i'm on my first winning game in Civ IV and my brain is melting

[DigDog]

this has to be the best civ ever made, no seriously.

Civ 5 has that RIDICULOUS one-unit-per-tile limit that pretty much forces you to rush towards the battlemech. This alone completely ruins the game for me.
And, there's othe rminor annoyances, such as - it's never good to conquer an enemy city, it's always, always best to raze it and bring a settler to replace it. Culture is suuuuuper delicate and cannot be brute-forced in any way.
Anyway, enough with civ v,


CIV IV is the best Civ. It has a bit more fuzzy happiness/maintenance etc, it's actually more forgiving, but not so easy to manage as Civ II - which, was a nightmare of micromanagement. The AI i would say is better, not only for the additional win options it has, but also for the choices it makes.

Civ VI i tried it for a couple games and all my cities (which were maybe 10 squares away from the capital) defaulted to the enemy - while military units were garrisoned in them - without me being able to do anything, at the near-start of the game. Yeah ok, lol.
I like improvements but i am not happy when new Civ games try to move the game system away from Civ I / Civ II.

So i played for several hours and made it to nearly 1900, the Malinese empire has overtaken me in my Civ score (because i've been stacking up combat units), so now i have to take him down a notch. He is a couple techs ahead of me so this might be disastrous .. wish me good luck.

 

[ElFenix]

how have you seemingly played every civ game for the last 25 years but this is your first winning game of civ iv? :boggle:

 

[sandorski]

100% agree.

Haven't attempted Conquest since Civ 1. Just not my style. Play Pacifist, until someone has attacked me a few times, then I eliminate them unless it becomes too costly.

 

[DigDog]

how have you seemingly played every civ game for the last 25 years but this is your first winning game of civ iv? :boggle:

Warlord-difficulty games dont count.

 

[DeathReborn]

Only 5.4% of Steam players of Civ 6 have won on Deity (at least gotten the achievement). I have won on every difficulty level but for some curious (one of the 4X things) reason never won by Diplomacy...

Civ II is still my favourite one though, followed by IV.

 

[zinfamous]

Yep Civ IV is the best. I never could get beyond 20 or 30 years, I dunno, in any Civ V attempt--and just recently a free Civ VI through Epic Game store...I actually uninstalled it after about 20 turns of game play, lol.

It's only gotten worse, imo.

I really loved Civ III, too, despite its ...issues, and wasn't until the big DLC for Civ IV until I accepted how much better it was.

 

[DigDog]

i fought the Malinese and managed to brute force my way to the capture of their capital and of another large city, against units a full tech tier over, but they could not match my sheer number of units.
In the meanwhile Ghandi has overtaken me, and i have 74 turns left. I will have to rush him and destroy some of his cities to lower his score, but it's water world (despite me picking low water level) and i will need to go through the malinese territory again .. ugh.

 

[zinfamous]

i fought the Malinese and managed to brute force my way to the capture of their capital and of another large city, against units a full tech tier over, but they could not match my sheer number of units.
In the meanwhile Ghandi has overtaken me, and i have 74 turns left. I will have to rush him and destroy some of his cities to lower his score, but it's water world (despite me picking low water level) and i will need to go through the malinese territory again .. ugh.

I always loved bullying Gandhi into declaring war and then beating him down. ....I have no idea why.

 

[DigDog]

I always loved bullying Gandhi into declaring war and then beating him down. ....I have no idea why.

Gandhi always was one of the more aggressive leaders; this was probably a joke on IRL Gandhi's non-violence ideology. IIRC the most heated Civ II leaders were Gandhi and Shaka Zulu. I believe that Gandhi had the same AI as the Mongolians, and while the Zulu were more aggressive, they sucked and were easy to dominate if you survived the initial horde of tech 1 units. Gandhi would come at you with nuclear weapons, yo.

 

[pmv]

Gandhi always was one of the more aggressive leaders; this was probably a joke on IRL Gandhi's non-violence ideology. IIRC the most heated Civ II leaders were Gandhi and Shaka Zulu. I believe that Gandhi had the same AI as the Mongolians, and while the Zulu were more aggressive, they sucked and were easy to dominate if you survived the initial horde of tech 1 units. Gandhi would come at you with nuclear weapons, yo.

The way I heard it, was just that a bug meant a paritcular stat was set as negative instead of positive (or vise-versa) and thus unintentionally turned Gandhi into a warmonger rather than a peacenik? Then people got used to this ahistorical Mahatma, and Firaxis decided to leave it that way?

 

[alcoholbob]

Warlord-difficulty games dont count.

Difficulty doesn't really matter, it just forces you to cheese, which IMO is even less satisfying than just screwing around and experimenting below Prince level.

 

[DigDog]

Sid Meyer says it's just player's perception: https://dailytech.page/2019/09/05/w...dhi-bug-in-civilization-most-likely-invented/

but i don't know, i remember every major nuclear war i've had on that game and i've had one with the russians and practically every other with gandhi.

 

[pmv]

Sid Meyer says it's just player's perception: https://dailytech.page/2019/09/05/w...dhi-bug-in-civilization-most-likely-invented/

but i don't know, i remember every major nuclear war i've had on that game and i've had one with the russians and practically every other with gandhi.

Crickey - who'd have thought there was that much of a story behind that question?