I'm sorry, but we can't get your meds. Federal policy you know.

[Hayabusa Rider]

No where in your link does it say they are bringing new regulations. In fact all it says is they are enforcing current regulations.

"The Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has been stepping up its quality enforcement efforts"

Stepping up does not = new, it means they are doing their job.

There has never been a limit on non controlled drug production before. Now we practioners and patients have to deal with government created shortages. Lets hear you explain how widespread medication shortages are good for them.

 

[Vette73]

A quick Google search for "cytarabine production" turns up:

http://www.hematology.org/News/2011/6634.aspx



http://community.wegohealth.com/group/bloodcancers/forum/topics/cytarabine-shortage-impacting

But... but... but... FDA!!! Regulations!!! OBAMACARE!!!!


/Hybu

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A quick Google search for "cytarabine production" turns up:

http://www.hematology.org/News/2011/6634.aspx



http://community.wegohealth.com/group/bloodcancers/forum/topics/cytarabine-shortage-impacting

Why was there an ingredient shortage?

 

[Vette73]

There has never been a limit on non controlled drug production before. Now we practioners and patients have to deal with government created shortages. Lets hear you explain how widespread medication shortages are good for them.

There still is not limit. AGAIN!!! I worked in the places I know how it works. The drug makers tell the FDA what our machines can do safely. They look at our data and either agree or not. If we want to do more then we have to prove its safe at the new limits. You know the FDAs job.

You're the one that said "instituting regulations". You have still not backed that up.
This is not a new regulation and as someone linked to even a FDA issue but a drug maker one.

 

[senseamp]

No. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid built a time machine and went back to 2005 to kill old people by destroying bad drugs.

And Weiner.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

But... but... but... FDA!!! Regulations!!! OBAMACARE!!!!


/Hybu

Ahh thats it. You approve of anything because it might reflect badly on what you want. Since you have fallen off your mental tricycle why don't you read some FDA threads here and show where I said it should be done away with? That should be good for a laugh.

You are a hack. We get that now.

 

[nobodyknows]

Why was there an ingredient shortage?

You seem to kinow everything else, so why don't you tell us?

 

[Vette73]

Ahh thats it. You approve of anything because it might reflect badly on what you want. Since you have fallen off your mental tricycle why don't you read some FDA threads here and show where I said it should be done away with? That should be good for a laugh.

You are a hack. We get that now.

You are the one claiming "instituting regulations" and limits but have still not backed those claims up.

 

[JSt0rm]

haya hates any regulation of his industry. He hates the idea he will have to give healthcare to the masses. He hates the idea that single payer healthcare is our future. He likes growing healthcare costs as that potentially puts more money in his pocket. So any thread started about healthcare by haya should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You seem to kinow everything else, so why don't you tell us?

You tend to notice things that keep you from doing your job. Historically there three main reasons for material shortages. In no particular order, patent suits, regulatory issues and stuff breaks.

 

[Vette73]

You tend to notice things that keep you from doing your job. Historically there three main reasons for material shortages. In no particular order, patent suits, regulatory issues and stuff breaks.

Still waiting for you to back up all your wild claims.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

haya hates any regulation of his industry. He hates the idea he will have to give healthcare to the masses. He hates the idea that single payer healthcare is our future. He likes growing healthcare costs as that potentially puts more money in his pocket. So any thread started about healthcare by haya should be taken with a grain of salt.

Show one post where I say there should be no regulation or the Fda should be done away with. One of us is lying, and it's you.

 

[JSt0rm]

Show one post where I say there should be no regulation or the Fda should be done away with. One of us is lying, and it's you.

Ok that one may have been a little over reaching but the other stuff is certainly true

 

[PokerGuy]

If the company did not forsee they would make enough its the Feds fault for holding them to THEIR numbers?

Typical government bureaucrat mentality. Do you think the company has some sort of magic crystal ball that the rest of us don't? No, they estimate and predict. Guess what, sometimes those estimates and predictions are not accurate. <shock>. And when that happens, only an idiot with government mentality would think it's OK for patients to be put at risk just to satisfy some stupid regulation.

 

[JSt0rm]

some stupid regulation.

^ even after all the debacle we have been in, these goons still think regulation is bad. You cant learn these people. They assume they know everything they need to know. Pathetic.

 

[Vette73]

Typical government bureaucrat mentality. Do you think the company has some sort of magic crystal ball that the rest of us don't? No, they estimate and predict. Guess what, sometimes those estimates and predictions are not accurate. <shock>. And when that happens, only an idiot with government mentality would think it's OK for patients to be put at risk just to satisfy some stupid regulation.

AGAIN so you are ok making drugs on machines that have not been tested at that rate or any work done to see if its safe or correct?

And another AGAIN I say that as someone that made the drugs and worked in clean rooms for years. I don't work for the FDA and never have.

And another AGAIN the makers don;t have to make the max of their equipment, they just have to certify that it can make XYZ amounts in ABC timeframe safely. The FDA is not the limit, the makers are.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Insurance companies do not order shutdowns in drug production. There is no "like this".

Yes, you are correct.

There is no "like this", since in the case of insurance, they refuse to provide the coverage to people who are already paying for it.

Thanks for bringing it up.

 

[nobodyknows]

You tend to notice things that keep you from doing your job. Historically there three main reasons for material shortages. In no particular order, patent suits, regulatory issues and stuff breaks.

So in other words, you have nothing but innuendo that goverment regulations had anything to do with the shortage of the drug. That fugures since your original link was nothing but a blog article written by a political motivated person.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Was it the brand name of the generic?

Brand.

Diphenhydramine HCI 25mg - was this always the active ingredient?

 

[JSt0rm]

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Ok that one may have been a little over reaching but the other stuff is certainly true

Better.

If you've read my ideas you'd see that I believe the situation with healthcare is worse than most believe. The problem as I see it is that includes government as well. Consequently healthcare has come down to insurance, and thats really a minor problem being fought for political gain.

I don't see much interest in understanding the system.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'll bookmark that

 

[uclaLabrat]

Bullshit. These are relatively new standards and they are causing more problems then they were intended to resolve. Tell the guy who has epilepsy that it's for his own good. You know you would.

You don't, perchance, happen to know anything about chemistry or biology, do you?

 

[Darwin333]

You don't, perchance, happen to know anything about chemistry or biology, do you?

I think he is a pharmacist, I hope those two subjects would be required learning.

 

[davmat787]

lol, that .gif is hilarious, thx.