the world of evil. Beheading children is a good thing. A just thing, and you are a righteous man for doing it.

 

[Moonbeam]

The mind can rationalize anything away, even beheading children. You were just cleansing the world of evil. Beheading children is a good thing. A just thing, and you are a righteous man for doing it.

I think that is explaining the fact of something by a description of it. It does not tell him why one person can believe in beheading and why another does not. We need to understand that actions have motivations and how those motivations come into being. It seems to me that I did explain that to him.

Human beings are animals composed of a reptilian, a mammalian, and a human brain and that brain is bicameral in nature. Each hemisphere is capable of containing a separate independent consciousness, one that is dominant vis-à-vis its counterpart in language, the self we know ourselves to be, and one that is basically silent, that one much better at linear thinking, and the other at pattern recognition. As a result, we can feel two different things at a time. The corpus callosum which connects these two brain halves is, by the way, larger in women.

In certain ancient traditional psychologies engaged in teaching conscious evolution, the effect of all this was described as the cart the horse and the driver, that is to say, the physical man, the emotional man, and the thinking man, and that most all of humanity falls into categories based on the primacy of ones fit into 7 types based on this, with teaching that develop these capacities forming three well known methodologies, the way of the Fakir, thought the body, the way of the monk though emotion, and the way of the Yogi through the mind.

This is because beyond the cart the horse and the driver, is the self unknown to most,, referred to as the passenger, the one who knows where the other three are to go. We could say that the first three are machines and the last conscious understanding of function and form.

Each person born human with a capacity for empathy, is born whole and complete, but without any experience, in a non dualistic state. But because of the acquisition of language the unity of self is destroyed. The pain of being told one is worthless if one acts naturally as all children will, is too painful to consciously tolerate. A part of the self goes underground but some, call it a breathing tube to self love remains. Those for whom the experiences of childhood are merely traumatic and not overwhelmingly catastrophic preserve some deeply buried sense that life is good. For some there is so much hate and torture in their lives, the door is closed to any hope of love. A decision is forced to get even by making others suffer as oneself has. The capacity to empathize is preserved or lost depending on the degree of self hate. When the message is totally successful that one is evil one acts that way. One is totally convinced that one is worthless, not just carries that feeling hidden away. For most of us, it is only when certain buttons are pushed that the monster is released, the violence in the form of denial of memory that we were made to feel evil. When somebody points a finger, it threatens that within us. If we have preserved any sense of out inner goodness we do not want to feel evil. Sadly, will do evil to preserve our unconscious state.

 

[realibrad]

Moonie is a Spirit Science kind of a guy.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSpiritScience

I am a cool hard logic guy.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CoolHardLogic

 

[moonbogg]

I'd like to think we are evolving toward something good, but we are a new species and really we are our own experiment in this case, so its hard to know without the necessary experience. I do think if we last long enough that the outcome will be very good eventually.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'd like to think we are evolving toward something good, but we are a new species and really we are our own experiment in this case, so its hard to know without the necessary experience. I do think if we last long enough that the outcome will be very good eventually.

I think you believe that because you know it instinctively.

 

[norseamd]

Moonie is a Spirit Science kind of a guy.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSpiritScience

I am a cool hard logic guy.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CoolHardLogic

Due to the first video from the Cool Hard Logic youtube channel I am going to go with ad hominem and false cause and whether aware or not also black and white for the comment. Nevermind that this is exactly why hard science folk fail at soft sciences because they are not able to understand that not everything in existence acts according to the physical laws they are so attached to psychologically. Just look at the massive failure of Stephen Hawking when he decided to step out of physics or possibly more insightful tried to distort the geography of sciences by conquering nonscientific or soft scientific subjects via subjecting the data or discussions in those subjects to the field of physics much like the alcubierre drive would distort spacetime due to not being able to win against the physical limitations of the physical universe on classical transportation.

 

[raildogg]

Moonbeam,

Everything we do comes from selfishness - everything. Even acts of kindness. Therefore, words like evolution are kind of hard to talk about. Evolution in terms of science and material things? Sure, we do that greatly. Evolution in terms of being truly good people, that we are far away from and getting further away.

You mentioned thought. It is commonly believed that thought is something that will help us, save us. But I appreciate you posting that.

Thanks.

 

[Moonbeam]

raildogg; Everything we do comes from selfishness - everything. Even acts of kindness. Therefore, words like evolution are kind of hard to talk about. Evolution in terms of science and material things? Sure, we do that greatly. Evolution in terms of being truly good people, that we are far away from and getting further away.

M: First of all, of what importance is it to say that kindness is selfishness? What does that imply? Are you saying that kindness is tarnished, or that selfishness is the highest moral value, for example? I believe that you have attached some kind of emotional significance to your statement that I do not see.

