"Im with her" slogan with arrow pointing to hillary. Is a crap slogan.

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Are the slogans used by the Clinton campaign good?

  • No they need better ones

  • Yes they are awesome and get people excited.


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Knowing

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Not a whole lot, you appear to be another low information voter who can't be bothered with the facts, let alone bothered to remove your dumb tapatalk signature.
Are you saying that it wouldn't matter that her security hygiene is shit if people in the US weren't aware of it?


I accidentally

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ivwshane

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Are you saying that it wouldn't matter that her security hygiene is shit if people in the US weren't aware of it?


I accidentally

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I watched a congressman on live tv give away information about where a CIA base of operations was. Not two shits were given. I witnessed the white house out a covert agent and a president commute the sentence of one of the perpetrators and not two shits were given. I watched a president purposely go against congresses wishes whose policies also included selling crack to Americans and not two shits were given.

So forgive me if I don't give two shits about a technophobe who wasn't smart enough to understand the potential risk of her actions. Forgive me if I refuse to focus on a symptom and instead focus on the actual issue itself that of our government not having systems in place to allow officials to do their jobs efficiently and securely.
 

Knowing

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In the military we had those systems in place. Dunno why the state department couldn't get it together a decade later. The VA is still awful at basically everything.

You want to elect the woman who had the problem and lied about it to fix it.

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buckshot24

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I watched a congressman on live tv give away information about where a CIA base of operations was. Not two shits were given. I witnessed the white house out a covert agent and a president commute the sentence of one of the perpetrators and not two shits were given. I watched a president purposely go against congresses wishes whose policies also included selling crack to Americans and not two shits were given.
You didn't care about these cases?
 

buckshot24

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In the military we had those systems in place. Dunno why the state department couldn't get it together a decade later. The VA is still awful at basically everything.

You want to elect the woman who had the problem and lied about it to fix it.

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He doesn't care what she did. He's a liberal democrat and he will circle the wagons no matter what.
 

FerrelGeek

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Not really disagreeing with you on this as a principle. I'd readily consider a good, competent woman as long as I agreed with her vision for the country. I don't be believe that Hillary is good or competent and I definitely don't like her vision for the country.

Funny I don't have a problem with a woman running just because she competent and a woman. Why not try a different perspective.
I once worked for a large (fortune 50 company) and there were occasional roles that would come up and the only skill you needed was organization and communication ability. Everything else was acquired thru training. The Manager of was a woman who was all about opportunity for women. For years she only hired young women, they were good candidates and did good work but it was odd. People started talking and even the dozen or so women on her team started to say its time to get some older people and men. She had ultimately started hiring more diverse candidates. I don't think voting for a woman to be President for the sake of getting a different perspective is strange at all.
 

jackstar7

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Not really disagreeing with you on this as a principle. I'd readily consider a good, competent woman as long as I agreed with her vision for the country. I don't be believe that Hillary is good or competent and I definitely don't like her vision for the country.

Putting aside her "goodness" or competence, what about her vision doesn't work for you?

What competing vision works better?
 

hal2kilo

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Feb 24, 2009
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Say what you will about Trump, but he has the whole branding thing down. He mail fall well short of Hillary on every other metric, but he knows how to manage a brand and cater to the (often ill-informed) will of the masses.

This is Hillary's election to lose - if only by being too cautious with Trump. She needs to give him the same treatment that LBJ gave Goldwater with the "Daisy Girl" ad - something that she is undoubtedly familiar with.

I think she displayed that she's not too cautious with her speech on "Foreign Policy". She sucked everyone in with the bait and switch and then hammered away. Surprised the crap out of me.

You go girl.

Edit: Oh yea, did not vote due to only troll choices to make.
 

MovingTarget

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I think she displayed that she's not too cautious with her speech on "Foreign Policy". She sucked everyone in with the bait and switch and then hammered away. Surprised the crap out of me.

You go girl.

Edit: Oh yea, did not vote due to only troll choices to make.

True, but a speech ≠ a campaign or a slogan. I thought that speech was a breath of fresh air, but that needs to be something that is not only consistently applied by Hillary to Trump, but distilled down into something shorter and easily repeatable by the lowest common denominator of our electorate.
 

Jhhnn

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After Obama the Republicans don't have a monopoly on war in even this generation. Where the criticism of her email practices came from is irrelevant, she was wrong knowingly and intentionally. Not only that, she's lied about it repeatedly. She hasn't worked hard enough to successfully manage two devices or two coups.

