In the US you have bottle deposits right?

[Locut0s]

For some reason, perhaps because a US customer was confused about the price of something in our store I got the idea that perhaps in the US you didn't have bottle deposits, or maybe not everywhere? But that can't be right street people in the US collect bottles and cans like mad just the same as they do here if my memory serves me right. what is the average deposit on containers, say 591ml containers. It's 5 cents here.

 

[randomlinh]

5-10 cents i've seen.. but only in a few areas.

 

[iamwiz82]

It depends on the state. In Michigan it is 10 cents per bottle/can/mini-keg.

 

[mallik]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
It depends on the state. In Michigan it is 10 cents per bottle/can/mini-keg.

:music:Nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine bottle and cans in the trunk, nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine bottles and cans.
At ten cents a bottle and ten cents a can, we're pulling in five hundred dollars a man.:music:

 

[CPA]

That's the great thing about the US, states have rights and not all states have to do the same thing. In this case, only a few states add the bottle tax...er, I mean deposit to a can or bottle purchase.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: mallik

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
It depends on the state. In Michigan it is 10 cents per bottle/can/mini-keg.

:music:Nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine bottle and cans in the trunk, nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine bottles and cans.
At ten cents a bottle and ten cents a can, we're pulling in five hundred dollars a man.:music:

I wanna learn, I wanna know WHY.

 

[cKGunslinger]

*goes to find a mail-truck*

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
*goes to find a mail-truck*

"Newman!"

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
For some reason, perhaps because a US customer was confused about the price of something in our store I got the idea that perhaps in the US you didn't have bottle deposits, or maybe not everywhere? But that can't be right street people in the US collect bottles and cans like mad just the same as they do here if my memory serves me right. what is the average deposit on containers, say 591ml containers. It's 5 cents here.

Most states don't, but I wouldn't mind if my state adopted such a program. We wouldn't see any more cans and bottles along the sides of the road, at least judging from my experience when I lived in places that did have deposits.

 

[clamum]

Not in all states. I live in Michigan so I'm used to returning can/bottles for 10 cents. I'm working in TX and didn't even think about it, and brought some cans to Wal-Mart to return. Turns out there's no returns here.

 

[StageLeft]

NY has it and it's crap. I spent 10 minutes today organizing all my cans into bags, drove to walmart and spent a solid 10-12 minutes with my wife (so two people) feeding in cans/bottles and made a whopping $18 and had filthy hands. So we spent probably 50 minutes making less than what we make at work and burning gas, too.

I am thinking about just throwing them in my regular recylcing OR, and I am not kidding, throwing them in the trash and making sure everyone around here knows I do it because this is a PAIN IN THE ASS. I always recycle this kind of crap anyway. Making me return cans/bottles for a nickel to force me to do it just makes me want to throw them in the trash out of spite. This is a completely retarded way of encouraging recycling. I think a place around here actually goes by weight instead of a badly-designed feeding machine and I will use it if I can find it

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
For some reason, perhaps because a US customer was confused about the price of something in our store I got the idea that perhaps in the US you didn't have bottle deposits, or maybe not everywhere? But that can't be right street people in the US collect bottles and cans like mad just the same as they do here if my memory serves me right. what is the average deposit on containers, say 591ml containers. It's 5 cents here.

Why would someone be confused about the price of something in your store?

Were you charging something different at check out than what was posted as the price of an item?

Because other than that - I can't think of how there would be any confusion.

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
This is a completely retarded way of encouraging recycling. I think a place around here actually goes by weight instead of a badly-designed feeding machine and I will use it if I can find it

that would work as long as you're okay not getting enough back to cover the gas you used up while driving there
when i lived in arizona they didn't have a deposit (and probably still don't) and it would take a crapload of cans to even get a few dollars from the recycler

 

[AZGamer]

Of course we don't have it in AZ. It's a complete waste of money.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
NY has it and it's crap. I spent 10 minutes today organizing all my cans into bags, drove to walmart and spent a solid 10-12 minutes with my wife (so two people) feeding in cans/bottles and made a whopping $18 and had filthy hands. So we spent probably 50 minutes making less than what we make at work and burning gas, too.

I am thinking about just throwing them in my regular recylcing OR, and I am not kidding, throwing them in the trash and making sure everyone around here knows I do it because this is a PAIN IN THE ASS. I always recycle this kind of crap anyway. Making me return cans/bottles for a nickel to force me to do it just makes me want to throw them in the trash out of spite. This is a completely retarded way of encouraging recycling. I think a place around here actually goes by weight instead of a badly-designed feeding machine and I will use it if I can find it

1.) count up bottles/cans at home
2.) goto some local liquor/convenience store
3.) Tell then how many bottles/cans you have
.................................Profit!!! and you dont have to spend an hour standing in meijer or walmart.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: Locut0s
For some reason, perhaps because a US customer was confused about the price of something in our store I got the idea that perhaps in the US you didn't have bottle deposits, or maybe not everywhere? But that can't be right street people in the US collect bottles and cans like mad just the same as they do here if my memory serves me right. what is the average deposit on containers, say 591ml containers. It's 5 cents here.

