In totality is the act of men seeing female sex workers inherently wrong?

[Sunburn74]

I was reading a couple of opinion pieces in the NY times today which had different views. One view depicted sex work as serial rape. The other depicted it as an empowering career. I left confused.

Basically the question I will pose is, in totality is the act of men seeing female sex workers inherently wrong?

By totality consider the positive or negative impact of sex work on the individuals involved in those transactions and society at large, and the positive or negative impact of criminalization of sex work on said individuals and society. Weighing all relevant factors, in your opinion in totality is the act of men seeing female sex workers inherently wrong?

 

[nakedfrog]

Why are you limiting it to "men seeing female sex workers"? Should men seeing male sex workers be regarded differently, or women seeing male sex workers, or women seeing female sex workers? And of course, non-binary people could be in either role or both.

In my view, so long as there's consent across the board and no coercion, it's perfectly acceptable.

 

[Captante]

Perfectly rational I tell you!

 

[Torn Mind]

There are varying degrees of sex work.

It is a job though. Just that the money can be better than min wage. Worker gets money(and maybe some pleasure if the client gives the right vibes). Buyer gets pleasure(and the maladjusted ones can vent or push limits)

Sex workers are not looked upon by most buyers for anything but the pleasure provide. Some folks might fall for one, then start providing more than just the transactional relationship of client and provider.

But the money is good, that's what's empowering. I don't see any customer service job where you have to put on the same smiling face for people who one may not care for if it were, say, a proper dating situation as something that is empowering; it's the money that is empowering. That's just the front to make it sound like the job is some thrill ride of sex.

 

[nakedfrog]

Perfectly rational I tell you!

The feminists I know are very sex-positive and support sex workers (not sure if you were suggesting the first example in OP was a feminist)

 

[nakedfrog]

There are varying degrees of sex work.

It is a job though. Just that the money can be better than min wage. Worker gets money(and maybe some pleasure if the client gives the right vibes). Buyer gets pleasure(and the maladjusted ones can vent or push limits)

Sex workers are not looked upon by most buyers for anything but the pleasure provide. Some folks might fall for one, then start providing more than just the transactional relationship of client and provider.

But the money is good, that's what's empowering. I don't see any customer service job where you have to put on the same smiling face for people who one may not care for if it were, say, a proper dating situation as something that is empowering; it's the money that is empowering. That's just the front to make it sound like the job is some thrill ride of sex.

What about paid dominatrixes?

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm really old fashioned and I just can't look at sex work (by whoever) as something to aspire to. I'm not judging anyone who does it but I can't accept that selling yourself in that way is a positive choice. I get that some people are in hard places and have limited choices and I understand why they make those choices.
I've had this debate with lots of people of different ages and genders and Ive heard and understand the arguments but I just have this instinctual "yuk" about it.

 

[nakedfrog]

I'm really old fashioned and I just can't look at sex work (by whoever) as something to aspire to. I'm not judging anyone who does it but I can't accept that selling yourself in that way is a positive choice. I get that some people are in hard places and have limited choices and I understand why they make those choices.
I've had this debate with lots of people of different ages and genders and Ive heard and understand the arguments but I just have this instinctual "yuk" about it.

Pretty rich coming from Mr. Devil!

 

[WelshBloke]

Pretty rich coming from Mr. Devil!

Yeah. Weirdly I'm pretty kink about stuff when it isn't a business thing!
And I get that my position has little logic behind it!

 

[soulcougher73]

I'm OK with it, especially if you legalize, regulate, and tax it. As long as all are consenting adults.

 

[Denly]

Selling is legal and ethical, fking - if consensual - is legal and ethical. Why not sex worker? I am all for more protection for them from abusive clients and I don't care what genders either side are.

 

[SaltyNuts]

Just a question: can a consenting male still have sex with a consenting female these days? Or is one or both of the male/female somehow some bad word? Thanks.

 

[pcgeek11]

Just a question: can a consenting male still have sex with a consenting female these days? Or is one or both of the male/female somehow some bad word? Thanks.

Better get it in writing and a few witness'.

 

[SaltyNuts]

Better get it in writing and a few witness'.

Yea, that is probably very good advice pcgeek11. I miss the days where a woman and man could just hook up at a club, take it home, and it was magic. Now, gotta get lawyers involved LOL....

 

[pcgeek11]

Yea, that is probably very good advice pcgeek11. I miss the days where a woman and man could just hook up at a club, take it home, and it was magic. Now, gotta get lawyers involved LOL....

Everybody is looking for a reason to be offended these days. I am glad I am not a young man having to deal with all the BS.

 

[MrSquished]

Legalize sex work. It will help protect the workers. Another benefit is yet another step away from the oppression of religion.

 

[MrSquished]

Everybody is looking for a reason to be offended these days. I am glad I am not a young man having to deal with all the BS.

It's not really that hard. I'm a single guy. I date. By the end of the year I'll be closing in on 20 first dates this year. I have casual sex. Just be respectful. No issues on that front. Actually one girl I dated briefly who I slept with is now my client. We've seen close to ten properties together and I told her what I'd list get place for. Pretty agreeable situation between the sexes.

A few girls are nuts. Guys can be pigs. Probably more pig guys than nutty girls.

You guys just read too much stupid media and buy into what they are selling.

 

[Zorba]

I think there is a very wide range of sex work, making there be a lot of grey area in the morality of using it. In general I think it should be legalized and regulated.

I've personally known a few prostitutes and a woman that cams, none of them have been happy people. Even the one that cams, she started it because she enjoyed it and got decent money, but she very quickly became resentful about it, but got the golden handcuffs.

One thing that really needs to change, though, soliciting an underage prostitute should be statutory rape, or worse, period. I don't understand why if someone has sex with their girl friend in a loving relationship with too large of an age difference that is worse than fucking a random girl and throwing some money at her.

 

[shortylickens]

I think the real problem is a substantial portion of the population looks down on sex work because of the puritanical way they were raised, not because the work itself is inherently bad for women. Of course, if they look down on women because of what they do then they're gonna make life difficult for those women, which in turn does hurt them.
As has been pointed out by many people in many different situations, American society routinely fails women.
If they werent being shit on constantly and abused by men and women, women would be in a better situation and not need porn or stripping to survive. This is a problem around the world, but many other developed nations actually treat their women properly and dont have these issues.
America would probably be a third world country if not for all the billionaires.

 

[dank69]

It's similar to drugs in that most of the negatives are a result of it being illegal. Legalize it and most of the kidnapping/trafficking/abuse goes away.