Imagine if Trump runs again (2024) and wins, what do you think will happen?

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Muse

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The Pandemic likely cost Trump his office.
It can also give it back to him if we are not careful.

Americans like to blame the sitting President for how they are feeling. And in 2021 Americans are not feeling so great. Still reeling from the ongoing pandemic, the resulting instability would allow any incumbent to be defeated out of sheer angst. The details are almost immaterial. Do people feel safe / happy? No? Goodbye incumbent.

America has 3 years to turn it around or risk a new Republican President.
ANY American who imagines for a moment that things would go better with Trump in office than ANY Democrat has shit for brains. Edit: I should say "ANY American" except a 1%er, although I can't imagine how they'd feel their life is really better when their fellow Americans suffer while they have even more money.
 

fskimospy

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The Pandemic likely cost Trump his office.
It can also give it back to him if we are not careful.

Americans like to blame the sitting President for how they are feeling. And in 2021 Americans are not feeling so great. Still reeling from the ongoing pandemic, the resulting instability would allow any incumbent to be defeated out of sheer angst. The details are almost immaterial. Do people feel safe / happy? No? Goodbye incumbent.

America has 3 years to turn it around or risk a new Republican President.
I see people say this a lot but I’ve never seen any evidence for it. Generally speaking world leaders saw their approval IMPROVE during the pandemic so if anything it probably helped him.

Now you could say his incompetence dealing with it cost him the election but, well, being bad at being president does that.
 
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Zorba

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Even if Biden turns into a vegetable, why would 8 million people flip to just vote for the orange baby? Biden can start a war with France and no reason to not vote for him over Trumpity Dumpity
Because it isn't 8 million, it's about 40,000 people, because we have a fucked up system.
 
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JEDIYoda

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If Trump were to be elected again --- we would become a 3rd world country! We also would become another Nazi Germany only rebranded!
We would have no friends in the world arena...as if we do now!!
Technology has advanced so much that what kept or made the Germans unable to attack us directly during ww2 is a mute point!@!!
There i quite literally nothing stopping Rusia or China for that matter from attacking the US!! We are so spread out militarily we are actually impotent....except for our nuclear capabilities!!'
Trump as President will walk all over the constitution and human rights!!
 

Zorba

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People saying Biden is so bad crack me up.

Did he become responsible for hundreds of thousands of dead Americans suddenly and I missed it? Is he on tape trying to extort foreign leaders or pressuring state officials "to find" just 11k odd more votes? Biden gets bashed for giving America the truth, and people pine for the serial liar with 30,573 false or misleading claims to his name over four years. Funny shit.
People expect democrats to solve all problems or they are a failure. Republicans have no such expectations.
 

MichaelMay

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If Trump were to be elected again --- we would become a 3rd world country! We also would become another Nazi Germany only rebranded!
We would have no friends in the world arena...as if we do now!!
Technology has advanced so much that what kept or made the Germans unable to attack us directly during ww2 is a mute point!@!!
There i quite literally nothing stopping Rusia or China for that matter from attacking the US!! We are so spread out militarily we are actually impotent....except for our nuclear capabilities!!'
Trump as President will walk all over the constitution and human rights!!

Actually, with hypersonic missiles there is nothing stopping even NK or France from attacking the US before a radar warning and the US sattelite system wouldn't report it until three hours after it had hit.
 

fskimospy

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Actually, with hypersonic missiles there is nothing stopping even NK or France from attacking the US before a radar warning and the US sattelite system wouldn't report it until three hours after it had hit.
It’s not like that really matters though. We don’t need advance warning to retaliate.
 
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MtnMan

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An all out assault on Democrats?
War, or possible wars. Maybe a world war?
Dismantling of the US political process, system?
Dismantling of our institutions?
More Republican Supreme Court Justices?
The end of Ameria as we know it?
Etc..
Wins? That will happen if he gets the nomination. There will be armed conflicts at voting sites, board of election offices and staff will be attacked prior to the election.
 

eelw

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Actually, with hypersonic missiles there is nothing stopping even NK or France from attacking the US before a radar warning and the US sattelite system wouldn't report it until three hours after it had hit.
Well as long the nuclear strikes aren’t too close to the Canadian border, we’ll pickup the remains of the US. India will take over remains of China. Unsure which former Soviet republic will take over Russia.
 

fskimospy

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That's a pretty easy list to make, though I would make a distinction between conservatives and republican's.

Fair enough - I see no coherent goals for Republicans outside of opposing liberals. Well that and tax cuts for rich people.
 

Muse

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Actually, with hypersonic missiles there is nothing stopping even NK or France from attacking the US before a radar warning and the US sattelite system wouldn't report it until three hours after it had hit.
I heard it said decades ago that the hydrogen bomb is "history's exclamation point."

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War, all out war, that is, is no longer tenable. It's "thinkable" but it computes as suicide for the perpetrator because mutually assured destruction.
 

Greenman

Lifer
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Along with financial ruin. If the Chinese nuke us they won't get the trillion dollars we owe them, and half of their cheap crap market will disappear.
 

sportage

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Used to comfort myself with that idea about Cheney. 20 years later the pos is still here.

Yeah, what's up with THAT?
Talk about disparity in the healthcare system.
Somehow, someway, Dick Cheney is still here and gets a new heart or whatever when he needs it. And I fear that Donald Trump probably has the same medical insurance, but it's sure not Obamacare.

Trump Head.jpg
Donald Trump. Age 504. Year 2525.
 

MichaelMay

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I heard it said decades ago that the hydrogen bomb is "history's exclamation point."

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War, all out war, that is, is no longer tenable. It's "thinkable" but it computes as suicide for the perpetrator because mutually assured destruction.

I don't think so, this means a full strike could be made without anyone knowing it until after a complete annihilation of every means of retaliating. All land silos, all subs can be targeted and there is no way to protect against it, hell there would be no warning what so ever until the strike was already done.
 

Muse

Lifer
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I don't think so, this means a full strike could be made without anyone knowing it until after a complete annihilation of every means of retaliating. All land silos, all subs can be targeted and there is no way to protect against it, hell there would be no warning what so ever until the strike was already done.
What makes you think this is possible?

How do you take out all subs? No one knows where most of the nuclear missile firing capable subs are patrolling the oceans AFAIK.

Do you really think any intelligence service knows exactly where all the nuclear weapons systems are and exactly how to take them out in one fell swoop? That's exactly what deterrence is, the inability to do that. AFAIK, that's not in the cards.

And even if it were possible, the nuclear fallout would poison the planet and in unpredictable ways, assuming it was nuclear weapons used to take out the other side's nuclear weapons. The living may well envy the dead.
 

gothuevos

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Our Constitutional Republic will likely end in 2024.

We need to be thinking of what comes after and how to deal with that. Ideas like Balkanization, divorce, etc have some merit but are logistically impossible and would probably involve a ton of bloodshed.

Honestly I don't know what the answer is, other than to endure what appears to be a significant period of authoritarianism in our near future. Will it be our children or children's children that take back the reins? If ever? But yeah, I see no real solutions in the short term.

Sure, GOTV and all that, bit realize that moving forward, in many GOP controlled swing states, your vote can simply be tossed out for "reasons.". Enjoy.