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IMO these bans should be reviewed...

In this thread there were 3 bans, 2 given 2 weeks for childish, but really harmless comments, and another given a week for comments already derided on this forum for ages.

How is calling someone GAY and saying he has AIDS and gonorrhea only worth a week if the other 2 were given 2 week bans for being immature??
 
i have never been banned, so i am not sure. but i think they look at who the poster is and if they should know better, if they have been in trouble before and what offense was commited. more insulting and objectionable is relative, i guess.

 
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
In this thread there were 3 bans, 2 given 2 weeks for childish, but really harmless comments, and another given a week for comments already derided on this forum for ages.

How is calling someone GAY and saying he has AIDS and gonorrhea only worth a week if the other 2 were given 2 week bans for being immature??

Agreed!

There appears to be at least one overzealous mod here today! And while I don't often frequent this "forum rules" section, it does appear that there are some others here as well........(FrustratedUser's thread is rather obvious).......where this is more on whim than principal!

I've moderated other forums in the past and would certainly at least balance the penalties on what I've read. I was accused of abuse of power once and went to definitive lengths to justify my means. If the mod has time to make comments, this should include reasons.

As a matter of personal opinion, I've definitely seen worse on this forum. I, too, am a little surprised at the action taken by this particular mod. I'd have simply locked and/or deleted the thread.

Sorry for MX2times who really doesn't deserve to be banned for something like that. (One of the main supporters backing Purplehippo in his time of need.........and I think we all remember that!)

🙁
 
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
In this thread there were 3 bans, 2 given 2 weeks for childish, but really harmless comments, and another given a week for comments already derided on this forum for ages.

How is calling someone GAY and saying he has AIDS and gonorrhea only worth a week if the other 2 were given 2 week bans for being immature??

Agreed!

There appears to be at least one overzealous mod here today! And while I don't often frequent this "forum rules" section, it does appear that there are some others here as well........(FrustratedUser's thread is rather obvious).......where this is more on whim than principal!

I've moderated other forums in the past and would certainly at least balance the penalties on what I've read. I was accused of abuse of power once and went to definitive lengths to justify my means. If the mod has time to make comments, this should include reasons.

As a matter of personal opinion, I've definitely seen worse on this forum. I, too, am a little surprised at the action taken by this particular mod. I'd have simply locked and/or deleted the thread.

Sorry for MX2times who really doesn't deserve to be banned for something like that. (One of the main supporters backing Purplehippo in his time of need.........and I think we all remember that!)

🙁

It seems that some of your comments may have been addressed by the Moderator in that last post that MikeyIs4Dcats made.
Because I may have to reserve one of my travel weeks for people who may want to join the others.

Track records also count.

Mod
And the thread is currently locked.

Were the perps banned or given time off?


If there is a Moderator(s) that is overstepping their bounds, I am sure the there will be some adjustment made.

OR

It could be that one or more Mods have decided to slowly cleanup this place due to people that think that it is OK to turn it into the local graffitti gang wall.

If people feel that they have to defend themselves on an Internet Forum; then their reputation must mean something to them. Therefore they should be able to correspond accordingly.

How much of the language/attitude that is represented here would be done in front of one's boss?

It would be interesting to see what MikeyIs4Dcats response is now. He started this thread and has not been back to it in 2 days, yet he was active last night (unless a Mod became upset with him).
 
Jadinoff got banned? Man he's one of the nicest guys on AT and another Old Timer like me. I hope he doesn't get pissed and decide not to come back.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Jadinoff got banned? Man he's one of the nicest guys on AT and another Old Timer like me. I hope he doesn't get pissed and decide not to come back.


man, he's been here forever too. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Jadinoff got banned? Man he's one of the nicest guys on AT and another Old Timer like me. I hope he doesn't get pissed and decide not to come back.

WTF? :shocked:

That was MY point. Jadinolf is like a grandfather.

As far as Eaglekeepers comments, I saw the mod comment as I posted above and took it as resolution. I don't necessarily agree on the face of it, but I don't know everything. I still have a hard time believing jadinolf has a long history of being bad.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Jadinoff got banned? Man he's one of the nicest guys on AT and another Old Timer like me. I hope he doesn't get pissed and decide not to come back.

We already lost Roger, though not because of the mods, but because of the declining 'average inteligence' (That's the best way I can put it) of AT; ATOT in specifc.

Getting a vacation for saying something idiotic (which I am not saying anyone's comment was idiotic btw) Isn't worth a vacation IMHO, but ATOT needs to be cleaned up a little (read:A Lot), as the mods have let more and more slide, which is perfectly fine. The issue comes when members don't know when to stop.

With AT becoming a larger and larger community, it becomes harder to police; which probably requires more Mods. The more Mods there are, the harder it is to 'calibrate' the actions between Mods so one Mod may do something like giving one week vacation instead of 2, or perhaps none at all. It makes it harder on the Mods (and members of course) that there is no written list of rules.

