In shift, feds target top execs for health fraud

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WASHINGTON (AP) — It's getting personal now. In a shift still evolving, federal enforcers are targeting individual executives in health care fraud cases that used to be aimed at impersonal corporations.

The new tactic is raising the anxiety level — and risks — for corporate honchos at drug companies, medical device manufacturers, nursing home chains and other major health care enterprises that deal with Medicare and Medicaid.

Previously, if a company got caught, its lawyers in many cases would be able to negotiate a financial settlement. The company would write the government a check for a number followed by lots of zeroes and promise not to break the rules again. Often the cost would just get passed on to customers.

Now, on top of fines paid by a company, senior executives can face criminal charges even if they weren't involved in the scheme but could have stopped it had they known. Furthermore, they can also be banned from doing business with government health programs, a career-ending consequence.

Many in industry see the more aggressive strategy as government overkill, meting out radical punishment to individuals whose guilt prosecutors would be hard pressed to prove to a jury.

The feds say they got frustrated with repeat violations and decided to start using enforcement tools that were already on the books but had been allowed to languish. By some estimates, health care fraud costs taxpayers $60 billion a year, galling when Medicare faces insolvency.

"When you look at the history of health care enforcement, we've seen a number of Fortune 500 companies that have been caught not once, not twice, but sometimes three times violating the trust of the American people, submitting false claims, paying kickbacks to doctors, marketing drugs which have not been tested for safety and efficacy," said Lewis Morris, chief counsel for the inspector general of the Health and Human Services Department.

"To our way of thinking, the men and women in the corporate suite aren't getting it," Morris continued. "If writing a check for $200 million isn't enough to have a company change its ways, then maybe we have got to have the individuals who are responsible for this held accountable. The behavior of a company starts at the top."

Lawyers who represent drug companies say the change has definitely caused a stir, but the end result is far from certain.

"People are alarmed," said Brien O'Connor, a partner in the Boston office of Ropes & Gray. "They want to know what facts and circumstances would cause the Justice Department to indict someone who hadn't even known about the misconduct. They are doing all they can to achieve compliance."

Others say high-powered corporate targets won't go meekly.

"If the government does continue to press its campaign against individuals, we will see the limits of the government's theories tested," said Paul Kalb, who heads the health care group at the law firm of Sidley Austin in Washington. "In my mind, there is a very important open question as to whether individuals can be held criminally culpable or lose their jobs simply by virtue of their status."

Although the Obama administration has increased scrutiny of corporate America generally, this shift in health care enforcement seems to have come up from the ranks, government and corporate attorneys say.

Investigators and lawyers at the HHS inspector general's office, the Justice Department and the Food and Drug Administration started moving more or less independently toward holding executives accountable. Morris outlined the inspector general's position in congressional testimony this spring, saying his office will use its power judiciously.

A test case is playing out with an 83-year-old drug company chief executive, Howard Solomon of New York City-based Forest Laboratories. Forest makes antidepressants, blood pressure drugs and other medications. Last month, the inspector general's office notified Forest that Solomon could potentially be banned from doing business with federal programs.

The power to ban or "exclude" an individual rests with the inspector general. It's routinely applied to low-level violators, but rarely to people of Solomon's rank. In the industry, they call it the "death penalty."

Last year, a Forest subsidiary pleaded guilty to criminal charges as part of a settlement with the Justice Department in which the company also agreed to pay $313 million to resolve long-running investigations. Prosecutors charged that Forest deliberately ignored an FDA warning to stop distributing an unapproved thyroid drug, promoted the use of an antidepressant in treating children although it was only approved for adults and misled FDA inspectors making a quality check at a manufacturing plant.

The company said it had considered the case closed. But then came the inspector general's letter.

"No one has ever alleged that Mr. Solomon has done anything wrong and excluding him would be completely unjustified," Herschel Weinstein, Forest's general counsel, said in a statement. "In prior cases where a senior executive has been excluded, that individual has been accused of wrongdoing and ultimately has either been convicted of or (pleaded) guilty to a crime."

Forest is fighting the move to ban Solomon. The inspector general's office refused to comment on the case, and no final decision has been made. In congressional testimony, Morris said that when there is evidence an executive knew or should have known about misconduct, the inspector general "will operate with a presumption in favor of exclusion of that executive."

Separate from the inspector general's power to ban, the FDA has resurrected something called the "Park Doctrine," which makes it easier for prosecutors to bring criminal charges against an executive.

The doctrine, stemming from a 1970s Supreme Court case, allows the government to charge corporate officers in the chain of command with a criminal misdemeanor. They could face up to a year in prison and fines if they had the authority and responsibility to prevent, detect or resolve misconduct affecting the public welfare but failed to do so.

It's making an entire industry nervous.

It's. About. Damn. Time.
 

wuliheron

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It's. About. Damn. Time.