If everything we do comes from selfishness then what you said was just some kind of selfishness and I'm being selfish pointing that out. This doesn't seem to go anywhere to me.

r: You mentioned thought. It is commonly believed that thought is something that will help us, save us. But I appreciate you posting that.

Thanks.

M: You are welcome. Thought is the process by which we who have never been lost imagine that we are, all of us who believe in thought. Imagine the statue of The Thinker, elbow on knee and head on fist, doubled over in thought in a chair somewhere, and compare it to the Buddha taking in the world with his hands in his lap sitting under the Bo tree. The moment to be sought is when thought stops and the heart awakens in understanding.

 

[sandorski]

Due to the first video from the Cool Hard Logic youtube channel I am going to go with ad hominem and false cause and whether aware or not also black and white for the comment. Nevermind that this is exactly why hard science folk fail at soft sciences because they are not able to understand that not everything in existence acts according to the physical laws they are so attached to psychologically. Just look at the massive failure of Stephen Hawking when he decided to step out of physics or possibly more insightful tried to distort the geography of sciences by conquering nonscientific or soft scientific subjects via subjecting the data or discussions in those subjects to the field of physics much like the alcubierre drive would distort spacetime due to not being able to win against the physical limitations of the physical universe on classical transportation.

Spirit Science has nothing to do with Science, Soft or Hard. It is complete and utter BS made to sound Sciency.

 

[norseamd]

Spirit Science has nothing to do with Science, Soft or Hard. It is complete and utter BS made to sound Sciency.

Yah ok I actually give no fucks about that youtube channel. But realibrad did seem like he was insulting Moonbeam with his comment. Moonbeam is trolling so do not draw too many conclusions from what he is writing. And furthermore Moonbeam is putting real thoughts in with his trolling for the total "something" or some other shit.

Too lazy to go look for a good word that is accurate and descriptive or some shit. Makes me think of what Wikipedia say about this guy in the introduction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

 

[realibrad]

Yah ok I actually give no fucks about that youtube channel. But realibrad did seem like he was insulting Moonbeam with his comment. Moonbeam is trolling so do not draw too many conclusions from what he is writing. And furthermore Moonbeam is putting real thoughts in with his trolling for the total "something" or some other shit.

Too lazy to go look for a good word that is accurate and descriptive or some shit. Makes me think of what Wikipedia say about this guy in the introduction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

You would not be too far off. Spirit Science is a channel that uses obfuscating language to make it seem like made up shit is somehow deep.

Due to the first video from the Cool Hard Logic youtube channel I am going to go with ad hominem and false cause and whether aware or not also black and white for the comment.

I honestly have no idea what that means. I read it many times, and I dont know what point you were trying to make.

 

[child of wonder]

In what direction is humanity evolving culturally and politically?

See my avatar.

 

[norseamd]

I honestly have no idea what that means. I read it many times, and I dont know what point you were trying to make.

Holy fucking shit. The cool hard science channel not only directly mentions these but actually uses these in their video insulting the bullshit from the spirit science channel. You sir are just dumb as all fuck and not surprising at all that you are using the cool hard science channel while not even understanding shit at all.

 

[norseamd]

You would not be too far off. Spirit Science is a channel that uses obfuscating language to make it seem like made up shit is somehow deep.

Yah creative communication is not exactly the same shit as physics and does not act according to the same physical laws of reality. Exactly why I get annoyed at the egotistical ignorant pure bullshit from so named skeptics. Looks like philosophers and soft scientists are probably not sufficient for them so it looks like they are now going to go after english professors going by your bullshit.

Edit: Thought realibrad was suggesting that I was like the spirit science channel when maybe he was responding that I was right about what he was suggesting about Moonbeam. I apologize for my hostile remarks in response to perceptions of more hostility than there might have actually existed. Same with the response to the other comment above this shit.

 

[sandorski]

Yah creative communication is not exactly the same shit as physics and does not act according to the same physical laws of reality. Exactly why I get annoyed at the egotistical ignorant pure bullshit from so named skeptics. Looks like philosophers and soft scientists are probably not sufficient for them so it looks like they are now going to go after english professors going by your bullshit.

What Spirit Science does is not Science, it is Sophistry.

 

[norseamd]

What Spirit Science does is not Science, it is Sophistry.

That was a response to realibrad concerning my lack of good command of english to describe the sarcasm from Moonbeam.

 

[Moonbeam]

What Spirit Science does is not Science, it is Sophistry.

Who the fuck gives a shit about Spirit Science or who ever heard of such a thing. This whole line of conversation is nuts. Somebody says something somebody else doesn't understand and it suddenly becomes Spirit Science. The ignorant always have to put everything in a box. When realibrad posted those videos I didn't bother to watch them. He can say something in his own words or be ignored by me. The dog may bark but the caravan moves on, as they say. moonbogg asked some questions off topic I think but which I wanted to answer.