The fact of the matter is AT is no longer the 'tight nit' group that it used to be; where Mod action wasn't a constant need because the members were pretty good at knowing where the line in the sand was drawn, and were pretty good about not stepping over it. Now, with the influx of members that don't have the sence of mind (though age, maturity, whatever) that was evident before. Many new members pick up the crap that other existing members post, and that works into the new memebrs post. But because a new member said it instead of someone who has been here since the dawn of time (or is well liked, or whatever) they get a vacation. (though obviously that did not happen in this case)

I think it is human nature to give more leeway to an existing member than a new one. That is the only explanation as to why I have only been given 1 vacation instead of banned forever, anyway 😛

Is that a bad thing? Maybe. Maybe not. Do I know a way to 'fix' these issues? Nope. I don't think there is a 'best way' to run a forum and deal with members who go beyond a set point. I do howevr have at least one suggestion.

In the business world, there are calibration meetings over such things as review scores or other things that are subjectvie. Perhaps the Mods should have (I am assuming they do not now) some kind of calibration meeting, thread, or some such thing so all the Mods can get on the same page so to speak. The members will still have to make educated guesses as to where the line in the sand is, but the mods as a unit will all 'grade' posts closer to the same point.

Of course that raises the point of 'if I know where the line is, I will stay one 'word' short of it'. There should probably be a warning or something to members who irk a Mod (or the mod just hasen't had any coffee yet; whatever 🙂) Those warnings (Mod edits) used to be mroe previlant than they are now. Not sure what that means.

Ok, that was long and rambling. I'm done.

Oh, and don't anyone think that I include myself in the 'Perfect' group or whatever you call it. I have screwed up many a time (many many times), and count my blessings for only getting one vacation.

 
I agree. I thought I was a well know and respected member, 3th for the team anandtech F@H, and gave a lot of sound advice. I don't even go into ATOT (off topic, right).

So somebody says my posts are crap, I respond that "that wasn;t nice, and you know its rediculous that an Intel laptop beats and AMD of equiv rating by a factor of 10" in other words, but didn't even use cuss words, but I got a vacation for a week !

Then this other guy (designit) goes for days and spews every insult on the earth before he gets banned. All I want is a little consistency, and some rules that are followed a little closer. It should be obvious when reading a thread who needs to go bye-bye. Just a quick look is unfair.

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Do not call someone an ahole and you do not get a vacation.
As explained previously in the post where you recieved the vacation, there was no need for the use of it other than a personal attack.

Accept your mistake and move on.
Keep complaining and you can do it by e-mail again.

Mod


 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
I agree. I thought I was a well know and respected member, 3th for the team anandtech F@H, and gave a lot of sound advice. I don't even go into ATOT (off topic, right).

So somebody says my posts are crap, I respond that "that wasn;t nice, and you know its rediculous that an Intel laptop beats and AMD of equiv rating by a factor of 10" in other words, but didn't even use cuss words, but I got a vacation for a week !

Then this other guy (designit) goes for days and spews every insult on the earth before he gets banned. All I want is a little consistency, and some rules that are followed a little closer. It should be obvious when reading a thread who needs to go bye-bye. Just a quick look is unfair.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Do not call someone an ahole and you do not get a vacation.
As explained previously in the post where you recieved the vacation, there was no need for the use of it other than a personal attack.

Accept your mistake and move on.
Keep complaining and you can do it by e-mail again.

Mod

and you can complain all you want via e-mail they just ignore it.

Quit trying to stir up crap, Mike

AnandTech Moderator
 
The Mods said a long time ago that they were going to be tougher about enforcing the rules. I think that their actions are a culmination of that statement combined with the fact that some of them are tired of the rampant immaturity in ATOT.

And I bet they keep ignoring your attempts at contacting them because they realize that you view ATOT as an unrestricted playground, which it is not. In the TOS is says that:

You agree that you will not use our Forums to post any material, or links to any material, which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.

In addition, they recently imposed another rule which protects gender equality and fair treatment. True, they have a few "unwritten rules or otherwise" which can be like an infrared trap, but the ones I am aware of are common sense!

Unfortunately, the majority of ATOT has not come to grips with any of these rules. As a result the Mods have been forced to take a more direct and visible course of action to get their point across.

I have no affiliation with any of the Mods and all of these are my personal assumptions. If this is in error feel free to edit this post or delete it all together.
 
Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Jadinoff got banned? Man he's one of the nicest guys on AT and another Old Timer like me. I hope he doesn't get pissed and decide not to come back.

We already lost Roger, though not because of the mods, but because of the declining 'average inteligence' (That's the best way I can put it) of AT; ATOT in specifc.

