"In bed in the military"

Phokus

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Embedded with the military must be a euphemism for in bed with the military, which is how a truly shameful episode in American TV journalism is shaping up. For journalistic jingoism, it's hard to find a better example than the coverage of the high-tech media extravaganza known as "Operation Iraqi Freedom." What makes the supposed American champions of objectivity so much more obnoxious is that they parade flagrant bias as gritty and honest reporting.

This invasion is causing a tectonic shakeup around the Arab world, but we Americans and our reporters don't want to know. We continue to cling unhealthily to the Walt Disney worldview whereby the grateful infantile Iraqis will soon rejoice at the sight of the noble, wise American liberators, and all will live happily ever after.

As the Washington Post reported, however, instead of greeting the U.S. troops as liberators, dozens of Iraqis surrounded the first humanitarian aid trucks to reach Safwan and shouted anti-American slogans. "With our blood, we sacrifice ourselves for you, Saddam," they chanted. Queuing for water, an Iraqi in the South told an Egyptian television reporter that he did not want his country to be occupied by foreign forces. (You did know that, thanks to the "liberators," many Iraqis have been without water, electricity and sanitation services.)


Those of us who warned of the backlash are told that we are bound by some social contract to keep quiet. "Boobus Americanus," you see, wants to conquer, colonize and stay comatose. Fat chance, and as I predicted weeks back, "However oppressed, people would sooner deal with their homey Hun than submit to a foreign force, even if it comes bearing ready-made instant democracy."

Not that you would know it from the depictions on American networks, but even moderates like the Egyptians and Jordanians are taking their fury against American aggression to the streets. In fact, where there is already a healthy hatred for Saddam, it hasn't dampened the hate for America. In Tehran, demonstrators simply chanted "Death to America, Death to Saddam." Nor has the illegality of public demonstrations in most Arab states dammed up the overflowing damnation. The streets seethed alike in Dubai, in non-Arab Muslim Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, in non-Muslim South Korea and in India. The entire Arab world ? from unusual suspects like mild-mannered professionals to usual suspects like Islamist militants ? has united in issuing a rousing condemnation of this invasion.

Yet to listen to the reports on our television, Iraqis are the odd ones out ? they can barely conceal their merriment, and, if not for fear of Saddam, whose grip on power is tenuous, Iraqis would be doing the Debka (an Arabic traditional dance) in the streets.

"Bush is an occupier and terrorist," said George Elnaber, 36, an Arab Christian from Amman. "He thought he was playing a video game. We hate Americans more than we hate Saddam now," he boomed. In Syria, a young student, who witnessed a U.S. missile accidentally hitting a busload of civilians, muttered to the Reuters news agency how she "wanted to kill, not only curse." "America is our enemy now," Ali Sabry, 43, a building attendant in Cairo, told the Post. "They have millions of Muslims praying against them every day." Leila, a Saudi physician, described by the Post as a "svelte woman in her mid-40s," says she "would prefer to have someone like Saddam rule all the Arab world than have America here."

American troops in the Iraqi desert were victims of the first suicide bomber. Flocking to join him now are thousands of Muslims from Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia, all seeking to carry out "martyrdom operations" against the invaders.

Not only has Bush radicalized the Arab Street, but he has also gone and united fundamentalist and moderate secular Arabs in a common cause! There was no love lost between al-Qaida and the Iraqis ? the CIA itself said so. Brilliant Bush has bridged that divide.

Surprise, surprise: Iraq was invaded ? but "coalition forces" are now complaining bitterly that Iraqis are not respecting the Geneva Convention.

Isn't the nation that has been aggressed against justified in deploying all methods to repel the invader? Would anyone have flinched if, in 1990, Kuwaitis had gone all out against the invading Iraqis? If my home were broken into, and if I ruthlessly eliminated the burglar, even when he assured me he was there to ultimately improve my lot, would I be without logical warrant? Or as a 33-year-old Shiite told the Los Angeles Times: "Do you allow someone to enter your home and force you out of it?"

It'd be good of the Iraqis if they adhered to the Geneva Convention, but for the Pocahontas Partners to feign shock and indignation at Iraq's lack of commitment to the Convention is most peculiar.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31831
 

RyanM

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I really dislike when people post stuff like this but then fail to make any comment on it. If you're gonna go to the effort of copy/pasting the info, take another 30 seconds to say something about it. Otherwise, just put the link there and be done with it.
 

Queasy

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At least post something current. I saw that article just a couple days after the ground war started. Really not up to date on the realities of the war now.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: MachFive
I really dislike when people post stuff like this but then fail to make any comment on it. If you're gonna go to the effort of copy/pasting the info, take another 30 seconds to say something about it. Otherwise, just put the link there and be done with it.
Well, Phokus just doesn't have anything intelligent to add to this forum. Just likes to spout flame-bait and run. Just read a few posts and you'll see.

