Improving Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB Benchmarks

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Salahuddin

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Hello,

Just recently built the PC below. Ran a few benchmarks on my new SSD. I seem to be getting a bit lower scores than in reviews of the drive. Do these look accurate for my system? If not, any suggestions? I'm running Windows 7 x64 and have about 30GB of the drive used.

I've done the following optimizations:
1. AHCI Enabled.
2. System Restore Disabled
3. Drive Indexing Disabled
4. Removed Page File (its on the Storage HD for regular use)
5. Prefetch and Superfetch Disabled
6. Trim Verified

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AMD FX-6300 @4.7GHZ, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, Patriot Viper 3 2X8GB @ 1960MHZ & 10-11-10-27, EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024MB @ 930/2200, EVGA e-GeForce 8800 GT Superclocked @ 675/973 (PhysX), Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB SSD, 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA II, x2 500 GB Wester Digital Caviar SATA II, Samsung SH-203N LightScribe DVD Writer, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W, Antec P280 Case, Asus VH238H Black 23" Full HD HDMI LED, 3DMark 11: P4551
 
kbp

kbp

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Welcome to the AT forums.
My guess would be your numbers are just fine on a AMD sata controler.
 
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Salahuddin

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Thanks for the welcome! It is very much appreciated.

By what you said, do you suggest I go back to the Microsoft AHCI drivers?
 
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Salahuddin

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I just mentioned those optimizations as they are recommended on most SSD guides I have read. I wanted to clarify in case it was suggested to improve the benchmarks. In my case:
2. I never use system restore anyways because I don't find it useful.
3. I personally saw a big difference with drive indexing turned off on my regular HD, since I don't use it I turned it off with my new system.
5. Windows 7 x64 automatically disables Superfetch (and I think Prefetch) when you install on an SSD.
4. I have read that its preferable not to have a pagefile on your SSD due to unnecessary/extra writes. In any case, I don't think its used much. I actually would turn it off altogether but some programs don't like it. Benchmarks posted were run without a pagefile in any case. I have run them with a pagefile on the SSD as well with similar results.
 
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lenasmith

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I want to learn something from this post, however, I just found I am puzzled now.
 
san.salvador

san.salvador

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Salahuddin said:
I just mentioned those optimizations as they are recommended on most SSD guides I have read. I wanted to clarify in case it was suggested to improve the benchmarks. In my case:
2. I never use system restore anyways because I don't find it useful.
3. I personally saw a big difference with drive indexing turned off on my regular HD, since I don't use it I turned it off with my new system.
5. Windows 7 x64 automatically disables Superfetch (and I think Prefetch) when you install on an SSD.
4. I have read that its preferable not to have a pagefile on your SSD due to unnecessary/extra writes. In any case, I don't think its used much. I actually would turn it off altogether but some programs don't like it. Benchmarks posted were run without a pagefile in any case. I have run them with a pagefile on the SSD as well with similar results.
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ad 3: It's a core mechanic of a modern Windows system. Turning it off just boggles my mind. Yes, HDDs have to be indexed initially, that can lead to some noise in the first few hours. After that you just have a pretty great index. On SSDs this index is created within minutes. You simply win nothing at all by turning it off.
ad 4: Exact the opposite is true. There even is a blog post from MS-Employee which describes why the pagefile is pretty much born to exist on an SSD. And tunring it off completely will lead to some pretty nasty problems, because many programs check if there is a pagefile and will not install/work if there isn't any. No matter how much RAM you have.
 
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Salahuddin

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Just to provide some clarification to lenasmith rather than to debate, the SSD guides I have read has mentioned the opposite for both.

I think this is the blog that was being referred to regarding the pagefile:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx
I think it is common knowledge that pagefile performance would be better on an SSD. But the concern seems to remain about unnecessary wear on the SSD. This is discussed in the blog but seems to conclude that there would be extra wear on the SSD (although maybe less than expected). This is why most SSD guides suggest not having it on the SSD. I would think that any performance loss would be minimal, but I'm not sure. Anyways, you can read the blog and decide for yourself.

Bottom line in my case is that I just mentioned the changes I made to clarify that they were done. I just thought I was getting lower benchmarks than I should and wanted some help with that.
 
birthdaymonkey

birthdaymonkey

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Salahuddin said:
I think it is common knowledge that pagefile performance would be better on an SSD. But the concern seems to remain about unnecessary wear on the SSD. .
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I can't believe this FUD persists! It's from the early days of SSDs when garbage collection didn't work and there was a realistic possibility of endurance being an issue.

Now, it's just going to reduce system performance (defeating the purpose of buying an SSD by using the hard drive for one of the most speed sensitive tasks) whenever a program uses the pagefile.
 
Unit'Igor

Unit'Igor

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Where did you see better numbers then you have,thats about it with Chronos Deluxe.
And about optimization,you did everything fine.
All those things that you turn off,you dont need on SSD.It just take you place and write on SSD without reason.
You dont really expect from MS-employees to tell you they made something its useless on SSD.
 
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