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SViper

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: uberman
Get all the opinions you want. I got hurt on a remote island, the only doctor was a DO. I didn't know I was covered to visit a real doctor in the city. Later I went to the city and eveything changed. This was not to say that DOs are bad. Company doctors are bad.


Do explain. Did it end up being more?

See thats the thing. I went to three doctors. One did blood work for ANA, Lyme, etc... all came back fine. The other, says that I had increased CPK for a week and now its back to normal, but that increased CPK = muscle damage, which is what I'm feeling now, about a week later. And logically, since the CPK dropped once I stopped working out, I most likely just worked out too hard. it all makes sense. But muscle aching for a week straight?

Technically, you shouldn't start any exercise routine without first consulting your doctor. He has to make sure of a few things so you don't fall down dead in the gym during a workout or something.

There was one time when I overworked my calves during a workout. Of course, I was showing off to my buddy. :) I paid for it though. My muscles were sore for an entire week. It hurt to even walk on them, and I couldn't use them 100%. Even a week later when I started working my calves again, it was a little sore. It eventually passed though, but now I know not to go "all out" when I'm at the gym.

I'm not saying you are having the same problem, but that is what I experienced. Definitely get a second opinion though if you have the money or have insurance.
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: SViper
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: uberman
Get all the opinions you want. I got hurt on a remote island, the only doctor was a DO. I didn't know I was covered to visit a real doctor in the city. Later I went to the city and eveything changed. This was not to say that DOs are bad. Company doctors are bad.


Do explain. Did it end up being more?

See thats the thing. I went to three doctors. One did blood work for ANA, Lyme, etc... all came back fine. The other, says that I had increased CPK for a week and now its back to normal, but that increased CPK = muscle damage, which is what I'm feeling now, about a week later. And logically, since the CPK dropped once I stopped working out, I most likely just worked out too hard. it all makes sense. But muscle aching for a week straight?

Technically, you shouldn't start any exercise routine without first consulting your doctor. He has to make sure of a few things so you don't fall down dead in the gym during a workout or something.

There was one time when I overworked my calves during a workout. Of course, I was showing off to my buddy. :) I paid for it though. My muscles were sore for an entire week. It hurt to even walk on them, and I couldn't use them 100%. Even a week later when I started working my calves again, it was a little sore. It eventually passed though, but now I know not to go "all out" when I'm at the gym.

I'm not saying you are having the same problem, but that is what I experienced. Definitely get a second opinion though if you have the money or have insurance.



Good to know. The neurologist said he was going to look into it. Did yours come on suddenly? Like you went to bed feeling fine and woke up with all of your muscles aching? Also, was it just your calfs, or did you theighs hurt too?
 

AbAbber2k

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Sounds like you may be a hypchondriac of some variety. So now you've had two days muscle aches? I honestly think you're blowing this out of proportion. Muscle aches are common, and there are so many benign causes that the chances of it being due to something deadly and incurable are probably miniscule. Still, I'm in no position to tell you NOT to go to the doctor. Honestly in your case I'd say GO... just so he/she can say "You're perfectly fine." If you don't, even if you get better, you may stress yourself out just worrying because you didn't get another opinion.
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Sounds like you may be a hypchondriac of some variety. So now you've had two days muscle aches? I honestly think you're blowing this out of proportion. Muscle aches are common, and there are so many benign causes that the chances of it being due to something deadly and incurable are probably miniscule. Still, I'm in no position to tell you NOT to go to the doctor. Honestly in your case I'd say GO... just so he/she can say "You're perfectly fine." If you don't, even if you get better, you may stress yourself out just worrying because you didn't get another opinion.


No not two days. Eight days. These intense muscle aches started last Thursday and have only gotten worse. I also have a general feeling of weakness over my body. For instance, today I was filling out doctors papers and my arm muscles are weak so it was hard to write.

-Matt
 

SViper

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: SViper
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: uberman
Get all the opinions you want. I got hurt on a remote island, the only doctor was a DO. I didn't know I was covered to visit a real doctor in the city. Later I went to the city and eveything changed. This was not to say that DOs are bad. Company doctors are bad.


