In sink hot water dispenser H-770

vanionBB

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I have been looking for these for a while and this is the cheapest I have found it so far, if you can find cheaper be my guest, I think this is a hot deal tho :p

 

mikeford

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This is an item you can really get spoiled with. I had one in last house, but have no space in current sink.
 

arcas

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So these are basically a 1/2 gallon electric water heaters that sits under the sink? For some reason I was thinking they heated water on the fly.

 

Morpheux

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With my RO system already under the sink, I don't have room for this. But it's something to keep in mind when I redo my countertops and replace the sink.
 

labgeek

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Originally posted by: vfrjim
? 115 volts, 750 watts, 65 amps

damm, at 65 amps this thing will cost you a fortune to run, hopefully it is a typo :)

Not to mention how much it's going to cost to get an electrican out there to install a dedicated 100A panel just for this device... Definitely a typo. This is 750W. That's 1/2 a hair dryer which plugs into a standard 15A outlet.


There's a missing decimel point... 750 / 115 = 6.5x
 

SMOGZINN

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Originally posted by: arcas
So these are basically a 1/2 gallon electric water heaters that sits under the sink? For some reason I was thinking they heated water on the fly.

There are some that do, but they are more expensive. I still think that if you worked out the difference in cost between using this and a standard tanked water heater, you would find that an instant tankless water heater is worth the cost.
The one the OP pointed out is great for certain applications, like a shaving sink or kitchen instant hot water. At 200F it would be handy in a kitchen.
 

labgeek

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This is for a sink. Entirely different application than the tankless you're talking about. These provide instant hot water at the one point. Tankless provide hot water for the whole-house just like a regular water heater. And the water in the pipes will still be cold, just like a regular water heater. So you'd still have to run the water to get hot. This you turn it on and it's hot. Because it's right there at the sink.

 

SMOGZINN

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Originally posted by: labgeek
This is for a sink. Entirely different application than the tankless you're talking about. These provide instant hot water at the one point. Tankless provide hot water for the whole-house just like a regular water heater. And the water in the pipes will still be cold, just like a regular water heater. So you'd still have to run the water to get hot. This you turn it on and it's hot. Because it's right there at the sink.

Yes, and it only gives you 60 cup, or about 4 gallons of water. If you scroll down on my link you will see the Micro Tankless Electric Water Heaters which is a point of use water heater that can give a constant flow of 120F degree water, but costs about $300US per unit, and is worth every penny.
 

timswim78

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I had one of these in my old kitchen, but did not put one into my newly remodeled kitchen. They may be good for some people, but not for me. Here is why:
- Reliability. I had to replace the unit three times in 10 years.
- Capacity. The units did not hold enough water to fill a pasta pot. (My original intention was to be able to use this to get water to boil much faster.)
- Space. My under-sink space is somewhat limited, and the combination of this and the garbage disposal left very little room for other things. I decided to have only one in my new kitchen and chose the garbage disposal.
- Use / Benefit. I really did not use this item that much because it did not have the capacity that I needed. So, I was paying to heatwater that I very rarely used.

I would recommend an instant heater over these tank models.
 

labgeek

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Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Yes, and it only gives you 60 cup, or about 4 gallons of water. If you scroll down on my link you will see the Micro Tankless Electric Water Heaters which is a point of use water heater that can give a constant flow of 120F degree water, but costs about $300US per unit, and is worth every penny.

water heater (even tankless @ point of use) <> instant hot dispenser.
Different applications... Instant hot deliver "near boiling" water. Around 200F not 120F.


But please keep telling people that the $300 water heaters are what they need. Helps my Employee Stock Purchase Plan out every time you do... I thank you from the bottom of my wallet...

 

vfrjim

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But please keep telling people that the $300 water heaters are what they need. Helps my Employee Stock Purchase Plan out every time you do... I thank you from the bottom of my wallet...

Mine too...
 

mikeford

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They make units like this in ALL sizes, at some point you switch from consumer units like this one to the Bunn commercial units. Filling a pot so it boils faster isn't an application I have heard any demand for, thats why they make 24k btu burners. Cup o tea, soup, ramen, hot chocolate, rinse a good knife (hot hot water really gets knife clean and sanitary fast, and it dries completely without time in a drain rack etc). When they say 40 cups they don't mention that is over some period of time, 1/2 gal in the tank, and it fills from the bottom and comes out the top so you do pretty much get the full 1/2 gal at close to 200 degrees, but 750 watts takes about 5 min to get back up to 200 from room temperature.

