Immigrant farm workers' challenge: Take our jobs

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100624/ap_on_en_tv/us_immigration_take_our_jobs

Immigrant farm workers' challenge: Take our jobs

By JULIANA BARBASSA, Associated Press Writer Juliana Barbassa, Associated Press Writer – Thu Jun 24, 5:42 pm ET
SAN FRANCISCO – In a tongue-in-cheek call for immigration reform, farm workers are teaming up with comedian Stephen Colbert to challenge unemployed Americans: Come on, take our jobs.

Farm workers are tired of being blamed by politicians and anti-immigrant activists for taking work that should go to Americans and dragging down the economy, said Arturo Rodriguez, the president of the United Farm Workers of America.

So the group is encouraging the unemployed — and any Washington pundits or anti-immigrant activists who want to join them — to apply for the some of thousands of agricultural jobs being posted with state agencies as harvest season begins.

All applicants need to do is fill out an online form under the banner "I want to be a farm worker" at http://www.takeourjobs.org, and experienced field hands will train them and connect them to farms.

According to the Labor Department, three out of four farm workers were born abroad, and more than half are illegal immigrants.

Proponents of tougher immigration laws have argued that farmers have become used to cheap labor and don't want to raise wages enough to draw in other workers.

Those who have done the job have some words of advice for applicants: First, dress appropriately.

During summer, when the harvest of fruits and vegetables is in full swing in California's Central Valley, temperatures hover in the triple digits. Heat exhaustion is one of the reasons farm labor consistently makes the Bureau of Labor Statistics' top ten list of the nation's most dangerous jobs.

Second, expect long days. Growers have a small window to pick fruit before it is overripe.

And don't count on a big paycheck. Farm workers are excluded from federal overtime provisions, and small farms don't even have to pay the minimum wage. Fifteen states don't require farm labor to be covered by workers compensation laws.

Any takers?

"The reality is farmworkers who are here today aren't taking any American jobs away. They work in often unbearable situations," Rodriguez said. "I don't think there will be many takers, but the offer is being made. Let's see what happens."

To highlight how unlikely the prospect of Americans lining up to pick strawberries or grapes, Comedy Central's "Colbert Report" plans to feature the "Take Our Jobs" campaign on July 8.

The campaign is being played for jokes, but the need to secure the right to work for immigrants who are here is serious business, said Michael Rubio, supervisor in Kern County, one of the biggest ag producing counties in the nation.

"Our county, our economy, rely heavily on the work of immigrant and unauthorized workers," he said. "I would encourage all our national leaders to come visit Kern County and to spend one day, or even half a day, in the shoes of these farm workers."

Hopefully, the message will go down easier with some laughs, said Manuel Cunha, president of the California grower association Nisei Farmers League, who was not a part of the campaign.

"If you don't add some humor to this, it's enough to get you drinking, and I don't mean Pepsi," Cunha said, dismissing the idea that Americans would take up the farm workers' offer.

California's agriculture industry launched a similar campaign in 1998, hoping to recruit welfare recipients and unemployed workers to work on farms, he said. Three people showed up.

"Give us a legal, qualified work force. Right now, farmers don't know from day to day if they're going to get hammered by ICE," he said, referring to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "What happens to my labor pool?"

His organization supports AgJobs, a bill currently in the Senate which would allow those who have worked in U.S. agriculture for at least 150 days in the previous two years to get legal status.

The bill has been proposed in various forms since the late 1990s, with backing from the United Farm Workers of America and other farming groups, but has never passed.


Hopefully this is not a repost.

But apparently there are lots of seasonal farm jobs to be had. This organization is working to make them available to more people.
 

rudder

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You know... if these people did not allow themselves to work at slave wages... the agricultural industry would have been forced to mechanize. Would strawberries be more expensive... slightly.

Anyway... I challenge the illegals near me to work for the going wage and not undercut local workers.... especially the ones in the construction industry.
 

nick1985

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Are they immigrant farm workers or illegal immigrant farm workers?


If its the latter, I have a challenge for them. Follow the fucking law like everybody else coming into this country.
 

PieIsAwesome

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I saw this a few days ago and filled out the online form to see what would happen and so far nothing.
 

dahunan

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You know... if these people did not allow themselves to work at slave wages... the agricultural industry would have been forced to mechanize. Would strawberries be more expensive... slightly.

Anyway... I challenge the illegals near me to work for the going wage and not undercut local workers.... especially the ones in the construction industry.


what in the fuck kind of fucking insanity are you talking about??

challenge the employers to pay a legal wage...

Would strawberries be more expensive... slightly.
slightly.. WOW

Is that a prescription you are taking or just Rush Limbaugh
 

dahunan

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According to the Labor Department, three out of four farm workers were born abroad, and more than half are illegal immigrants.