Why would someone be confused about the price of something in your store?

Were you charging something different at check out than what was posted as the price of an item?

Because other than that - I can't think of how there would be any confusion.

Umm yeah that's the law here. Tax (GST + PST) + any deposits and environmental fees can't legally be posted in the price of an item. See a $10.00 sticker price? You will probably be paying 11.30 at the till, exact figure depends on the item and the province.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
NY has it and it's crap. I spent 10 minutes today organizing all my cans into bags, drove to walmart and spent a solid 10-12 minutes with my wife (so two people) feeding in cans/bottles and made a whopping $18 and had filthy hands. So we spent probably 50 minutes making less than what we make at work and burning gas, too.

I am thinking about just throwing them in my regular recylcing OR, and I am not kidding, throwing them in the trash and making sure everyone around here knows I do it because this is a PAIN IN THE ASS. I always recycle this kind of crap anyway. Making me return cans/bottles for a nickel to force me to do it just makes me want to throw them in the trash out of spite. This is a completely retarded way of encouraging recycling. I think a place around here actually goes by weight instead of a badly-designed feeding machine and I will use it if I can find it

That's why god made homeless people! Seriously you should see the MOUNTAINS of cans these guys cart around with them!!

 

[Sphexi]

Welcome to Canada. They charge "deposit" fees on next to everything, essentially forcing you to spend lots of time trying to remember what can, and cannot be returned. I let my wife deal with it, I wash out the container and leave it on the counter. I think there's a few bags in the car worth of cans and containers right now.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: Locut0s
For some reason, perhaps because a US customer was confused about the price of something in our store I got the idea that perhaps in the US you didn't have bottle deposits, or maybe not everywhere? But that can't be right street people in the US collect bottles and cans like mad just the same as they do here if my memory serves me right. what is the average deposit on containers, say 591ml containers. It's 5 cents here.

Why would someone be confused about the price of something in your store?

Were you charging something different at check out than what was posted as the price of an item?

Because other than that - I can't think of how there would be any confusion.

Umm yeah that's the law here. Tax (GST + PST) + any deposits and environmental fees can't legally be posted in the price of an item. See a $10.00 sticker price? You will probably be paying 11.30 at the till, exact figure depends on the item and the province.

We don't post sales tax here, however the fee for bottles and stuff is usually included in the price, or it will say something like $10.00 + CRV (In California at least)

 

[Colt45]

Alberta used to not have deposit, but i think they do now. Some provinces deposit is only on beer bottles, iirc.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
NY has it and it's crap. I spent 10 minutes today organizing all my cans into bags, drove to walmart and spent a solid 10-12 minutes with my wife (so two people) feeding in cans/bottles and made a whopping $18 and had filthy hands. So we spent probably 50 minutes making less than what we make at work and burning gas, too.

I am thinking about just throwing them in my regular recylcing OR, and I am not kidding, throwing them in the trash and making sure everyone around here knows I do it because this is a PAIN IN THE ASS. I always recycle this kind of crap anyway. Making me return cans/bottles for a nickel to force me to do it just makes me want to throw them in the trash out of spite. This is a completely retarded way of encouraging recycling. I think a place around here actually goes by weight instead of a badly-designed feeding machine and I will use it if I can find it

Keep in mind that the original purpose of bottle bills (particularly the Oregon bill, the first) wasn't so much to encourage recycling of cans directly, it was an anti-litter measure. Cans and other containers used to be a rather large percentage of roadside litter, making them worth something (however trivial it was) made people stop throwing containers out as litter because they now had value. The fact that it encourages recycling is a very nice aside that's become more important as recycling has become more important, but it wasn't as much of an issue at the time.

There's a slightly messy Wikipedia article on Oregon's bill that explains the point further. It's been rather effective in Oregon.

 

[BrownTown]

Tennesse was voting on a "bottle bill" like you are talking about last month, not sure if it passed or not. Either way, the cost of gas driving down to turn them in is gonna be more then they are every worth unless you collect them by the hundreds. And in that case maybe you should lay off the beer and/or sugary beverages .

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
Tennesse was voting on a "bottle bill" like you are talking about last month, not sure if it passed or not. Either way, the cost of gas driving down to turn them in is gonna be more then they are every worth unless you collect them by the hundreds. And in that case maybe you should lay off the beer and/or sugary beverages .

Right because you wouldn't have gone to the store anyways ever again after the first time you purchased cans.

 

[Squisher]

The change in the way the expressways look now as opposed to before the deposit laws were enacted make it worth the effort.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Squisher
The change in the way the expressways look now as opposed to before the deposit laws were enacted make it worth the effort.

QFT from someone who remembers their state from before the bottle bill went into effect!