For instant normal water heater hot water they make little thermal switched pumps that go to the most distant faucet and pump water from the hot to the cold line until some preset temperature is reached. Running one of these off a timer isn't too expensive.
 

Apex

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I keep hearing how great these things are, so I finally picked one up. It's getting installed next week. :)

$63.75 is an incredible price for the H770 though. It normally runs $160-185 or so.
 

timswim78

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Originally posted by: mikeford
Filling a pot so it boils faster isn't an application I have heard any demand for, thats why they make 24k btu burners.

Unfortunately, that's why I bought it. Straight from the marketing department of Insinkerator, "Near-boiling water at your fingertips -- perfect for making gravy, melting chocolate or quickly preparing pasta."

http://www.insinkerator.com/isejsp/product/product.jsp?id=25&template=hwd
 

Delbert

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To each his own I guess, but we couldn?t live without one. Yes I?ve had to replace ours a couple times in the last ten years but that?s because of the scale build-up from our hard water. I know the coffee coinsures will gag but I can get my cup of instant coffee before dashing off to work in like 20 seconds. That includes stiring in some creamer. Filling a pot before cooking say pasta is much faster when it?s preheated to 180º+ first. I?m ordering one for when the current one we have dies. Thanks OP.
 

timswim78

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Originally posted by: Delbert
To each his own I guess, but we couldn?t live without one. Yes I?ve had to replace ours a couple times in the last ten years but that?s because of the scale build-up from our hard water. I know the coffee coinsures will gag but I can get my cup of instant coffee before dashing off to work in like 20 seconds. That includes stiring in some creamer. Filling a pot before cooking say pasta is much faster when it?s preheated to 180º+ first. I?m ordering one for when the current one we have dies. Thanks OP.

Yep, these things are nice for instant drinks and meals, like coffee, tea, oatmeal, and etc.
 

vanionBB

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Originally posted by: Delbert
To each his own I guess, but we couldn?t live without one. Yes I?ve had to replace ours a couple times in the last ten years but that?s because of the scale build-up from our hard water. I know the coffee coinsures will gag but I can get my cup of instant coffee before dashing off to work in like 20 seconds. That includes stiring in some creamer. Filling a pot before cooking say pasta is much faster when it?s preheated to 180º+ first. I?m ordering one for when the current one we have dies. Thanks OP.


Delbert,

Try putting an inexpensive water filter inline before the Water Dispenser. You can find these at Walmart for next to nothing. I like the Omnifilters as they are universal, and any manufacturer can make filters for them (non proprietary design). Pur, Omnifilter, and Britta all make filters for the device. This encourages competition and innovative design.

As for hard water, You could get a water softener.

Here is how mine is designed:


(Cold In)=====(Filter)===+----(Sink Cold Out)
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..............................................+----(Hot Water Dispenser)----(Sink Mounted Spigot)

Hope this helps, the periods are for spacing purposes.
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: timswim78

Yep, these things are nice for instant drinks and meals, like coffee, tea, oatmeal, and etc.

why about an electric hot water dispenser for like 30$ @the egg for those purposes?

 

Delbert

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Originally posted by: vanionBB
Delbert,
Try putting an inexpensive water filter inline before the Water Dispenser. You can find these at Walmart for next to nothing. I like the Omnifilters as they are universal, and any manufacturer can make filters for them (non proprietary design). Pur, Omnifilter, and Britta all make filters for the device. This encourages competition and innovative design.

As for hard water, You could get a water softener.

Here is how mine is designed:


(Cold In)=====(Filter)===+----(Sink Cold Out)
..............................................|
..............................................+----(Hot Water Dispenser)----(Sink Mounted Spigot)

Hope this helps, the periods are for spacing purposes.
We have a water softener. It goes to everything indoors except the kitchen cold water. I think most homes send un-conditioned water to the kitchen for drinking purposes.

 

Hork

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Oh no! I received my package today and only got the gold spout, not the hot water heater itself!

I've written to their customer care to protest, as the description clearly states the specs for the water heater itself, not just the spout!