Do explain. Did it end up being more?

See thats the thing. I went to three doctors. One did blood work for ANA, Lyme, etc... all came back fine. The other, says that I had increased CPK for a week and now its back to normal, but that increased CPK = muscle damage, which is what I'm feeling now, about a week later. And logically, since the CPK dropped once I stopped working out, I most likely just worked out too hard. it all makes sense. But muscle aching for a week straight?

Technically, you shouldn't start any exercise routine without first consulting your doctor. He has to make sure of a few things so you don't fall down dead in the gym during a workout or something.

There was one time when I overworked my calves during a workout. Of course, I was showing off to my buddy. :) I paid for it though. My muscles were sore for an entire week. It hurt to even walk on them, and I couldn't use them 100%. Even a week later when I started working my calves again, it was a little sore. It eventually passed though, but now I know not to go "all out" when I'm at the gym.

I'm not saying you are having the same problem, but that is what I experienced. Definitely get a second opinion though if you have the money or have insurance.



Good to know. The neurologist said he was going to look into it. Did yours come on suddenly? Like you went to bed feeling fine and woke up with all of your muscles aching? Also, was it just your calfs, or did you theighs hurt too?

Well, the exercise I was doing isolated my calves, so that's the only thing that was sore. I didn't have any soreness or weakness in any other muscles. It was also a gradual soreness that set in, starting the following morning after I woke up. It probably peaked on the 3rd day, then gradually subsided for the next few days.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
No not two days. Eight days. These intense muscle aches started last Thursday and have only gotten worse. I also have a general feeling of weakness over my body. For instance, today I was filling out doctors papers and my arm muscles are weak so it was hard to write.

-Matt

Well every symptom you post points to anxiety/depression.

When you gonna do something about it and see a doctor?
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
No not two days. Eight days. These intense muscle aches started last Thursday and have only gotten worse. I also have a general feeling of weakness over my body. For instance, today I was filling out doctors papers and my arm muscles are weak so it was hard to write.

-Matt

Well every symptom you post points to anxiety/depression.

When you gonna do something about it and see a doctor?


:confused:

I highly doubt this is it. I think something is really wrong. I can barely walk: I doubt anxiety can cause that
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
:confused:

I highly doubt this is it. I think something is really wrong. I can barely walk: I doubt anxiety can cause that

*sigh*
You won't listen. anxiety/depression has very real effects on the physical body, the mind controls the body remember? The aches, the pains, etc can all be caused by anxiety/depression or a whole slew of other mental health problems.

If you were to describe your symptoms to a psychiatrist they would nail it in 5 minutes. I've read many of your posts and it literally screams out. I wish you would do something about it.

I'm really trying to help here and nothing more. Heck if you won't do something about it go fill out an online mental health screening. It's not a big deal, most all people deal with some form of mental illness once in their life. It's when they don't do anything about it that it gets bad.
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
:confused:

I highly doubt this is it. I think something is really wrong. I can barely walk: I doubt anxiety can cause that

*sigh*
You won't listen. anxiety/depression has very real effects on the physical body, the mind controls the body remember? The aches, the pains, etc can all be caused by anxiety/depression or a whole slew of other mental health problems.

If you were to describe your symptoms to a psychiatrist they would nail it in 5 minutes. I've read many of your posts and it literally screams out. I wish you would do something about it.

I'm really trying to help here and nothing more. Heck if you won't do something about it go fill out an online mental health screening. It's not a big deal, most all people deal with some form of mental illness once in their life. It's when they don't do anything about it that it gets bad.

If this is really the problem I'd LOVE to do something about it. My MD thinks the aches are not related to anything but the rhabdomyolysis. Meanwhile in my head I think I'm dieing of ALS or MS or something, which is odd for someone my age. But these aches KILL. like I can't even run if I had to.
 
