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fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate

I have. I grew up on that stuff. I have taken courses in economics, political science and political philosophy. Additionally, I grew up in a right wing Christian conservative family. Instead of trusting all the 'experts' I looked at my own life and realized that the system I live under really sucks, in spite of all the theory saying that it is great. Incentives have been perverted and people are now beyond delusional. I'm a political skeptic, and have taken nothing for granted, including the 'sage' advice of my parents.

In the interest of time I offer you two free book downloads which has more information:

Everyday Anarchy

Practical Anarchy

Well I skimmed through that book to see the part on violence and society (effectively the police powers thing). This book is hilarious. Anyone who has spent any time watching the news from say... Iraq for the last 5 years has seen the effects of anarchy and people taking their self defense and law enforcement into their own hands. Guess what: the result wasn't a reduction in violence there. The whole book appears to be based around making broad conclusions based entirely on theory without even a casual nod to objective evidence to the contrary.

Shocking.

EDIT: Also, they say that the solution to violent crime is to pay money to the person the crime was perpetrated against. Awesome. The author says that a woman who is raped would rather be paid a lot of money by her rapist than to see him jailed so he can't rape her again. This was obviously written by a man who has never known a woman who has been raped.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: necine
I am considering not paying my taxes as a form of civil disobedience. This bailout is the straw... I don't support the bailout, iraq war, infringement on my civil liberties. I think I'm done. Thoughts?

Don't be a fool. You'll just end up being forced to pay more in the long run (your original tax, plus penalties and interest), and possibly serving time.

Gripe, write your Senator or Congressman, kick the dog, cheat on your wife. But PLEASE don't be stupid.
 

shira

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Why have 104 posts been devoted to such a useless topic? If everything really gets bad enough, there will be a revolution. Until then, just pay.
 

brandonb

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Originally posted by: shira
Why have 104 posts been devoted to such a useless topic? If everything really gets bad enough, there will be a revolution. Until then, just pay.

While all the greedy bankers with foreign citizenship just take our billions and run to another country? The process repeats itself every 60-70 years
 
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Oh shut the fuck up with this bullshit.

You want to stop paying taxes because 1 you don't use their services and/or 2 it was a law that was going to end or w/e are both fucking stupid.

If you don't want to use your head, fine then don't. Do some Google searching to see how far people have gotten without paying taxes. Or just stop paying and when the IRS comes knocking at dinner with the family telling you how you haven't paid taxes in x years and owe y amount of money with interest have fun. You don't want to pay taxes? Okay fine then you have 3 options. First is stop paying, and end up oweing more and thrown in jail. Great idea. Second move to some tax free country and see what that's like for you. Make sure to update this thread when you get robbed/threatened/held up at gunpoint/you or a family member dies due to violence/guns are getting shot in the streets while you try to sleep/etc. Third is live "off the grid", which means solar power, well water, no fire/police, no other utilities (cable/phone/internet because the government oversees regulations on all of that).

Grow the eff up and stop listening to your hippie friends....
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: shira
Why have 104 posts been devoted to such a useless topic? If everything really gets bad enough, there will be a revolution. Until then, just pay.

While all the greedy bankers with foreign citizenship just take our billions and run to another country? The process repeats itself every 60-70 years

It does? When and where did the process repeat the last time?
 

AstroManLuca

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Move to another country. You remove yourself from the country that you dislike and they no longer get any taxes from you.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: shira
Why have 104 posts been devoted to such a useless topic? If everything really gets bad enough, there will be a revolution. Until then, just pay.

How do you know if things haven't gotten bad enough?
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Dissipate

I have. I grew up on that stuff. I have taken courses in economics, political science and political philosophy. Additionally, I grew up in a right wing Christian conservative family. Instead of trusting all the 'experts' I looked at my own life and realized that the system I live under really sucks, in spite of all the theory saying that it is great. Incentives have been perverted and people are now beyond delusional. I'm a political skeptic, and have taken nothing for granted, including the 'sage' advice of my parents.

