In some cases abortion should be mandatory

[Onceler]

I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

 

[StageLeft]

I can't really condone state-forced abortions, seems a hard line to cross.

If, however, it's possible to inject girls with some kind of auto-infertility drug that can only be reversed when they're 21 and meet various criteria, we could in one generation do away with all the poories and lowers, as only the optimal are allowed at that point to breed. I suppose it's similar to what you're saying but without any distasteful aspects.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

WHAT?!?!?

 

[Craig234]

Huh? While abortion is the one issue I stay away from here, I think one thing both sides mostly agree on is that their position applies whethere the child is from rape, or not.

Certainly, the pro-choice people virtually universally believe that - and the principled pro-life people would need to answer, 'why should an innocent child pay for his father's crime?'

There is an emotional argument, though, that says that because the mother suffers more burdens in this case, that it 'just seems cruel' to enforce the pro-life principles.

 

[Possessed Freak]

I see no reason why it shouldn't remain the woman's choice. If for whatever reason she wants it, why take it from her?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

I happen to know that your great great grandmother was raped by my great great uncle and the criminality of your thinking is going to make it hard for me to disagree with what you say.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

Yes, why let the mother have any choice in it?

The Doctor who performs the operation should be from the Future Crimes Division, just to make it all morally justiable.

:thumbsup:

 

[Jeffg010]

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

wow this has to be worst post of the year. You have data to back this crap up? I'll be waiting.


Jeff

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

we are all violent apes. Get over it.

 

[cultgag]

no

 

[nageov3t]

obvious troll thread is obvious?

 

[shiner]

You dropped the soap in the shower didn't you?

 

[RKDaley]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

WHAT?!?!?

That was my reaction as well.
:disgust:

 

[Genx87]

It is alive, the Eugencis beast is ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dawp]

That's assuming nuture (i.e. parenting and such) had nothing to do with the rapist being a rapist and it's all nature.

I don't think it all in the genes and it should be up to the rapee if she want's to keep the kid. I would think most wouldn't.

 

[DealMonkey]

Forcing a woman to have an abortion is just as bad as refusing to allow her to have one if she so chooses.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I can't really condone state-forced abortions, seems a hard line to cross.

If, however, it's possible to inject girls with some kind of auto-infertility drug that can only be reversed when they're 21 and meet various criteria, we could in one generation do away with all the poories and lowers, as only the optimal are allowed at that point to breed. I suppose it's similar to what you're saying but without any distasteful aspects.

Without any distasteful aspects?! That's essentially eugenics... in fact that is eugenics... and if I'm not mistaken any kind of forced sterilization is considered a crime against humanity under international law...

 

[fleshconsumed]

It should be up to the woman. I would assume most would choose abortion, but if for some reason she wants to have a child, let her.

 

[alchemize]

I support mandatory post-birth abortions for P&N trolls.

 

[soccerballtux]

Excuse me? You think I should have been aborted? My very loving mother chose to keep me and I'm glad she did. I take great offense at your assertion, I really do, and would appreciate it if you would stop, for the sake of others like me.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I can't really condone state-forced abortions, seems a hard line to cross.

If, however, it's possible to inject girls with some kind of auto-infertility drug that can only be reversed when they're 21 and meet various criteria, we could in one generation do away with all the poories and lowers, as only the optimal are allowed at that point to breed. I suppose it's similar to what you're saying but without any distasteful aspects.

Problem is we wouldn't have anyone to do the grunt work.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I can't really condone state-forced abortions, seems a hard line to cross.

If, however, it's possible to inject girls with some kind of auto-infertility drug that can only be reversed when they're 21 and meet various criteria, we could in one generation do away with all the poories and lowers, as only the optimal are allowed at that point to breed. I suppose it's similar to what you're saying but without any distasteful aspects.

Without any distasteful aspects?! That's essentially eugenics... in fact that is eugenics... and if I'm not mistaken any kind of forced sterilization is considered a crime against humanity under international law...

Well, yeah, it's distasteful if you call it eugenics and morally abhorrent. That's why it needs a name like the "Citizen Quality Reinforcement Initiative".

Problem is we wouldn't have anyone to do the grunt work.

Sure we would. If it's government run, there would be slips through the cracks. Those kids who slip through and shouldn't have can still do the grunt work. Since there will be less of them they'll have to work probably 110 hours/week, though.

 

[JACKDRUID]

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

I believe most behaviors were "learned" through a person's childhood.

some genes may be more vulnerable to peer-pressure, violence, psychological trauma... but those are rare... babies were basically born "empty" with a few instincts...

its the mother's choice

 

[jonks]

Replying to Topic: In some cases abortion should be mandatory

Looks like OP missed the obvious conclusion

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Onceler
I think that to let violent criminal's embryos to survive just invites more crime

Suicide is your only opntion, think of it as late abortion.

The CHOICE is what matters and it's always the womans choice, those who don't get that should be aborted even if they are born.