Getting a vacation for saying something idiotic (which I am not saying anyone's comment was idiotic btw) Isn't worth a vacation IMHO, but ATOT needs to be cleaned up a little (read:A Lot), as the mods have let more and more slide, which is perfectly fine. The issue comes when members don't know when to stop.

With AT becoming a larger and larger community, it becomes harder to police; which probably requires more Mods. The more Mods there are, the harder it is to 'calibrate' the actions between Mods so one Mod may do something like giving one week vacation instead of 2, or perhaps none at all. It makes it harder on the Mods (and members of course) that there is no written list of rules.

The fact of the matter is AT is no longer the 'tight nit' group that it used to be; where Mod action wasn't a constant need because the members were pretty good at knowing where the line in the sand was drawn, and were pretty good about not stepping over it. Now, with the influx of members that don't have the sence of mind (though age, maturity, whatever) that was evident before. Many new members pick up the crap that other existing members post, and that works into the new memebrs post. But because a new member said it instead of someone who has been here since the dawn of time (or is well liked, or whatever) they get a vacation. (though obviously that did not happen in this case)

I think it is human nature to give more leeway to an existing member than a new one. That is the only explanation as to why I have only been given 1 vacation instead of banned forever, anyway 😛

Is that a bad thing? Maybe. Maybe not. Do I know a way to 'fix' these issues? Nope. I don't think there is a 'best way' to run a forum and deal with members who go beyond a set point. I do howevr have at least one suggestion.

In the business world, there are calibration meetings over such things as review scores or other things that are subjectvie. Perhaps the Mods should have (I am assuming they do not now) some kind of calibration meeting, thread, or some such thing so all the Mods can get on the same page so to speak. The members will still have to make educated guesses as to where the line in the sand is, but the mods as a unit will all 'grade' posts closer to the same point.

Of course that raises the point of 'if I know where the line is, I will stay one 'word' short of it'. There should probably be a warning or something to members who irk a Mod (or the mod just hasen't had any coffee yet; whatever 🙂) Those warnings (Mod edits) used to be mroe previlant than they are now. Not sure what that means.

Ok, that was long and rambling. I'm done.

Oh, and don't anyone think that I include myself in the 'Perfect' group or whatever you call it. I have screwed up many a time (many many times), and count my blessings for only getting one vacation.

good post
 
Perhaps bans should be reviewed, but not by the user community. Maybe another forum like Forum issues that can be used for 2nd opinions? Use baseball as an example--occasionally the umpire has to go to the 1st base judge for a call. Something similar for banning offenses? In any case, you guys love to smack the hornet's nest and then wonder why you got stung. :sigh; At least in this thread, I think I'm out.... Too risky a topic to keep posting.
 
Originally posted by: altonb1
Perhaps bans should be reviewed, but not by the user community. Maybe another forum like Forum issues that can be used for 2nd opinions? Use baseball as an example--occasionally the umpire has to go to the 1st base judge for a call. Something similar for banning offenses? In any case, you guys love to smack the hornet's nest and then wonder why you got stung. :sigh; At least in this thread, I think I'm out.... Too risky a topic to keep posting.

:shocked:

*edit* Your sig got me...thought they'd banned you for your post.
 
I don't understand all this bellyaching... I mean, every now and then I drop a four letter word here and there, I complain about stuff, I neff (very occasionally), and I've never heard a peep out of the mods.

You guys must be idiots. 🙂

EDIT: And I do want to say that for the most part I agree with all the mod actions I see, not that you all are looking for my approval. Sometimes the bans seem heavy-handed for relatively minor comments, but when you look at the posting history of some members, it's obvious that junk is 90% of what they post.
 
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
I don't understand all this bellyaching... I mean, every now and then I drop a four letter word here and there, I complain about stuff, I neff (very occasionally), and I've never heard a peep out of the mods.

Same here...

*hides* 🙂

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peek a boo ........

Prudish Moderator
 
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
I don't understand all this bellyaching... I mean, every now and then I drop a four letter word here and there, I complain about stuff, I neff (very occasionally), and I've never heard a peep out of the mods.

Same here...

*hides* 🙂

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peek a boo ........

Prudish Moderator

The gods must like me, I guess. 🙂



Yes. With fava beans and chianti.
AnandTech Moderator
 
Darn, TerryMathews, the way that mod is looking and commenting about you, I think you are in danger of being on the dinner menu. :shocked:
 
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
The gods must like me, I guess. 🙂



Yes. With fava beans and chianti.
AnandTech Moderator

Well, I guess we know who one of the mods is.

How are you today, Dr. Lecter?

I would not recommend that you do any posting on "Cinco de Mayo"

 
Let me also point out that Vacation <> Ban. A 1 week vacation is NOT a ban. And NO, you do not need to type any mean words. Fark, I always assume that the word filter will kill that carp anyway. See? 😉
 
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