 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: MachFive
I really dislike when people post stuff like this but then fail to make any comment on it. If you're gonna go to the effort of copy/pasting the info, take another 30 seconds to say something about it. Otherwise, just put the link there and be done with it.


If you've already seen the troll there's nothing more to see here. It may follow you around for awhile or make some more attention getting noises but if you ignore it and don't feed it, it will go away.

This ones not very interesting anyway. It only has about .05% of the intelligence of the other trolls and it keeps making the same noise over and over . . .

 

Morph

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In other words, you wanted him to post his personal views on the article so you could go straight to bashing him and ignore discussing the merits of the article itself. And I see you've all managed to do that anyway. The man has posted an interesting article for discussion, if you are not interested in it then move on. If you have any comments regarding the content of the article, then let's hear them.

In my opinion, this article is right on the money. It should be obvious to anyone with an objective eye the way the US media is pushing the stories that are pro-USA/pro-war. Stories about Iraqis cheering the invading coalition trrops are always plastered on the front pages, while the stories of Iraqis showing their contempt for our troops get little mention. Stories of all the dastardly deeds of the enemy are always highlighted, while stories about the civilians we are killing are downplayed. Etc etc.
 

UltraQuiet

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In other words, you wanted him to post his personal views on the article so you could go straight to bashing him and ignore discussing the merits of the article itself. And I see you've all managed to do that anyway. The man has posted an interesting article for discussion, if you are not interested in it then move on. If you have any comments regarding the content of the article, then let's hear them.

The "man" is a well known troll. Any discussion with him would result in his second or third post being "bush is a communist/facist" or somehting equally intelligent. The comments that were made were accurate and on point. It just saved everyone a lot time but getting it done up front. As far as your comments about when/how/what to post feel free to keep them to yourself. Your input is neither required nor desired.

As far as the article goes, it is everything that it supposedly is criticizing. Not to mention inaccurate. I have read there may be a couple hundred of people coming to join the Iraqis, not thousands.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Morph
In other words, you wanted him to post his personal views on the article so you could go straight to bashing him and ignore discussing the merits of the article itself. And I see you've all managed to do that anyway. The man has posted an interesting article for discussion, if you are not interested in it then move on. If you have any comments regarding the content of the article, then let's hear them.

In my opinion, this article is right on the money. It should be obvious to anyone with an objective eye the way the US media is pushing the stories that are pro-USA/pro-war. Stories about Iraqis cheering the invading coalition trrops are always plastered on the front pages, while the stories of Iraqis showing their contempt for our troops get little mention. Stories of all the dastardly deeds of the enemy are always highlighted, while stories about the civilians we are killing are downplayed. Etc etc.

We can't "root" for our team then? If you follow sporting events or anything else that has "their own" reporters/commentators obviously they try to slant the view of the reader/listener since THAT IS THEIR SIDE!!! jeez - makes me all the more curious as to who's side you both are on. Do we still get reports of "the bad things?" -yes , do we get reports of good things? - yes but if you want your "team" to win what would you rather see in the headlines?:confused:

CkG
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Morph

In my opinion, this article is right on the money. It should be obvious to anyone with an objective eye the way the US media is pushing the stories that are pro-USA/pro-war. Stories about Iraqis cheering the invading coalition trrops are always plastered on the front pages, while the stories of Iraqis showing their contempt for our troops get little mention. Stories of all the dastardly deeds of the enemy are always highlighted, while stories about the civilians we are killing are downplayed. Etc etc.
Hey, whatever works for you. I notice that you always relish anything negative that's said about the war and absolutely disdain anything positive. As for Phokus, he's just a troll as has been already noted. As for the writer of article complaining of journalistic jingoism, a quick read through his groundbreaking commentary and its fairly obvious that he's certainly the pot calling the kettle black.

 

sMiLeYz

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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Morph

In my opinion, this article is right on the money. It should be obvious to anyone with an objective eye the way the US media is pushing the stories that are pro-USA/pro-war. Stories about Iraqis cheering the invading coalition trrops are always plastered on the front pages, while the stories of Iraqis showing their contempt for our troops get little mention. Stories of all the dastardly deeds of the enemy are always highlighted, while stories about the civilians we are killing are downplayed. Etc etc.
Hey, whatever works for you. I notice that you always relish anything negative that's said about the war and absolutely disdain anything positive. As for Phokus, he's just a troll as has been already noted. As for the writer of article complaining of journalistic jingoism, a quick read through his groundbreaking commentary and its fairly obvious that he's certainly the pot calling the kettle black.

I notice war mongers post positive things about the war and attack anything negative. It is really that different?