In the interest of time I offer you two free book downloads which has more information:

Everyday Anarchy

Practical Anarchy

Well I skimmed through that book to see the part on violence and society (effectively the police powers thing). This book is hilarious. Anyone who has spent any time watching the news from say... Iraq for the last 5 years has seen the effects of anarchy and people taking their self defense and law enforcement into their own hands. Guess what: the result wasn't a reduction in violence there. The whole book appears to be based around making broad conclusions based entirely on theory without even a casual nod to objective evidence to the contrary.

Shocking.

EDIT: Also, they say that the solution to violent crime is to pay money to the person the crime was perpetrated against. Awesome. The author says that a woman who is raped would rather be paid a lot of money by her rapist than to see him jailed so he can't rape her again. This was obviously written by a man who has never known a woman who has been raped.

Factions vying for political power is not anarchy, in fact it is the exact opposite of anarchy.

If you want to dispute the books please put the relevant quotes and page numbers.
 

Dissipate

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If I understand the logic of the 'pay your taxes for services' crowd, the conclusion we must come to is that I must pay for a bridge or get thrown in prison while bankers are making out with a trillion bucks, and Bush is causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq. As long as the thieving murderous regime is providing 'services,' gotta pay up!

OMG, if I don't pay I'm not going to have roads or bridges!!
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Dissipate

I have. I grew up on that stuff. I have taken courses in economics, political science and political philosophy. Additionally, I grew up in a right wing Christian conservative family. Instead of trusting all the 'experts' I looked at my own life and realized that the system I live under really sucks, in spite of all the theory saying that it is great. Incentives have been perverted and people are now beyond delusional. I'm a political skeptic, and have taken nothing for granted, including the 'sage' advice of my parents.

In the interest of time I offer you two free book downloads which has more information:

Everyday Anarchy

Practical Anarchy

Well I skimmed through that book to see the part on violence and society (effectively the police powers thing). This book is hilarious. Anyone who has spent any time watching the news from say... Iraq for the last 5 years has seen the effects of anarchy and people taking their self defense and law enforcement into their own hands. Guess what: the result wasn't a reduction in violence there. The whole book appears to be based around making broad conclusions based entirely on theory without even a casual nod to objective evidence to the contrary.

Shocking.

EDIT: Also, they say that the solution to violent crime is to pay money to the person the crime was perpetrated against. Awesome. The author says that a woman who is raped would rather be paid a lot of money by her rapist than to see him jailed so he can't rape her again. This was obviously written by a man who has never known a woman who has been raped.

Factions vying for political power is not anarchy, in fact it is the exact opposite of anarchy.

If you want to dispute the books please put the relevant quotes and page numbers.

I'm not so sure what's confusing about this, but factions vying for power is exactly what you end up with in anarchy. That's sort of the whole problem. When predicting what will happen in anarchy, why don't you take a minute and look at what's really happened in anarchy? Shockingly enough everyone didn't go around making contracts with one another, the guy with a gun started killing people. Anarchy is just as stupid as communism, because both assume people won't break the fundamental rules of the game. And they always, always do.

As for the books, to be honest they read like science fiction novels written by a teenager. Anyone interested, read the section on "rape" in 'practical anarchy' (starting on page 117). Then come back and tell me these people aren't living on the moon.

Then read page 81 where it says "A woman who is raped would usually rather receive $250,000 instead of paying to cage her rapist." Again, moon logic. I know several women who have been raped, they don't want money, they want to feel safe that the guy can't do it to them again. Then of course the book tries to go into some insane work program thing that the rapist will have to do to pay his debt, etc... etc. It's hilarious in it's complete disregard for reality.

(it also raises an interesting point, if someone is wealthy enough they can rape people at will so long as they pay cash for it, the free market at work!)
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
If I understand the logic of the 'pay your taxes for services' crowd, the conclusion we must come to is that I must pay for a bridge or get thrown in prison while bankers are making out with a trillion bucks, and Bush is causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Iraq. As long as the thieving murderous regime is providing 'services,' gotta pay up!

OMG, if I don't pay I'm not going to have roads or bridges!!