The only way I vote for the Republican candidate is if Hillary is on the other side. It would be my first time voting for a major party candidate bee-tee-dubs. So you can stop with the subtle Trump bashing.

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So, you basically agree that Hillary's hawkishness won't be an issue because the opposition is more hawkish. But you'll continue to tear her down over it in a trollish fashion.

You then go on to claim that her missteps wrt email are sufficient reason to vote for the absurdity candidate instead.
 

buckshot24

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So, you basically agree that Hillary's hawkishness won't be an issue because the opposition is more hawkish. But you'll continue to tear her down over it in a trollish fashion.

You then go on to claim that her missteps wrt email are sufficient reason to vote for the absurdity candidate instead.
The reality you've constructed in your head isn't real and you can't hold people to it.
 

Jhhnn

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True, but a speech ≠ a campaign or a slogan. I thought that speech was a breath of fresh air, but that needs to be something that is not only consistently applied by Hillary to Trump, but distilled down into something shorter and easily repeatable by the lowest common denominator of our electorate.

Hillary can't win those people. They're already birther/benghazi believers. They're outrage addicts whose intellects have been poisoned.
 

Jhhnn

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The reality you've constructed in your head isn't real and you can't hold people to it.

The remarks weren't addressed to you. It's the best I can understand Knowing's version of reality, such as it is.
 

Hugo Drax

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True, but a speech ≠ a campaign or a slogan. I thought that speech was a breath of fresh air, but that needs to be something that is not only consistently applied by Hillary to Trump, but distilled down into something shorter and easily repeatable by the lowest common denominator of our electorate.

She is not even trying. "Im with her" is a selfish slogan I guess she cannot think beyond herself so any slogan would reflect this.

She needs to try harder, I wonder if all the ass kissers she is surrounded with were all afraid to tell her "Im with her" sucks ass as a slogan and they all just nodded and clapped when she unveiled this turd of a slogan.
 

soundforbjt

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She is not even trying. "Im with her" is a selfish slogan I guess she cannot think beyond herself so any slogan would reflect this.

She needs to try harder, I wonder if all the ass kissers she is surrounded with were all afraid to tell her "Im with her" sucks ass as a slogan and they all just nodded and clapped when she unveiled this turd of a slogan.

Yeah, she should've used your first picks great slogan Hillary! .
At least hers is original and not "borrowed" from Ronnie.
 

marincounty

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The exact same thing. Which makes it even more amazing that "Bush did it" was their go-to excuse for everything.

Bush screwed up everything he touched. The economy, Iraq, etc...
Name one thing Bush did that wasn't a disaster.
Obama is a fantastic president- when compared to Bush.

What was Bush's slogan, Mission Accomplished or was it Vote for the Drunk?
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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It was either that or:

"Because, Vagina."
lmao! +1

Because for a lot of Americans its not so great. For people like Hillary Clinton and Trump, America is super great.

For the student with 80K in debt with college loans working a Mcjob, its not great.

there is a reason lots of young americans are voting for Sanders.

This slogan just fails.
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The long version is: I'm with her (unless she goes to federal prison for corruption.)

That was a good slogan as well. Somehow Clinton seems to be having a difficult time finding a good slogan for her campaign.
Yeah, the North Dakota brand canned weasel people had the exact same problem. Hmmm.
 

Knowing

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Bush screwed up everything he touched. The economy, Iraq, etc...
Name one thing Bush did that wasn't a disaster.
Obama is a fantastic president- when compared to Bush.

What was Bush's slogan, Mission Accomplished or was it Vote for the Drunk?
Obama kept doing the things Bush did in almost every aspect you mentioned. This is precisely the reason I'm not a big fan of O.

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Jhhnn

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I don't believe that the slogan will matter much at all. It's clear from their choice of Trump that the Repub base is begging for an attitude adjustment. In that, Hillary will do her best to deliver an epic thrashing & will very likely deliver, too.

The lies & contradictions of modern Republicanism have finally boiled over into this mess, their mess. It's really between them. Most of America already sees Trump for President as absurd even if they don't care much for Hillary atm.

I'm sooo looking forward to the results of the conventions and some structured debates between the candidates. As we saw with the Benghazi hearings, she's very cool under fire. Donald? Not so much. She can do a lot to win people's confidence that's been eroded by decades of groundless attack & innuendo. The bullshit has a lot more air time than she ever got. Donald can't be anybody but himself, an absurd candidate. I'm sure he'll convince millions to finally see it that way.