Im not ready to give up AGP.

[HDTVMan]

Benechmarks show there is no improvements in performance and the extra bandwidth is not needed for PCI-E

So if I want to build a newer gen system I pretty much am forced to buy a new video card? Maybe some mobo manufacturers can come out with boards that have both?

I guess this is NVIDIA's plan to force you into buying an NFORCE4 mobo by not releasing the 7800 in AGP? After all have you seen any SLI boards from VIA and SIS?

It also seems like a move to force out SIS and VIA becuase after all marketing will tell you that you want a Mobo that is from the same manufacturer as your video card.

How interesting that the video market can try to dictate where you get your next motherboard.

NVIDIA is really smart. Despite most of my machines are ATI currently.

 

[Grimbor]

From some of the technical articles I have been reading on the 7800 and the r520, PCIe will play a factor in these cards using 512+ memory effectively in later incarnations. If your buying a new MB, I'd definately go PCIe for a few $ more. If you buying a new vid card that is pricing AGP versions in a similar price range or cheaper and you don't want to use that card in any future SLI configuration, then there is little reason to upgrade an already good MB. However, both Nvidia's SLI2 and ATIs crossfire should support different generation cards running in SLI if the card was SLI capable to begin with. This might be a factor in deciding whether to get a PCIe card and board now if your going to spend $250+ on a new vid card. A decent refurbed PCIe MB can be had, if you search around and get lucky, for $40.

It makes sense for the GPU makers to get people off AGP asap so they can concentrate on 1 version of each model and take advantage of the PCIe advanatges for more users when future 512 cards are released. I'm sure it was a pain for them during the first PCI to AGP transition and the later 2X/4X conversion.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Im not ready to give up AGP.

I am.

(<---current owner of an Athlon XP/nForce2/AGP 6800GT system)

 

[Dimmu]

I have actually seen some MB's that have an AGP and a PCIeX16 slot.

I think that, or something of that sort, will be my next mobo. Since I have an X850XT AGP that I'm not ready to part with yet.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135157#DetailSpecs

 

[HDTVMan]

Originally posted by: Dimmu
I have actually seen some MB's that have an AGP and a PCIeX16 slot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135157#DetailSpecs

Cool I will look for some benchies.

 

[imported_Kiwi]

Originally posted by: HDTVMan
Cool I will look for some benchies.

The initial incarnations of the "both kinds of GPU slots" offerings were faking it for the AGP, and using a plain single-speed PCI bus version of an AGP. There has been one I've seen covered that performed the trick in another, less limited manner, but exactly whose product was involved escaped me (Foxconn?) Maybe it was it the one that the messager before you suggested? I might take a look later . .