No shit! In retrospect it makes sense the government would wait this long and only begin to hold people accountable when their money was involved. With any luck it will set a new precedent for holding corporate assholes accountable no matter what the business. All this crap about corporations having all the rights and none of the responsibilities of individuals has got to stop.
 

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No shit! In retrospect it makes sense the government would wait this long and only begin to hold people accountable when their money was involved. With any luck it will set a new precedent for holding corporate assholes accountable no matter what the business. All this crap about corporations having all the rights and none of the responsibilities of individuals has got to stop.

"All this crap about corporations having all the rights and none of the responsibilities of individuals has got to stop."

^^This especially.
 

spidey07

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The obama administration simply will not rest, make no mistake, until they've destroyed all business in America. Or at least created a very hostile environment.
 

fskimospy

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It truly takes someone as deranged as spidey to see the attempt to hold people accountable for fraud as an attempt to 'destroy business' or 'create a hostile environment'. I hope they DO create a 'hostile environment' for fraud.
 

irishScott

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The obama administration simply will not rest, make no mistake, until they've destroyed all business in America. Or at least created a very hostile environment.

So you'd rather us be like China, where to pass a health inspection for your business you throw the health inspector a nice dinner?

Seriously Spidey, you're not this stupid. I fail to see how holding repeat offenders personally accountable is a bad thing.
 

spidey07

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It truly takes someone as deranged as spidey to see the attempt to hold people accountable for fraud as an attempt to 'destroy business' or 'create a hostile environment'. I hope they DO create a 'hostile environment' for fraud.

So you support this witch hunt then by the obama administration to create fear in doing business in America? Guess you didn't read the article nor do you understand what obama really is and how he thinks?

"People are alarmed," said Brien O'Connor, a partner in the Boston office of Ropes & Gray. "They want to know what facts and circumstances would cause the Justice Department to indict someone who hadn't even known about the misconduct. They are doing all they can to achieve compliance."
 

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The obama administration simply will not rest, make no mistake, until they've destroyed all business in America. Or at least created a very hostile environment.

These businesses are committing fraud. Repeatedly. And it's only the customers that get screwed as a result. Of course the Obama admin, or any admin, should be hostile to them.
 

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So you'd rather us be like China, where to pass a health inspection for your business you throw the health inspector a nice dinner?

Seriously Spidey, you're not this stupid. I fail to see how holding repeat offenders personally accountable is a bad thing.

It's a witch hunt by this administration to willfully destroy the healthcare industry. Remember, you must create chaos and panic so that people will eventually cave to your radical ideas as the only option (Alinsky rules for radicals).

Think it through, think about what Obama is and what he believes then everything he does becomes stunningly crystal clear. Why did this administration have to hunt long and hard to resurrect something? It's a witch hunt.

Separate from the inspector general's power to ban, the FDA has resurrected something called the "Park Doctrine," which makes it easier for prosecutors to bring criminal charges against an executive.
 

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So you support this witch hunt then by the obama administration to create fear in doing business in America? Guess you didn't read the article nor do you understand what obama really is and how he thinks?

Yes I did read the article, and I am very comfortable with holding executives accountable for the behavior of their companies. I also understand how you think, in that you're insane.

You're all for personal accountability unless it happens to be for fraud against the United States of America, at which point holding leadership accountable is just 'creating fear'. For you, it's just a question of 'did Obama do it?' If the answer is yes, you have to be against it.
 

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It's a witch hunt by this administration to willfully destroy the healthcare industry. Remember, you must create chaos and panic so that people will eventually cave to your radical ideas as the only option (Alinsky rules for radicals).

Think it through, think about what Obama is and what he believes then everything he does becomes stunningly crystal clear. Why did this administration have to hunt long and hard to resurrect something? It's a witch hunt.

We the People are tired of your hypocrisy, you mealy mouthed worm.
 

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So basically they are targeting individual ceo's and holding them accountable over misconduct of which they were not privy too and they are not even informing them of what exactly has made them culpable in said misconduct. Of course doing so would completely slow the pace of innovation in the industry. It is also likely this action would push up the cost significantly of new(and existing) medicines and medical devices since these corporation would have to factor in this new threat of the Fed being extremely litigious(lawsuits cost $$$$$$$$) and going after their heads of operation. So the ultimate effect of these actions getting out of hand would be that the Feds would be able to push their agenda onto pharmaceuticals/medical device manufacturers and push the specific agenda of the white house when it comes to the debate on health insurance.
 
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fskimospy

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So basically they are targeting individual ceo's and holding them accountable over misconduct of which they were not privy too and they are not even informing them of what exactly has made them culpable in said misconduct.