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Always get a second opinion, mate, you're fine. I didn't read the other responses, but it doesn't hurt at all to try to be sure. I've had people see 5+ doctors and them all be wrong about something, so I'd at least double check. Doctors are people too and they CAN be wrong. I really hope things get better for ya, man. Muscles weakness and fatigue can be terrible and annoying.
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Always get a second opinion, mate, you're fine. I didn't read the other responses, but it doesn't hurt at all to try to be sure. I've had people see 5+ doctors and them all be wrong about something, so I'd at least double check. Doctors are people too and they CAN be wrong. I really hope things get better for ya, man. Muscles weakness and fatigue can be terrible and annoying.

I am getting a second opinion. Hopefully (hopefully) it won't be something deadly like ALS or something.
 

chusteczka

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A hypochondriac weight-lifter is rare.

How heavy was your most recent workout in the gym?
How long between that workout and your extreme muscle weakness.
What are your eating and sleeping habits?

Do you sleep at least seven hours a night on a regular schedule?
Are you on any medications?
Are you taking any weight gain powders?

Why are you weight-lifting if you have been diagnosed with Rhabdomyolysis?
Shouldn't you recover from this first?
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
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Originally posted by: chusteczka
A hypochondriac weight-lifter is rare.

How heavy was your most recent workout in the gym?
How long between that workout and your extreme muscle weakness.
What are your eating and sleeping habits?

Do you sleep at least seven hours a night on a regular schedule?
Are you on any medications?
Are you taking any weight gain powders?

Why are you weight-lifting if you have been diagnosed with Rhabdomyolysis?
Shouldn't you recover from this first?


Up until 10/06/2006, I was working out 1.5 hours per day, 4 times per week. Half hour of cardio, an hour of weight training, most of the time pushing my limits with a personal trainer.
10/07/2006 -- diagnosed with rhabdoymyolysis ... in hospital until 10/09/2006.
10/13/2006 -- Begin experiencing muscle cramps and weakening, gotten worse on a daily basis ever since
I have not worked out since

Since I've been off of work I've been staying up pretty late and sleeping most of the day. Yes, I get at least seven hours of sleep per night. I take Avapro and Veralin PM for blood pressure. Not taking any weight gain/loss crap.

Thanks for any advice you can give me,

Matt
 

chusteczka

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My opinion is that you think something may be medically wrong so go to your doctor's appointment in the morning. You are the only person responsible for you and it is good to get a second opinion. I expect you to return with a clean bill of health.

Beyond that, I find it odd that someone with such a workout schedule is taking medicine for blood pressure. A half hour of cardio training four times per week and medicine is needed to control blood pressure? This sounds abnormal. Is this to increase your blood pressure or to decrease it? If you are taking your cardio seriously, you could easily have a pulse between 40 - 50 beats per minute with blood pressure around 60/95. This is what I had when I was younger and following a similar workout routine. This is absolutely normal for a physically fit man in his lower 20's.

I think your training routine is too hard too often. A week is too short of a time period to follow for typical weight exercise routines. Rather than coordinating your workout routine based on a time schedule of a week, base it on a feeling of raw energy in that body part. The body goes through cycles. It is normal to feel tired and lazy one week and feel strong as a horse the next week. Let your own body tell you when to work hard and when to take a break. I think you have overworked yourself by following a poorly coordinated routine based on paper.

Do you push your limits each day with this personal trainer? That is not good. One week, push your limits on your leg muscles when they feel strong and energetic and take it easy on the rest of your body. The next week push your limits on your chest or back while taking it easy on the rest of the body.

Weight training breaks down the muscles. You must give your muscles an opportunity to rebuild themselves and 6 days between the same body part is not enough time.

Give yourself a break from exercising for two to three months then restart slowly as your energy allows. You may want to consider getting rid of that quack of a personal trainer and just rely on your body's energy levels to tell you what part of the body to exercise and how strongly.

Earlier replies mentioned mental health. When you exercise, clear your mind and focus on your body's movements. Put your mind in that calm, focused place. This is the best thing you can do for your mind and your overall health. This is better than any mental health doctor since you train your mind to relax. Many people describe a runner's high when running. This often includes having their mind in that special calm place.

Quite simply, you have overworked your body.
Just listen to your body's rythyms and you will be fine.