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Im sorry, but due to the increaseing complaints from noobies, i have to just post this:
1. Just because you get a EVGA 680i board does not mean you will get super overclocks:
2. ALL cpu's are not made the same, so just because you go out and pick one up at frys, or newegg, does not mean that cpu will oc as well as everyone else who brags about high oc's
3. Memory and Power Supply plays big roles on overclocking as well. Im sorry but if you want to oc, look at decient memory and decient power supplies. We have tons of members that can assist you in picking out a good combo.
4. People have no concept in voltage. Im sorry, because you see a screenie in which you see a 4ghz C2D running at 1.6+ v does not mean you can do the same.
Everytime you increase the voltage on a CPU, you in essense increase the heat load on that processor.
Myth: Tuniq is as good as water so i can push my chip as hard as water on the tuniq:
Truth: NO, good luck getting these temps on a tuniq sorry pal, you just majorly overshotted:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Clipboard02.jpg
Myth: nVmonitor is accurate so i can go by that on my temp sensor.
Truth: nVmonitor after numerous discussions over on evga forum is in fact accurate! But it measures at the bottom of the CPU near all the resistors. That is why this area gets hot even with water.
GO by coretemp: concensus says it is safe for a load temp to be around 70C. If core temp is reading below 70C on a FULL LOAD, i mean 100% your safe on a C2D.
Myth: a QX6700 or Quad core should put out the same amount of heat. So why cant i just use a tuniq and get a nice 3.6ghz oc?
Truth: A QX or Quad core is 2 C2D's stamped on the same PCB. So how can it generate the same amount of heat when all 4 cores are loaded? These girls need monster cooling.
Myth: TEC aircooling dominates! Monsoon Vigor owns!!
Truth: These guys dont top much better agaisnt a tuniq:
Proof:
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2921&p=5
The performance lines drawn overlap a tuniq. WOW, thats a great improvement, at the cost of using more electricity then the tuniq. TEC units will draw more electricity then AIR/Water. So dont get in the type:
Unknown variable:
As i have told countless members. I and all of XS Forums has no clue on how the op got 200mhz higher on that cooler. We assume something was limiting him b4 he swaped setups, or, his psu was on the fritz and somehow managed to get a clean source of power temoprary.
Anyhow: look at what happens on XS Forums when you even mention aircooled tecs:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132047
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131378
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=137845
Please learn about TEC's if your going to use them. The worst mistake you can do is try something half assed without studying.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38367
Lastly: If any of you guys need cooling advice, Anandtech has a WONDERFUL case and cooling section. Thats why its there, for all the case and cooling questions. So please feel free to post there. We have cooling experts in all area's Water, AIR, PASSIVE.
Also: Please use the search feature. Chances are if your having an issue, someone else on this forum had the saem issue, and a thread has already started and is ongoing. Its too much working typing something more then once.
Sorry for the rant, just want to give out a headsup to the noobies in cooling and ocing. Sometimes they just ask questions which would only take 3 sec in google to find out.
if theres more please feel free to post. Some of these questions about cooling in this section is getting out of hand. Its getting very lonely over at case and cooling. And i took a shower i promise!
1. Just because you get a EVGA 680i board does not mean you will get super overclocks:
2. ALL cpu's are not made the same, so just because you go out and pick one up at frys, or newegg, does not mean that cpu will oc as well as everyone else who brags about high oc's
3. Memory and Power Supply plays big roles on overclocking as well. Im sorry but if you want to oc, look at decient memory and decient power supplies. We have tons of members that can assist you in picking out a good combo.
4. People have no concept in voltage. Im sorry, because you see a screenie in which you see a 4ghz C2D running at 1.6+ v does not mean you can do the same.
Everytime you increase the voltage on a CPU, you in essense increase the heat load on that processor.
Myth: Tuniq is as good as water so i can push my chip as hard as water on the tuniq:
Truth: NO, good luck getting these temps on a tuniq sorry pal, you just majorly overshotted:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Clipboard02.jpg
Myth: nVmonitor is accurate so i can go by that on my temp sensor.
Truth: nVmonitor after numerous discussions over on evga forum is in fact accurate! But it measures at the bottom of the CPU near all the resistors. That is why this area gets hot even with water.
GO by coretemp: concensus says it is safe for a load temp to be around 70C. If core temp is reading below 70C on a FULL LOAD, i mean 100% your safe on a C2D.
Myth: a QX6700 or Quad core should put out the same amount of heat. So why cant i just use a tuniq and get a nice 3.6ghz oc?
Truth: A QX or Quad core is 2 C2D's stamped on the same PCB. So how can it generate the same amount of heat when all 4 cores are loaded? These girls need monster cooling.
Myth: TEC aircooling dominates! Monsoon Vigor owns!!
Truth: These guys dont top much better agaisnt a tuniq:
Proof:
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2921&p=5
The performance lines drawn overlap a tuniq. WOW, thats a great improvement, at the cost of using more electricity then the tuniq. TEC units will draw more electricity then AIR/Water. So dont get in the type:
Unknown variable:
As i have told countless members. I and all of XS Forums has no clue on how the op got 200mhz higher on that cooler. We assume something was limiting him b4 he swaped setups, or, his psu was on the fritz and somehow managed to get a clean source of power temoprary.
Anyhow: look at what happens on XS Forums when you even mention aircooled tecs:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132047
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131378
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=137845
Please learn about TEC's if your going to use them. The worst mistake you can do is try something half assed without studying.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38367
Lastly: If any of you guys need cooling advice, Anandtech has a WONDERFUL case and cooling section. Thats why its there, for all the case and cooling questions. So please feel free to post there. We have cooling experts in all area's Water, AIR, PASSIVE.
Also: Please use the search feature. Chances are if your having an issue, someone else on this forum had the saem issue, and a thread has already started and is ongoing. Its too much working typing something more then once.
Sorry for the rant, just want to give out a headsup to the noobies in cooling and ocing. Sometimes they just ask questions which would only take 3 sec in google to find out.
if theres more please feel free to post. Some of these questions about cooling in this section is getting out of hand. Its getting very lonely over at case and cooling. And i took a shower i promise!
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