In regards to XietyCOM's sig

[Gurck]

Here's a link to a random thread started by this poor, misguided child so as to make viewing his sig easier. He freely admits to being a free ipod scammer and, when I expressed concern over his ethics, changed his signature to what you see there, something I've obviously never said.

 

[Turkish]

First of all Gurck, where did I ever admit to being an iPod scammer? Participating in that program or a similar one doesn't mean I go around online communities and posting referral IDs with different usernames. I asked you to fvck off and apologize. What did you do? You kept accusing me.

Look child, if I ever needed to spam on here, I wouldn't post a thread about it: link. See that thread please. Up until people began bombing me with PMs to how I got the free TV, I never mentioned anything about http://www.freeflatscreens.com . And when I did, I didn't give my referral ID.

When I said, PM the mods and kindly ask them to do a check on my IP/Mac Adress/ISP. You refused. You kept accusing me for being a spammer.

When I asked you if you want my full name so you can look it up at freeipods.com and see if I have an account, you refused. Well dumbo, as I said earlier in that thread, I am not a member of freeipods.com, thus your accusations don't make any sense.

Finally, why didn't you post what I told you in the PM? I asked you to apologize about the whole spammer thing if you want me to change my signature. Well you didn't. I'll let the mods take care of my signature and remember, you still owe me an apology.

Do so here and I'll change my signature before the mods do.

 

[Gurck]

Participating in pyramid schemes is scamming. I accused you of nothing, I spoke only of suspicions, there's a fine line. Whether it's free ipods or free flatscreens is semantics; both are scams and both get spammed at AT. It's not surprising that you're arguing semantics though, as you have no real argument and, stubborn as any typical kid, you're unwilling to admit you're wrong. I'll again suggest posting about screwing people on some ex-convict forums, as a tech forum is not the place to be proud of being a ghetto superstar. I'd apologize if it were necessary.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Participating in pyramid schemes is scamming. I accused you of nothing, I spoke only of suspicions, there's a fine line. Whether it's free ipods or free flatscreens is semantics; both are scams and both get spammed at AT. It's not surprising that you're arguing semantics though, as you have no real argument and, stubborn as any typical kid, you're unwilling to admit you're wrong. I'll again suggest posting about screwing people on some ex-convict forums, as a tech forum is not the place to be proud of being a ghetto superstar. I'd apologize if it were necessary.

Pyramid schemes are illegal. These programs are not. Of course you didn't know that because you simply prefer making stuff up. Reading isn't that hard, you know? Also, "a scam" is not the same thing as "spam." A scam is a fradulent business scheme where a promise is not met by a product or service. Spam is unsolicited advertising. This is what Anandtech guidelines prohibits and this is certainly something I never involved in. If participants of this program were screwing other people for personal gain, you'd call it a pyramid scheme. In this progam, everyone gets the same prize after fullfilling the same requirements, thus this is not a pyramid scheme and your point is invalid.

You are so misinformed, I feel bad for you. As I said so in the freeipods.com thread, programs of Gratis Internet Inc. are legal and are sponsored by companies such as AOL, Real Networks and GM. Do you think those companies will get involved in such scam? 3 of my friends got their iPods and an Anandtech member posted pictures of the TV they got from Freeflatscreens.com. Of course that's not enough for you as you're accusing just for the heck of it.

On a side note, I've never seen anyone spam about freeflatscreens.com (not on ATOT, which I frequent.) My stubbornness is a result of false accusation. Perhaps you wouldn't agree as you are the hero of false accusation.

Suggest whatever you want but you have right to bitch as I didn't create a thread about freeipods.com or freeflatscreens.com, did I?

Anyways, unlike you old man, I got work to do. You keep telling me how much older and supposably more mature you are through PMs but you've got nothing better to do this morning.

I feel bad for you.

 

[Gurck]

Wow, where to begin? In PMs I've gone over how money doesn't appear out of thin air, so there's no sense reiterating that. I like how you liken a $300 piece of hardware to a free month with AOL though, the lengths you'll go to rationalize screwing people (or to have others think you're only rationalizing it) are amusing to no end. Legality is not the issue here, ethics are. Businesses runs this country and have gotten away with some horrible crimes due to controlling what is and isn't legal. Because something is legal doesn't necessarily make it right, and prospering from others' misfortune isn't right. You're a parasite.