So the ultimate effect of these actions getting out of hand would be that the Feds would be able to push their agenda onto pharmaceuticals/medical device manufacturers. Of course doing so would completely slow the pace of innovation in the industry and it is likely push up the cost significantly of new(and existing) medicines and medical devices since these corporation would have to factor in this new threat of the Fed being extremely litigious(lawsuit cost $$$$$$$$) and going after their heads of operation.

No, they want to hold them accountable for misconduct that they were either privy to, or should reasonably have been privy to as responsible managers. The government is saying that if an individual presides over a company that repeatedly defrauds the federal government, they will no longer do business with that person.

How is a controversial idea? If you ran a business and you realized the guy on the other end of a deal was some guy who was part of a group which screwed you over a few years back, would you deal with him again, even if you weren't 100% sure that he was in on it?
 

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The obama administration simply will not rest, make no mistake, until they've destroyed all business in America. Or at least created a very hostile environment.
Don't worry spidey, this isn't Obama's idea so you can support it:
Although the Obama administration has increased scrutiny of corporate America generally, this shift in health care enforcement seems to have come up from the ranks, government and corporate attorneys say.
 

fskimospy

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Truly, the only way to keep business confidence in America is to continue to deal with people who repeatedly defraud you.

I love how the same people who complain about Medicare fraud flip out when the government takes common sense steps like not dealing with people who run companies that repeatedly commit Medicare fraud.
 

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If you are CEO, you should be privy to your company doing fraud, and if you aren't, you should set up internal controls so that you become privy and do something about it. If you tell your executives, meet the numbers, I don't want to know how you do it, and then they commit fraud to do it, you should be held responsible.
 

senseamp

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The obama administration simply will not rest, make no mistake, until they've destroyed all business in America. Or at least created a very hostile environment.

Fraud = business. GOP thinking in a nutshell.
 

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No, they want to hold them accountable for misconduct that they were either privy to, or should reasonably have been privy to as responsible managers. The government is saying that if an individual presides over a company that repeatedly defrauds the federal government, they will no longer do business with that person.

How is a controversial idea? If you ran a business and you realized the guy on the other end of a deal was some guy who was part of a group which screwed you over a few years back, would you deal with him again, even if you weren't 100% sure that he was in on it?

So basically you're just gonna parrot off the line given by the feds without any evidence needed. Gotcha.
 

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Truly, the only way to keep business confidence in America is to continue to deal with people who repeatedly defraud you.

I love how the same people who complain about Medicare fraud flip out when the government takes common sense steps like not dealing with people who run companies that repeatedly commit Medicare fraud.

I actually agree with this. There is no reason why fraud should be tolerated. However, the burden of proof should be just as high as any other criminal proceeding.

This is not an ideological/partisan issue the way I see it.
 

fskimospy

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So basically you're just gonna parrot off the line given by the feds without any evidence needed. Gotcha.

Parrot off what line? It's a new policy going forward and a single guy has been notified that he MIGHT be banned, depending on how an investigation turns out. If it's implemented badly and they are banning people for no good reason then of course you re-evaluate how things are going. I love how 'the government shouldn't do business with people who run companies that have a history of repeated fraud' is some controversial idea.

You flipped out over what should be a complete common sense action by the government. What you SHOULD be angry about is how long it took them to do this.
 

fskimospy

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I actually agree with this. There is no reason why fraud should be tolerated. However, the burden of proof should be just as high as any other criminal proceeding.

This is not an ideological/partisan issue the way I see it.

Well the burden of proof for the criminal portion is as high, but the government can and should choose what companies it spends our tax dollars on at a level much lower than a criminal conviction. If a company is run by a guy who has been in charge of businesses that have been repeatedly found guilty of defrauding the government, they can and should elect not to do business with him as a simple, commonsense, good government procedure.

I mean why do business with shady people if you don't have to? I imagine this policy will actually be amazingly effective in eliminating large corporate Medicare fraud. Before it was just the company's money on the line if they got caught, either way the CEO had little skin in the game to prevent fraud. If they are being held accountable, you better believe they will be paying better attention.
 

spidey07

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Don't worry spidey, this isn't Obama's idea so you can support it:

I don't buy that bullcrap for one second. Did obama or did he not say he wanted to get rid of private health care/insurance companies? Answer that question and understand how he thinks and it all becomes crystal clear.
 
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I don't buy that bullcrap for one second. Did obama or did he not say he wanted to get rid of private health care/insurance companies? Answer that question and understand how he thinks and it all becomes crystal clear.

I wish he wanted that, but unfortunately he's one of the biggest big-business shills we've ever had in office. His "health care reform" bordered on corporate welfare for the insurance industry. His entire administration is practically ran by Goldman Sachs. If he had an (R) next to his name, Fox News would love him. You sound like one of those redneck hillbillies that are afraid he's a radical socialist just because he has dark skin and a funny name.
 

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until top execs and BOARD members are held accountable financially and criminally for their misdeeds the culture of economic rape will continue.