I'm stupid and I still can't figure this damn thing out

Ns1

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So I have a shitload of pics on an external hd

The plan was to move it all into iphoto, organize that shit, and then move it all back.


Whenever I try to drag something into my HD, it says

"the item could not be moved because ... cannot be modified"

errrrr wtf?

Toned down the title a little.

- Apple Mod Aphex
 

aphex

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OSX can read NTFS natively but not write to it, but if your dumping pix from the External HD, it should work. Only Fat32 is natively supported by both Windows and OSX.

There are solutions out there to read HFS+ in Windows and NTFS is OSX, but all of the free ones suck.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: aphex
OSX can read NTFS natively but not write to it, but if your dumping pix from the External HD, it should work. Only Fat32 is natively supported by both Windows and OSX.

There are solutions out there to read HFS+ in Windows and NTFS is OSX, but all of the free ones suck.

doh


:(
 

TheStu

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Originally posted by: aphex
OSX can read NTFS natively but not write to it, but if your dumping pix from the External HD, it should work. Only Fat32 is natively supported by both Windows and OSX.

There are solutions out there to read HFS+ in Windows and NTFS is OSX, but all of the free ones suck.

NTFS3G+MacFUSE works great. I can even format drives as NTFS now.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: aphex
OSX can read NTFS natively but not write to it, but if your dumping pix from the External HD, it should work. Only Fat32 is natively supported by both Windows and OSX.

There are solutions out there to read HFS+ in Windows and NTFS is OSX, but all of the free ones suck.

NTFS3G+MacFUSE works great. I can even format drives as NTFS now.
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Tyranicus

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Yeah NTFS-3G is almost perfect. The one thing about it that bothers me is that I have never been able to successfully access a NTFS-3G drive over a network.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: aphex
OSX can read NTFS natively but not write to it, but if your dumping pix from the External HD, it should work. Only Fat32 is natively supported by both Windows and OSX.

There are solutions out there to read HFS+ in Windows and NTFS is OSX, but all of the free ones suck.

NTFS3G+MacFUSE works great. I can even format drives as NTFS now.

I could not get that working for the life of me. That plus the questionable reliability kept me at bay (I wanted to use the HDD as my remote backup, so I could access the data at home or work, and still support gigantic 4GB+ files). Has this improved in the past couple of months?
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: aphex
OSX can read NTFS natively but not write to it, but if your dumping pix from the External HD, it should work. Only Fat32 is natively supported by both Windows and OSX.

There are solutions out there to read HFS+ in Windows and NTFS is OSX, but all of the free ones suck.

NTFS3G+MacFUSE works great. I can even format drives as NTFS now.

I could not get that working for the life of me. That plus the questionable reliability kept me at bay (I wanted to use the HDD as my remote backup, so I could access the data at home or work, and still support gigantic 4GB+ files). Has this improved in the past couple of months?
I've never had any issue getting it to work. As for reliability, what issues did you encounter? I haven't had any reliability issues, but then again it may be something you're trying to do that I am not.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: aphex
OSX can read NTFS natively but not write to it, but if your dumping pix from the External HD, it should work. Only Fat32 is natively supported by both Windows and OSX.

There are solutions out there to read HFS+ in Windows and NTFS is OSX, but all of the free ones suck.

NTFS3G+MacFUSE works great. I can even format drives as NTFS now.

I could not get that working for the life of me. That plus the questionable reliability kept me at bay (I wanted to use the HDD as my remote backup, so I could access the data at home or work, and still support gigantic 4GB+ files). Has this improved in the past couple of months?
I've never had any issue getting it to work. As for reliability, what issues did you encounter? I haven't had any reliability issues, but then again it may be something you're trying to do that I am not.

I had some issues with it as well. It worked, don't get me wrong. But I kept having issues with both speed and disconnecting the drives. After it was "sucessfully" disconnected, I was never able to mount them again without quite a bit of work.
 

TheStu

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Well, admittedly, most of the time I connect to my Windows box over the network, so it isn't an issue. I just formatted my jump drive NTFS though, and in addition to needing to make sure that your drive is safely disconnected in Windows before connecting it in OS X, the file copy is quite slow... like really slow.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: randomlinh
I could not get that working for the life of me. That plus the questionable reliability kept me at bay (I wanted to use the HDD as my remote backup, so I could access the data at home or work, and still support gigantic 4GB+ files). Has this improved in the past couple of months?
I've never had any issue getting it to work. As for reliability, what issues did you encounter? I haven't had any reliability issues, but then again it may be something you're trying to do that I am not.
I should say I did sorta get it working, it was piss slow so I just figure I did something wrong. Mostly trying to do backups w/ chronosync.

On top of that, just reading it seemed people were having reliability issues with it, so I gave up on it. It wasn't vital, I could always boot up Parallels and connect through that (which uses NTFS3G somehow I think, and may have been part of why I had trouble getting things to work).


 

Ns1

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What do you guys with both windows + osx do? The solution presented above? Different external HD's? Format your hd into fat32?
 

TheStu

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Originally posted by: Ns1
What do you guys with both windows + osx do? The solution presented above? Different external HD's? Format your hd into fat32?

For me, I have a Windows desktop and a Mac laptop, so the solution is obvious, put all my hard drives into the desktop, and connect to it via the network. Wireless works fine for streaming, but for large file transfers I wire them up.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: Ns1
What do you guys with both windows + osx do? The solution presented above? Different external HD's? Format your hd into fat32?

For me, I have a Windows desktop and a Mac laptop, so the solution is obvious, put all my hard drives into the desktop, and connect to it via the network. Wireless works fine for streaming, but for large file transfers I wire them up.

That's my setup too, so I'll try that out and see how I like it. Thanks.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: Ns1
What do you guys with both windows + osx do? The solution presented above? Different external HD's? Format your hd into fat32?

networked file share, heh. Or, FAT32 and deal w/ the limitations. Depends on what the situation is.
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: Ns1
What do you guys with both windows + osx do? The solution presented above? Different external HD's? Format your hd into fat32?

NAS connected to my router. Internally the NAS formats the drives as EXT3 but my Windows and Mac machines don't care. Not sure what the protocol that is uses, SAMBA perhaps? Meh, I'm not a network guru...
 

Nothinman

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If it looks like a Windows share then the protocol is SMB/CIFS and it most likely uses Samba for that.
 

TheStu

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You can get Remote Desktop Connection 2 from Microsoft, it works in OS X natively.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: TheStu
You can get Remote Desktop Connection 2 from Microsoft, it works in OS X natively.

great, TheStu you are TheMan

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