In Austin they are shooting each other.

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Lifer
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I don’t understand. I have it on good authority that an armed society is a polite one
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Vic

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Unfortunately, we are going to see more situations like the above unfold. There are far too many guns and too many people willing to use them. I find it odd that we blame police for deadly force but then expect them to contend with a citizenry for which a firearm can potentially escalate just about any situation. Why does the driver need to drive around with a firearm? Why is a peaceful protestor attending a peaceful protest with a firearm?

Because there are drivers who drive around peaceful protests with firearms.
 

BUTCH1

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I completely agree - hence my response to your post just below.

Considering how much they are complying with officers, this doesn't sound like a case of hiding evidence that typically correlates.

Regardless, ultimate judgement is with the full-evidence.
They had no chance to scurry off unseen, of course countless cell phones had the make/year/model/color of the vehicle involved along with the tag # so yea, the best bet would be to call cops and say you were threatened even if that were untrue.
 

Vic

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Seems to be a very questionable source as well. A quick search of Mr. Ngo's claims is very instructive. Seems as if he sees "Antifa" everywhere.
Andy Ngo is the propaganda mouthpiece for a group of far-right extremists who have murdered 2 and whose leaders are currently facing felony charges for starting riots.
But even if you remove the bias, he's still just complaining that leftists are exercising their 2a rights, as though the 2a is for righties only.
 

Muse

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It does. A gun gives a person the power to kill with very little effort.
And as such it's a big problem for us. Unless you like living in a world where anyone you meet can easily kill you if they have a notion to.
 
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Playing with cars - regardless of protesting is simply only a game that the mentally inept would choose to play. If someone does something such as honks their horn because you're in the way of traffic - and you THEN PROCEED to DOGPILE infront of that car... I'm sorry but you're just darwanism waiting to happen. It's only a matter of time and I hold zero sympathy for you.

It would be one thing if legalities were on your side - such as having a permit to block off streets - but playing by the rules isn't something these sort of incompotent fools are ever about.


In the case of this Austin shooting incident - it is yet another case of moronic behavior.

Pointing a rifle at someone that is peacefully trying to go somewhere (and YOU are the one impeding them) is your ticket to death. Congratulations, you played a stupid game and you won a stupid prize.

Anyhow, it's crystal clear that the folks in the car will get off - and rightfully so. You point guns at people to execute a defensive measure to stop a conflict. You don't point them to threaten and think "That isn't enough to justify someone else shooting me to defend themself"

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Jhhnn

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Playing with cars - regardless of protesting is simply only a game that the mentally inept would choose to play. If someone does something such as honks their horn because you're in the way of traffic - and you THEN PROCEED to DOGPILE infront of that car... I'm sorry but you're just darwanism waiting to happen. It's only a matter of time and I hold zero sympathy for you.

It would be one thing if legalities were on your side - such as having a permit to block off streets - but playing by the rules isn't something these sort of incompotent fools are ever about.


In the case of this Austin shooting incident - it is yet another case of moronic behavior.

Pointing a rifle at someone that is peacefully trying to go somewhere (and YOU are the one impeding them) is your ticket to death. Congratulations, you played a stupid game and you won a stupid prize.

Anyhow, it's crystal clear that the folks in the car will get off - and rightfully so. You point guns at people to execute a defensive measure to stop a conflict. You don't point them to threaten and think "That isn't enough to justify someone else shooting me to defend themself"

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So it's perfectly OK to drive into a crowd of pedestrians because you think they don't belong there?

Where did you get that pic? Did you not realize that the muzzle is pointed towards the ground?
 

Starbuck1975

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Of course they were pedestrians-


At least have the honesty to actually address the argument if you're going to comment at all. Apparently not.
Pedestrians use crosswalks, obey traffic laws and don’t intentionally disrupt traffic. Your wiki article even acknowledges that pedestrians have a shared safety responsibility when sharing the road with vehicles. Agitators block traffic and threaten motorists.
 

SMOGZINN

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Pedestrians use crosswalks, obey traffic laws and don’t intentionally disrupt traffic.
I don't know what city you are in but in my city they most certainly don't. Driving downtown is like some bad videogame where someone is likely to step out in middle of the street at any time.
 
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So it's perfectly OK to drive into a crowd of pedestrians because you think they don't belong there?

Where did you get that pic? Did you not realize that the muzzle is pointed towards the ground?

The guy turned a fucking corner and came to a COMPLETE STOP. He never once ran anyone over and came to a complete stop.

Quit misconstruing shit and making strawman arguments that don't exist.

I simply said that it is Darwanism 101 to go infront of a 2-ton moving vehicle. That is the EPITOME of STUPIDITY.
 

Jhhnn

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Pedestrians use crosswalks, obey traffic laws and don’t intentionally disrupt traffic. Your wiki article even acknowledges that pedestrians have a shared safety responsibility when sharing the road with vehicles. Agitators block traffic and threaten motorists.

So what? Is it right or is it wrong to deliberately drive into a crowd of people walking anywhere? Is that not a threat to their safety? Is it not deliberately provocative?

Be sure to take a gun, cuz you might get the excuse to murder somebody & get away with it.
 

Muse

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Pedestrians use crosswalks, obey traffic laws and don’t intentionally disrupt traffic. Your wiki article even acknowledges that pedestrians have a shared safety responsibility when sharing the road with vehicles. Agitators block traffic and threaten motorists.
Dude, you're a conservative. You're messed up. You should give immediate priority to ridding yourself of your conservative proclivities. They are preventing you from having a meaningful life.
 

Jhhnn

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The guy turned a fucking corner and came to a COMPLETE STOP. He never once ran anyone over and came to a complete stop.

Quit misconstruing shit and making strawman arguments that don't exist.

I simply said that it is Darwanism 101 to go infront of a 2-ton moving vehicle. That is the EPITOME of STUPIDITY.

You said a lot more than that. You even claimed that a pic of a guy not pointing a gun at somebody was a picture of him pointing a gun at somebody.

I'd really like to see the vid that still came from. Hook us up.
 

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Pedestrians use crosswalks, obey traffic laws and don’t intentionally disrupt traffic. Your wiki article even acknowledges that pedestrians have a shared safety responsibility when sharing the road with vehicles. Agitators block traffic and threaten motorists.

Make sure to include that factor in your personal dictionary. Pedestrians must use crosswalks at all time or they forgo Starbucks version of pedestrian and immediately become road kill worthy.
 
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Thank you. Now notice that the deceased's grip in his weapon is the same as in this pic, where the muzzle is pointed towards the ground-

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Now notice in your picture where his elbow is - and then compare that to where his elbow is clearly raised up in the picture I posted. Also his 2nd hand damn sure isn't on the front of the gun like in yours either.

Also keep in mind in the context of "aiming down" that is entirely a stupid concept. You're talking about a man standing vs. another man sitting in a small car. Unless the gun is literally pointing STRAIGHT down 180 degrees, the concept of "pointing the gun down" could very well be pointing it at the person in the car (especially with how raised his elbow is). The man in the car is literally just a foot or so above ground level since he is effectively sitting in his car.

Regardless, until some actual clear footage comes out this isn't an argument that is going to end. Suffice it to say - you play stupid games and you win stupid prizes. You stop a moving vehicle and you march towards it with a mask on and a gun aimed towards them - don't be surprised when the results aren't peaceful.


EDIT: Google Image search "How to fire a rifle" and tell me what the pic I posted looks like.

EDIT2: Also I just FUCKING LOVE how you guys are balls deep in defending someone that is openly carrying all of a sudden. The irony.... oh the irony!