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hop1hop2

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What AGP video card should I get with a spending limit of $200 (maybe a little more if its well worth it I need new memory too) a 6600GT (if so 128 or 256mb), 6800 vanilla, 6800LE, or any thing else thats comparable?

I will be playing "Battlefield 2", "Call of Duty: United Offensive", "Half Life 2" (steam games [hopefully]), "Age of Empires 3", and "Rome: Total War".

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3.0ghz Prescott
1gb (2x512)
120+60gb 7200rpm HDs
Asus P4P800S (848 chipset)
BFG 5900XT (flashed to 5950)
 
2Xtreme21

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What's wrong with your 5950? Thought that was actually supposed to be a GOOD card in the FX series.
 
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hop1hop2

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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
What's wrong with your 5950? Thought that was actually supposed to be a GOOD card in the FX series.
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Its gettin old and I run games at med quality and 1280x1024 and wanna run them at 1600x1200 high quality,
 
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Cheesetogo

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A 6800 is hardly any better than the 5950, so if you want tor un 1600x1200 with high settings, you need at least an 6800gt, which can be had for around 300 dollars. The 6800 will not be much different from the 5950, and will not be enough.
 
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xtknight

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(For me, all these scores are without an overclock.)

The 6800 should be good. The PCI-E version is a slightly lower clocked version, which I have. I can play at 1280x1024 ALL HIGH in Battlefield 2 with 60 FPS or so. That means the AGP version should be a little faster. 4xAA slows down BF2 to ~35 FPS. With HL2 I get even more than 60 FPS, easily, without AA. With 4xAA, it's about 60 FPS. If you get lucky, you can unlock the 6800NU AGP to get 16 pixel pipelines and 6 vertex pipelines. That along with overclocking would definitely allow you to play 1600x1200 smoothly. Or even just overclocking..., maybe even without any of it, you'll just have to try it.

Call of Duty: United Offensive should be a breeze on any of the current generation cards. It still uses the Quake 3 engine (OpenGL-based). The 6600GT/6800 are very fast at OpenGL.

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
A 6800 is hardly any better than the 5950, so if you want tor un 1600x1200 with high settings, you need at least an 6800gt, which can be had for around 300 dollars. The 6800 will not be much different from the 5950, and will not be enough.
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Huh? Even the 6600GT puts the FX5950 to shame, especially in shader performance. Look right here, at 1600x1200. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce6600g-games_11.html

A 6800 slightly surpasses a 6600GT, though with lower clocks, it has 12 pipelines and a wider memory bus. It's worth noting it's an excellent overclocker as well. Looks like you are a modder, so you should have some fun with the 6800.

You could wait five days when G70 comes out, and see how 6800GT prices fare. Also, I don't think you need any more than 1 GB of memory. With that extra money for RAM, get a 6800GT instead. All my games, Wolfenstein: ET, Half-Life 2, Battlefield 2 Demo play admirably with 1 GB of memory.
 
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hop1hop2

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Originally posted by: xtknight. Also, I don't think you need any more than 1 GB of memory. With that extra money for RAM, get a 6800GT instead. All my games, Wolfenstein: ET, Half-Life 2, Battlefield 2 Demo play admirably with 1 GB of memory.
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No I need to replace my RAM the bug up my system. Every time I press the power botton exactly a second later a click the reset button and thats the only way it will turn on. Otherwise it freezes.
 
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richardrds

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6800NU should work fine, and on the AGP versions you can use Riva Tuner to unlock the Extra 4 pipelines and 6th vertex shader and turn it into a 16p/6v card, instead of 12p/5v card, which gets it closer to 6800gt performance.

My softmoded (16p/6v) BFG 6800oc with a modest 375/750 overclock scores 4555 in 3DMark05, stock 6800GT's score around 4800-5000.
 
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Another vote for a 6800, i'm tempted to buy one myself, i'm looking at either the leadtek or the evga. The evga is about $194 @ newegg now, which is a great deal in my book :) Only reason I say 6800 over the 6600GT is because of the soft-mod that can unlock the 4 dormant pipes on the 6800, giving it a chance to have 16 functional pipes, as opposed to the 6600GT's 8.
 
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fibes

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The 6800 should be more than enough to play those games. If you don't mind refurbished, here is an alternative REFURB
 
bamacre

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I also suggest you wait. Is the 6800 faster than your 5950? Yes, but, IMO, not enough to make up for the money. The 6800 won't give you what you're looking for. I suggest you wait 2 to 3 months, and save some more money. Prices will fall a bit, too, they've just now started to do so.
 
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hans007

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6600gt is probably about as fast as a 5950.... but... i think if you really relaly want to upgrade a 6800 non pro for $159 or whatever it was at newegg would be ok. then you could try to unlock.
 
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JBT

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PNY 6800 for $156 Absolutely get this. Should be pipe moddable to get very close to 6800GT performance and even if it can't its still a hell of a deal.

Also not sure who said a 5950 is close to a 6800 but that is BS. A 6800 SMOKES a 5950...
 
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