As you have been notified of many times, there are certainly places in the world where you can live without the burden of taxation or government interference. I highly encourage you and whoever else shares your views to go start your own John Galt-esque society there. It will probably even work, as this sort of thing tends to work well in small societies where everyone knows everyone else. This won't change the fact that Ayn Rand is a terrible author, but it might make you happier.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
I'm not so sure what's confusing about this, but factions vying for power is exactly what you end up with in anarchy. That's sort of the whole problem. When predicting what will happen in anarchy, why don't you take a minute and look at what's really happened in anarchy? Shockingly enough everyone didn't go around making contracts with one another, the guy with a gun started killing people. Anarchy is just as stupid as communism, because both assume people won't break the fundamental rules of the game. And they always, always do.

And what about those guys in suits from the government? What rules are they playing by? Oh right, they make up the rules everyone has to live by... i.e. Extract $1 trillion of our money to pay of risky bets...

Furthermore, Iraq was never in anarchy by any stretch of the imagination. It went from Saddam's regime to the U.S. regime.

As for the books, to be honest they read like science fiction novels written by a teenager. Anyone interested, read the section on "rape" in 'practical anarchy' (starting on page 117). Then come back and tell me these people aren't living on the moon.

Then read page 81 where it says "A woman who is raped would usually rather receive $250,000 instead of paying to cage her rapist." Again, moon logic. I know several women who have been raped, they don't want money, they want to feel safe that the guy can't do it to them again. Then of course the book tries to go into some insane work program thing that the rapist will have to do to pay his debt, etc... etc. It's hilarious in it's complete disregard for reality.

(it also raises an interesting point, if someone is wealthy enough they can rape people at will so long as they pay cash for it, the free market at work!)

What in the current 'justice' system prevents their rapist from striking again? Correct me if I am way off base here but as I understand it a rapist will go to prison for a certain number of years (even fewer for good behavior) where if he is big enough and tough enough can continue raping, then when he gets out can pretty much travel anywhere he wants and rape again. Do you have any idea how many people in prison are repeat offenders?

Talk about moon logic... Let's put the rapist in a place where he can continue raping, then let him back out where he can continue raping only to end up back into a place where he can rape again.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
As you have been notified of many times, there are certainly places in the world where you can live without the burden of taxation or government interference. I highly encourage you and whoever else shares your views to go start your own John Galt-esque society there. It will probably even work, as this sort of thing tends to work well in small societies where everyone knows everyone else. This won't change the fact that Ayn Rand is a terrible author, but it might make you happier.

For what it is worth, I do actually plan on leaving the U.S. Of course this won't make my family happy, but I am willing to give up wealth & comfort for freedom. In any event, the U.S. is headed towards financial disaster anyways. So I guess you and your comrades can pick up the pieces of whatever is left after the Social Security/Medicare meltdown.

Oddly enough, when I tell a member of the Socialist Horde (such as yourself) that I am leaving, instead of expressing dismay at the reduction of tax revenue for their socialist programs, they actually say it makes them happy. So apparently their socialist views have more to do with making me unhappy than it does with supporting their socialist programs.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: eskimospy
I'm not so sure what's confusing about this, but factions vying for power is exactly what you end up with in anarchy. That's sort of the whole problem. When predicting what will happen in anarchy, why don't you take a minute and look at what's really happened in anarchy? Shockingly enough everyone didn't go around making contracts with one another, the guy with a gun started killing people. Anarchy is just as stupid as communism, because both assume people won't break the fundamental rules of the game. And they always, always do.

And what about those guys in suits from the government? What rules are they playing by? Oh right, they make up the rules everyone has to live by... i.e. Extract $1 trillion of our money to pay of risky bets...

Furthermore, Iraq was never in anarchy by any stretch of the imagination. It went from Saddam's regime to the U.S. regime.

As for the books, to be honest they read like science fiction novels written by a teenager. Anyone interested, read the section on "rape" in 'practical anarchy' (starting on page 117). Then come back and tell me these people aren't living on the moon.

Then read page 81 where it says "A woman who is raped would usually rather receive $250,000 instead of paying to cage her rapist." Again, moon logic. I know several women who have been raped, they don't want money, they want to feel safe that the guy can't do it to them again. Then of course the book tries to go into some insane work program thing that the rapist will have to do to pay his debt, etc... etc. It's hilarious in it's complete disregard for reality.

(it also raises an interesting point, if someone is wealthy enough they can rape people at will so long as they pay cash for it, the free market at work!)

What in the current 'justice' system prevents their rapist from striking again? Correct me if I am way off base here but as I understand it a rapist will go to prison for a certain number of years (even fewer for good behavior) where if he is big enough and tough enough can continue raping, then when he gets out can pretty much travel anywhere he wants and rape again. Do you have any idea how many people in prison are repeat offenders?

Talk about moon logic... Let's put the rapist in a place where he can continue raping, then let him back out where he can continue raping only to end up back into a place where he can rape again.

Yes, Iraq was anarchy. I really don't see how you can dispute that. For large portions of the country there was no recognized or capable governing authority. That's anarchy. It doesn't matter if the US SAYS "oh, we got this". Nobody did and horrible things ensued because this is the real world where when two people have a disagreement they don't go to a magical impartial arbiter in situations like that, one of them kills the other and takes what he wants.

More in the current justice system prevents the rapist from striking again than in your absurd example. (and what's funny is that everything you just said against our current justice system could be equally well applied to your anarchistic one) The guy that wrote those books is quite simply a moron. He's trying to restructure the nature of society based on principles that society doesn't even come close to having. You pay a fine every time you rape or murder someone? Are you kidding me? How long do you think that would last? (interesting business ideas in that though... don't like how well Apple is doing? Just go murder Steve Jobs. Sure you'll pay a murder fine, but what's the big deal? Your profits will more than make up for it.)
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: eskimospy
As you have been notified of many times, there are certainly places in the world where you can live without the burden of taxation or government interference. I highly encourage you and whoever else shares your views to go start your own John Galt-esque society there. It will probably even work, as this sort of thing tends to work well in small societies where everyone knows everyone else. This won't change the fact that Ayn Rand is a terrible author, but it might make you happier.

For what it is worth, I do actually plan on leaving the U.S. Of course this won't make my family happy, but I am willing to give up wealth & comfort for freedom. In any event, the U.S. is headed towards financial disaster anyways. So I guess you and your comrades can pick up the pieces of whatever is left after the Social Security/Medicare meltdown.

Oddly enough, when I tell a member of the Socialist Horde (such as yourself) that I am leaving, instead of expressing dismay at the reduction of tax revenue for their socialist programs, they actually say it makes them happy. So apparently their socialist views have more to do with making me unhappy than it does with supporting their socialist programs.

Huh? Maybe they are glad you're leaving because they are sick of hearing you whine. Or maybe they're happy that you're going to go off and do something that works better for you. Either way your statement isn't even logical. Since your departure would make you happy, if they were more interested in making you miserable wouldn't your newfound happiness make them sad instead of happy?

As far as your predictions of doom and gloom go, save them. People have been predicting the collapse of society for as long as anyone can remember. It's pretty hugely unlikely.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Huh? Maybe they are glad you're leaving because they are sick of hearing you whine. Or maybe they're happy that you're going to go off and do something that works better for you. Either way your statement isn't even logical. Since your departure would make you happy, if they were more interested in making you miserable wouldn't your newfound happiness make them sad instead of happy?

They express glee in the fact that I have to bear a large cost of uprooting myself to avoid their socialist schemes. But if they really cared about their socialist schemes they would see me as a customer who isn't buying anymore, which should make them less happy.

As far as your predictions of doom and gloom go, save them. People have been predicting the collapse of society for as long as anyone can remember. It's pretty hugely unlikely.


This is discussed in this thread which has a link to an article that says otherwise and has numerous facts to back it up:

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Please read the article and explain which fact is incorrect.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Huh? Maybe they are glad you're leaving because they are sick of hearing you whine. Or maybe they're happy that you're going to go off and do something that works better for you. Either way your statement isn't even logical. Since your departure would make you happy, if they were more interested in making you miserable wouldn't your newfound happiness make them sad instead of happy?

They express glee in the fact that I have to bear a large cost of uprooting myself to avoid their socialist schemes. But if they really cared about their socialist schemes they would see me as a customer who isn't buying anymore, which should make them less happy.

As far as your predictions of doom and gloom go, save them. People have been predicting the collapse of society for as long as anyone can remember. It's pretty hugely unlikely.


This is discussed in this thread which has a link to an article that says otherwise and has numerous facts to back it up:

Text

Please read the article and explain which fact is incorrect.

I'm not going to go spend the time to rebut ridiculous editorial pieces. If you think this is true, again by all means go found your Galt's Gulch somewhere and have a great time. As someone said in another thread, we already have one dmcowen here, we don't need two.

If you honestly think people really care about what you do with your life enough that they are more interested in your moving expenses than their retirement and health care you are awfully full of yourself or dangerously paranoid. Something you might want to note: Nobody cares if you're here or not. The thing that makes me happy about you leaving is that hopefully then I won't have to hear you whine or skim though horrible, poorly sourced, juvenile political manifestos anymore.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: eskimospy

Yes, Iraq was anarchy. I really don't see how you can dispute that. For large portions of the country there was no recognized or capable governing authority. That's anarchy. It doesn't matter if the US SAYS "oh, we got this". Nobody did and horrible things ensued because this is the real world where when two people have a disagreement they don't go to a magical impartial arbiter in situations like that, one of them kills the other and takes what he wants.

More in the current justice system prevents the rapist from striking again than in your absurd example. (and what's funny is that everything you just said against our current justice system could be equally well applied to your anarchistic one) The guy that wrote those books is quite simply a moron. He's trying to restructure the nature of society based on principles that society doesn't even come close to having. You pay a fine every time you rape or murder someone? Are you kidding me? How long do you think that would last? (interesting business ideas in that though... don't like how well Apple is doing? Just go murder Steve Jobs. Sure you'll pay a murder fine, but what's the big deal? Your profits will more than make up for it.)

What prevents a rapist from raping in prison?

You clearly didn't read what it says in the book. Financial restitution would not be the only aspect of justice, but rather complete exile from society would quickly ensue.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Yes, Iraq was anarchy. I really don't see how you can dispute that. For large portions of the country there was no recognized or capable governing authority. That's anarchy. It doesn't matter if the US SAYS "oh, we got this". Nobody did and horrible things ensued because this is the real world where when two people have a disagreement they don't go to a magical impartial arbiter in situations like that, one of them kills the other and takes what he wants.

More in the current justice system prevents the rapist from striking again than in your absurd example. (and what's funny is that everything you just said against our current justice system could be equally well applied to your anarchistic one) The guy that wrote those books is quite simply a moron. He's trying to restructure the nature of society based on principles that society doesn't even come close to having. You pay a fine every time you rape or murder someone? Are you kidding me? How long do you think that would last? (interesting business ideas in that though... don't like how well Apple is doing? Just go murder Steve Jobs. Sure you'll pay a murder fine, but what's the big deal? Your profits will more than make up for it.)

What prevents a rapist from raping in prison?

You clearly didn't read what it says in the book. Financial restitution would not be the only aspect of justice, but rather complete exile from society would quickly ensue.

Until the debt was paid, at which point they would be allowed back into society will all rights and privileges. Bill Gates could go on quite a rape spree.

And right back at you, what prevents a rapist from raping in his new work assignment? Or, he'd be "exiled" from society huh? Sure he would. How long until a bunch of these exiled people get back together and start raping and pillaging your stupid little town even though you signed a "please don't rape and pillage me" contract? I'd say about 3 months. But wait! You'd turn off their water! (making them come, beat you to death, and take yours)
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
I'm not going to go spend the time to rebut ridiculous editorial pieces. If you think this is true, again by all means go found your Galt's Gulch somewhere and have a great time. As someone said in another thread, we already have one dmcowen here, we don't need two.

Dmcowen is on your side, a full fledged member of the Socialist Horde.

If you honestly think people really care about what you do with your life enough that they are more interested in your moving expenses than their retirement and health care you are awfully full of yourself or dangerously paranoid.

Well at least they should be concerned that people no longer wish to pay into the socialist programs that provide their retirement and health care.

Something you might want to note: Nobody cares if you're here or not.

Well apparently my family cares, but I guess luckily for you they are more on your side than mine.

The thing that makes me happy about you leaving is that hopefully then I won't have to hear you whine or skim though horrible, poorly sourced, juvenile political manifestos anymore.

Actually, I am already setting up my own web site with a blog & forum. After taking up the simpler life, I'm going to have much more time to devote to those. My whine will become a full roar, I guess for those who wish to listen.

As for 'juvenile political manifestos,' you are right. I guess they aren't nearly as good as years of propaganda instilled by your friends, family & public education. Mom & dad are always right!
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
If you honestly think people really care about what you do with your life enough that they are more interested in your moving expenses than their retirement and health care you are awfully full of yourself or dangerously paranoid.

Well at least they should be concerned that people no longer wish to pay into the socialist programs that provide their retirement and health care.

The contrary evidence, the news piece in which you have been hacked to bits by a roving gang of militants in your African utopia plantation, will probably be enough to counteract that concern.

You'll never actually move, because despite all the BS you've spewed here for years in favour of "your ideology", even you don't believe in it.

And I don't think any of us really mind if you continue this pretty determined attempt to come across as an unique snowflake in a nation of automatons, just so long as you cease nattering away in our ears about it all the time. Stop complaining and move already, or admit that you're all talk.

eskimospy: Want to place a wager on whether he's still posting from America in two years' time? I'll take the losing odds and put up $20 that says he does move.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: eskimospy
I'm not going to go spend the time to rebut ridiculous editorial pieces. If you think this is true, again by all means go found your Galt's Gulch somewhere and have a great time. As someone said in another thread, we already have one dmcowen here, we don't need two.

Dmcowen is on your side, a full fledged member of the Socialist Horde.

If you honestly think people really care about what you do with your life enough that they are more interested in your moving expenses than their retirement and health care you are awfully full of yourself or dangerously paranoid.

Well at least they should be concerned that people no longer wish to pay into the socialist programs that provide their retirement and health care.

Something you might want to note: Nobody cares if you're here or not.

Well apparently my family cares, but I guess luckily for you they are more on your side than mine.

The thing that makes me happy about you leaving is that hopefully then I won't have to hear you whine or skim though horrible, poorly sourced, juvenile political manifestos anymore.

Actually, I am already setting up my own web site with a blog & forum. After taking up the simpler life, I'm going to have much more time to devote to those. My whine will become a full roar, I guess for those who wish to listen.

As for 'juvenile political manifestos,' you are right. I guess they aren't nearly as good as years of propaganda instilled by your friends, family & public education. Mom & dad are always right!

I meant that Dave is continually screaming that doom is right around the corner. He's also not a socialist, I'm not even sure what he is other than a disaffected ultra authoritarian quasi-leftist. In addition, when I said nobody cares if you're here or not I meant that none of your nemisis that you think are taking such joy in your financial loss or whatever actually care if you're here or not. The miniscule tax revenues that you provide don't really matter either.

I guess what I'm saying is if you're so excited about this go do it, but don't fool yourself into thinking that people really give a shit.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: Dissipate
If you honestly think people really care about what you do with your life enough that they are more interested in your moving expenses than their retirement and health care you are awfully full of yourself or dangerously paranoid.

Well at least they should be concerned that people no longer wish to pay into the socialist programs that provide their retirement and health care.

The contrary evidence, the news piece in which you have been hacked to bits by a roving gang of militants in your African utopia plantation, will probably be enough to counteract that concern.

You'll never actually move, because despite all the BS you've spewed here for years in favour of "your ideology", even you don't believe in it.

And I don't think any of us really mind if you continue this pretty determined attempt to come across as an unique snowflake in a nation of automatons, just so long as you cease nattering away in our ears about it all the time. Stop complaining and move already, or admit that you're all talk.

eskimospy: Want to place a wager on whether he's still posting from America in two years' time? I'll take the losing odds and put up $20 that says he does move.

Sure, I'll take that bet. I'm going to put a note in my phone right now actually. Hahahaha. September 22nd, 2010. Beers on me!