In Today's News................

[Carbo]

Senator Joe Biden, (Dem, Delaware), says the US should want no part of Bin Laden.
"Kill him. Shoot him. I mean it," Democrat Joseph Biden of Delaware, chairman of the Senate's Foreign Relations Committee, said. "I don't want to capture him ... Unless he's walking out with a white flag, saying `I surrender,' I'd shoot him."
Senator Joe rocks, hair transplant and all. I give this a two thumbs up!

United Airlines announced it will be supplying their pilots with Taser stun guns in an effort to strengthen airline security.
Good move, a no brainer. Two thumbs up.
An aside here: Mrs Carbo is a flight attendant with American Airlines, flying internationally out of Miami. For those of you contemplating less than perfect behavior, I pity the fool who does so on one of her flights. She's a 5'3", 115lb Colombian fireball with a six pack abdomen, and the willingness to show off her knowledge of how to kill a man 17 ways with a pencil. Of course, the 18th way was to marry me, but that's another thread for another day.

 

[Yzzim]

The AP has reported that Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeild said that US ground troops are indeed on the ground in Afghanistan and are helping the Northern Alliance fight the Taliban. So far there have been no American lives lost during the fighting.

 

[jjones]

<< Kill him. Shoot him. >>


no arguement there.

 

[Czar]

I´m going to be a bitch and post this to anoy some of you.

Published on Thursday, November 15, 2001 in the San Jose Mercury News
U.S. is Brutalizing Principles of Justice
Editorial

First, the Justice Department rounds up more than a thousand people and holds them without letting anybody know the charges against them, or even who is being held.
Then the State Department announces that it will slow the process for granting visas to men from Arab and Muslim countries.

But don't stop there. Why not violate the long-held principle that people in custody are entitled to private conversations with their attorneys?

And while we're at it, why not just ignore the American criminal justice system for some people and let their cases be handled in secret, by military courts?

What next? Summary executions? If people, at the sole direction of the president, are tried in secret by military courts, you might as well forget the niceties and go directly to the firing squad.

With so much going on these days -- the crash of an airliner in New York City, the fall of the Taliban in Kabul, a major new nuclear weapons agreement with Russia, and a sagging economy -- it's easy to see why the draconian measures to shortchange cherished principles of American justice aren't getting the attention they deserve.

Even were those non-terrorist events not happening, many Americans would be predisposed to grant the administration whatever it wants in the quest to track down Osama bin Laden and his network of terrorists. These are perilous times that do require extraordinary measures.

But the administration has gone too far, too fast. The president's order this week gives him the authority to order a non-citizen to undergo a trial in a military court, so long as the president has ``reason to believe'' the individual is a member of the Al-Qaida terrorist organization or has assisted Al-Qaida in its terrorist ends. Further, the order says individuals so tried have no remedy for appealing either the trial or the outcome of it.

The president and his advisers argue that this is merely an extension of the battlefield in time of war, and that on the battlefield criminal rules don't apply.

There are, however, other alternatives. As the hunt for Osama bin Laden continues, the trial of another rogue responsible for horrible atrocities against humans is taking place at the Hague under the auspices of an international court. Surely, bin Laden if found, could be handled in a similar manner.

The president has the constitutional authority to do what he's doing. He nonetheless undermines the values America seeks to defend as it battles those for whom civil rights have no meaning.

 

[Carbo]

Damn, I was just happy that pilots were getting stun guns. I wasn't looking for battling editorials. By the way, the San Jose Mercury News is full of itself.

 

[Czar]

I was directing that editorial at the first part of your post.

The second part I realy like, I also read somewhere that scientists have made a "sonic" gun that fires "sound" at the target and makes him loose his hearing and drops to the ground and stays there for a few minutes. Realy cool, Dune anyone