^^^^^^^^^^^^ United States Labor Dept ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"more than half are illegal immigrants"
 

Infohawk

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I'm fine with fruit costing more or mechanization playing a larger role as rudder suggested. People might want to do the work if the labor market had a floor. Thanks to illegals, it doesn't.
 

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This has been going around over in OT for a few days as well.

My reply here is the same:

If the illegals would keep to the farm jobs then go home when the season is over...fine. As much as I dislike illegal immigration, they're right...MOST Americans don't want the farm labor jobs...and definitely don't want to do the work for the pay that the illegals get for their labor.

Since the illegals do NOT stay on the farms, but instead end up in any industry where they can find jobs, often displacing legal immigrants and US citizens, their argument is not valid.

Those farm labor jobs used to be held by US citizens. They were the bread & butter for lots of people, especially during the "dust bowl days" of the 1930's and 40's. The farmers simply don't want to pay the kind of decent wage that would attract non-immigrants. It's very true that most farmers operate on a very thin margin...often having to sell their crops for less than it cost them to produce.
It's the big agribusinesses that benefit the most from the illegal labor because they operate at a higher profit margin, usually collect far more federal funds in government subsidies, and are politically connected to the point where a minor immigration bust doesn't hurt them in the slightest.
 

rudder

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what in the fuck kind of fucking insanity are you talking about??

challenge the employers to pay a legal wage...


slightly.. WOW

Is that a prescription you are taking or just Rush Limbaugh

What does rush limbaugh have to do with anything? Apparently you listen to him more than I do if you heard him talking about mechanization. No this is common sense and knowing what mechanization has done for the cotton industry in my part of the country. Sorry if you prefer people live one step above indentured servitude. As long as people are willing to work for those slave wages... farms will pay them. Had they been forced to mechanize decades ago... our economy would have adjusted.

And why challenge the employers to pay a legal wage? Illegals work willingly for these low wages. They undercut the local work force. The onus is on them. The reward of cheap labor it worth the risk.
 

dammitgibs

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You know who worked in the fields before migrants? High school kids. Though these days it would probably be tough to find enough that would be willing to do it.
 

SP33Demon

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If you really give a sht, then push for legal wage laws to be changed to impose stiffer penalties on agribusiness for hiring@slave wages. It takes two to tango. I love how everyone is quick to blame the illegals when farmers are just as much to blame. It's simple, don't hire them and they'll go away. Greed is a helluva drug.
 

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I'm fine with fruit costing more or mechanization playing a larger role as rudder suggested. People might want to do the work if the labor market had a floor. Thanks to illegals, it doesn't.

I am happy to allow employers to pay market wages instead of the federal government dictating wages.
 
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Some liberals here supporting what is effectively slavery...who would have thunk?

These people deserve fair wages and a humane working conditions. If they're here illegally...find a way to get them work visas. The status quo is unacceptable.
 

theeedude

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How about this, conservatives get 1 million rednecks to sign 10 year contracts to work the hot, polluted central valley fields for minimum wage and no benefits, and liberals agree to deport all illegals?
 

Zedtom

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Rural unemployment is high but jobs in the cities are where the needs are most severe. The challenge would be more realistic if anyone who is working construction that is being paid off the books, (cash with no deductions), would give up their job to a documented citizen who would do the same work with adjustments in gross pay to account for social security and taxes.

Nobody is going to do that, and the employers would say no friggin' way.
 

Jaskalas

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How about this, conservatives get 1 million rednecks to sign 10 year contracts to work the hot, polluted central valley fields for minimum wage and no benefits, and liberals agree to deport all illegals?

Hey look, someone who supports shit jobs via funneling them underclass employees to work them.

I, however, would rather see that job be unfilled and replaced with a more expensive one that would attract workers.
 

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How about this, conservatives get 1 million rednecks to sign 10 year contracts to work the hot, polluted central valley fields for minimum wage and no benefits, and liberals agree to deport all illegals?

How about liberals deport all *illegals* because they are in fact *illegal*???
 

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Immigrant farm workers' challenge: Take our jobs


No. Thank. You.


How about liberals deport all *illegals* because they are in fact *illegal*???

Around 45% of 'illegals' enter the country legally. How about we establish a system through Federal legislation which properly accounts for their status, work history, et. al. ... ?



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How about this, conservatives get 1 million rednecks to sign 10 year contracts to work the hot, polluted central valley fields for minimum wage and no benefits, and liberals agree to deport all illegals?
How about this...around 150 years ago, Northerners get 1 million damn Yankees to sign 10 year contracts to work the hot cotton fields in the South for nothing except a little food in their belly and a roof over their head, and Southerners agree to send their slaves back to Africa? How is what you're saying today any different?

This is about people...real life human beings. Not insignificant indentured servants who only exist so that you can buy cheaper vegetables. :thumbsdown:
 
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