ATOT has been spammed with the flatscreens pyramid scheme, though granted not as often as with ipods. And as for having nothing better to do.. who spent three hours defending his right to f*ck people for money? If anything a kid your age should have been getting the nightly ~10 hours of sleep his growing body needs. I wouldn't have been sleeping anyway.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Wow, where to begin? In PMs I've gone over how money doesn't appear out of thin air, so there's no sense reiterating that. I like how you liken a $300 piece of hardware to a free month with AOL though, the lengths you'll go to rationalize screwing people (or to have others think you're only rationalizing it) are amusing to no end. Legality is not the issue here, ethics are. Businesses runs this country and have gotten away with some horrible crimes due to controlling what is and isn't legal. Because something is legal doesn't necessarily make it right, and prospering from others' misfortune isn't right. You're a parasite.

ATOT has been spammed with the flatscreens pyramid scheme, though granted not as often as with ipods. And as for having nothing better to do.. who spent three hours defending his right to f*ck people for money? If anything a kid your age should have been getting the nightly ~10 hours of sleep his growing body needs. I wouldn't have been sleeping anyway.

Legality comes before Ethics. If something is ethical but not legal, you don't have a chance.

If you are trying to justify the cost of an iPod against advertising, you need to educate yourself. Advertising is not done so an immediate exchange takes place. Advertising is all about influencing people for future purchases.

If you don't like the way this country is run, why don't you do something about it? Why don't you go inform authorities about freeipods.com? Pyramid Scheme organizers get busted every other day. This site has been up for 1,5 years. Why is it still up?

Look, let me explain one thing to you:

1. You join one of these sites, you complete an offer.
2. You refer 8 friends, and they all complete an offer.
3. You get your product.
4. After your friend completed an offer, they refer 8 friends and they get their iPod as well after their referrals complete an offer.

This is not a scam. As I already said a zillion times, a scam is a fradulent business scheme where a promise is not met by a product or service.

I've been saying this since the beginning and I am gonna repeat it again: I do not advocate neither scammers nor spammers. I never spammed and never will.

I've been wasting 3 hours here to push something into your misfunctioning brain. In a JoeKing thread, I already had said that I was gonna be awake all night reading projects. Unlike you, the misinformed, I got stuff to do, so please excuse me for now.

 

[Gurck]

Justify it all you want, you're just upset I'm making you think about how you're screwing people for personal gain. It's actually a good thing, if you knew fully what you were doing and didn't care that'd be infinitely worse. Last comment I'll make on it is why would you want to influence people to buy something you're giving away for free? It's one thing to give away a month of free service a-la AOL to influence subscribing at the ridiculous price of.. .what do they charge now, $24/mo? It's another thing to give away the very thing you want to sell. Advertising is only a small part of how these schemes work. They're profitable mainly because many people can't / don't / won't get their "friends" to fulfill their referrals. I've said it before, but apparently the concept is beyond you. THESE ARE PYRAMID SCHEMES. Not all, or even most, people who do it get their free item. They can't because then the sites wouldn't profit and so wouldn't exist. It's not their fault for not fulfilling the obligation, though if you want to say they're stupid and shouldn't have fallen for it I probably wouldn't disagree - however that doesn't make it ok. You think legitimate services spawn this kind of spam? You think money grows on trees? Grow up. Crying 'but it's legal' about things that should not be iis only an excuse scum tells itself to get to sleep at night.

HOWEVER

The issue here isn't the disagreement, as disagreements happen roughly every 0.2 seconds on ATOT. The issue is the infantile modification to your signature which slanders me.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Justify it all you want, you're just upset I'm making you think about how you're screwing people for personal gain. It's actually a good thing, if you knew fully what you were doing and didn't care that'd be infinitely worse. Last comment I'll make on it is why would you want to influence people to buy something you're giving away for free? It's one thing to give away a month of free service a-la AOL to influence subscribing at the ridiculous price of.. .what do they charge now, $24/mo? It's another thing to give away the very thing you want to sell. You think money grows on trees. Grow up. Crying 'but it's legal' about things that should not be iis only an excuse scum tells itself to get to sleep at night.

HOWEVER

The issue here isn't the disagreement, as disagreements happen roughly every 0.2 seconds on ATOT. The issue is the infantile modification to your signature which slanders me.

Definition of slander: a false and malicious statement or report about someone (dictionary.com). Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you said "XietyCOM creating usernames and posting freeipod.com threads"? Yes it is.

For the last time, this is my final response to this thread. My signature may not be appropriate but neither were your comments about me. I'll let Anandtech Moderator take care of this. I'm sure he'll make the most fair decision.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
For the last time, this is my final response to this thread. My signature may not be appropriate but neither were your comments about me. I'll let Anandtech Moderator take care of this. I'm sure he'll make the most fair decision.

I merely speculated. You're actively purporting that I've said something which I did not. Only a child, which you obviously are, would not see the difference.

I'd like to share your enthusiasm about a mod making the right decision... but I don't think you'll be banned and sent to some Pokemon or Power Rangers forums :laugh: