I'm Sensing NForce4 Fever On These Boards...

ssvegeta1010

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Its just because there are more posts and sigs with a "Check out my new NF4 system", than there are of people saying "Look at my 2 year old ____ system!".
The people who are buying new are just more likely to talk about it.
 

biostud

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It's the best new system ATM, but that doesn't mean everybody invest in one.
 

MrControversial

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Originally posted by: ssvegeta1010
Its just because there are more posts and sigs with a "Check out my new NF4 system", than there are of people saying "Look at my 2 year old ____ system!".
The people who are buying new are just more likely to talk about it.
Yeah, cuz two years ago you guys were like "Look at my NF2 with my o/ced 2500 Barton and 9800 Pro!"
 

Macro2

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99% of users will never need SLI. As for PCI-e, isn't this the new Intel BTX standard or something?

I see at least 1/2 the people having difficulties with nf4 boards.

VIA seems to have less trouble.
 

RussianSensation

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pretty much for the $$$, nothing beats A64 3000+ $150 @ 2.6ghz on a new nforce 4 platform that allows insane 300FSB overclocks.

SLI is just something that only very rich can afford, or most of us dream to have - that is why it's getting most of the attention.

When new generation of cards will get introduced, for 2 weeks, the cpu forums will be empty. It's all about the current best thing, the best bang for the buck, the dream system, and the overclocking on a budget topics that get the most attention (it's natural). It makes sense that A64 winchesters, nforce 4 sli boards would fall into most of those categories today.
 

MrControversial

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I myself can't get excited about SLi. The only reason I'm going NF4 is because I need a new system and I might as well go big since I won't upgrade for another two years.
 

bluemax

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I'm far, far more excited about the ATI RS480 Athlon64 chipset.

"Free" Radeon X300 graphics? Count me in!

EDIT: Hmm.... I'm actually losing interest since the IGP is nowhere as good as the X300, which isn't all that great.

Maybe nForce4 after all!
 

Macro2

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RE:"I'm far, far more excited about the ATI RS480 Athlon64 chipset."

I'd like to see one...where art thou?
 

biostud

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I don't think it's SLI as much as availability. SLI boards were here before Ultra, and when the Ultras start to compete on prices they will in many cases be a better over all solution.
 

MDE

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I'm still on AGP (nForce3, Intel 865) and probably won't go PCIe anytime soon because it would require a new motherboard, video card (try finding a decently priced PCIe 6800GT...), and to be safe I'd want to get a new PSU. Before you know it I'd be spending $600 for little to no benefit. Normally I upgrade piece by piece, but I'll just run my AGP based systems into the ground until I feel like gutting my systems out or saving the money for a complete new system.

EDIT: The Mac Mini is more enticing than PCIe to me ATM to put it in perspective.
 

biostud

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Originally posted by: MDE
Normally I upgrade piece by piece, but I'll just run my AGP based systems into the ground until I feel like gutting my systems out or saving the money for a complete new system.

 

Spike

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Originally posted by: MrControversial
Originally posted by: ssvegeta1010
Its just because there are more posts and sigs with a "Check out my new NF4 system", than there are of people saying "Look at my 2 year old ____ system!".
The people who are buying new are just more likely to talk about it.
Yeah, cuz two years ago you guys were like "Look at my NF2 with my o/ced 2500 Barton and 9800 Pro!"

Lol, I am still pimping my NF 2 ultra with a 2500+ @ 3200+ AXP and my 6800gt. I will upgrade this Christmas but for now this is doing great!.

-spike
 

2thAche

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I'm about to build a machine with the same specs as my gaming machine only on an ASUS SLI board and with a PCIx 6800GT. I'll be able to run them against each other and let you know how they compare. Just one 6800GT for now though, no SLI :(
 

vetteguy

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Originally posted by: Macro2
99% of users will never need SLI.
I am always amused by these kind of statements everytime something new and powerful comes out. I can remember back when the first AGP cards came out, and people were all over them, much like PCI-Express now, and statements to the effect of "no one needs AGP" or "no games will benefit from that, stick with PCI" were made. New stuff comes out. People want to buy it, and do. What's the big deal?
 

Spike

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Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: Macro2
99% of users will never need SLI.
I am always amused by these kind of statements everytime something new and powerful comes out. I can remember back when the first AGP cards came out, and people were all over them, much like PCI-Express now, and statements to the effect of "no one needs AGP" or "no games will benefit from that, stick with PCI" were made. New stuff comes out. People want to buy it, and do. What's the big deal?

In the case of AGP it was sillyness just like it is today when people say "why get PCI-Express?" IMO it is currently a better price/performance to get a good NF3/AGP setup, but that does not mean that PCIe is not the way of the future. Quite the opposite, PCIe is going to be all-encompassing soon.

As for SLI, I agree with the statement that "99% of users will never need SLI". With dual-core cpu's around the corner and dual GPU vid cards out in limited quantities, I don't believe that SLI is really going to take off.

You have the argument that you can buy a SLI board and one good card now, and get an identical one in a year or so when the prices are down but I find this flawed for a couple of reasons. First off, after a year it will be EXTREMEMLY difficult to find an EXACT same card as the first one you bought. With users experiencing difficulty with different revisions of the same card now, imagine how it will be when you are trying to get a third revision to match your first?

Second, in a years time the newest and greatest GPU's will be out and even with two of the best of last generation in your machine, I still don't think you will match the latest card. No, I can't back that statement up as SLI in it's current form has not been arround long enough, but look at it this way. Feature sets change on newer generations, something you could not take advantage of with an SLI setup based on older gen cards.

Also, we are seeing some leaps and bounds in performance with each generation of cards and if the rumors are true, the next cards will be just as awe-inspiring as this generation was when it came out. Even with a $700 SLI 6800 ultra a year from now(I figure $450 now for one and $250 then) I imagine you will be hard pressed to match the power of a single of the next gen cards, not to mention the lack of newer feature set that the cards are sure to come with.

Again, all this is pure speculation but IMO, SLI is not and won't ever be for 99% of us. Those that get SLI fit into three categories:

a) way too much money
b) LOVE new technology and must try everything out (wish I could be in this one)
c) gotta have the BEST and the FASTEST even when it means spending too much (also fits into 'a')

Oh man that post was too long...

-spike
 

Macro2

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RE:"I am always amused by these kind of statements everytime something new and powerful comes out."

I was talking about 2 high end video cards in one computer. That's what I have doubts about.

 

n yusef

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I agree with Spike, except the $700 SLi'd 6800 Ultras is cheap. Finding a $450 PCIe Ultra is near impossible, that's how much most 6800GT's (PCI Express) go for.