I'm Having A Problem With Radeon 9800 (Non-Pro Cat3.9Driv... AMD 2600+Barton

[ReptileMatt]

Hello, my Unlce gave my a 9800 Radeon (New from Ebay.com) and an Audigy 2 (from Ebay.com). We installed the cards at my house after loving his own Radeon 9800 when we tested it on my machine.

Well: Something is definatelly mest up and is worrying me. With the new cards in my system my CPU temps are going CRAZY. I mean Crazy. Even with open case i get a 48 C idol with Thermaltake Silent Boost and Artic silver 5! Now it gets worse though. My motherboard is a Aopen AK79D-400VN with Nforce2 400Ultra chipset. I can see the temperatures of everything in my PC. When i play either America's Army or Halo PC my temperatures shoot up to 57-86 C...but change very quickly with EZ clock monitoring. The thing that's killing me is these temps can really mess up my CPU but for some reason even with my motherboard set to Auto shutdown at 70C my computer doesn't shut down...but it does give me the warning beeps. I was hoping it's a software problem and maybe I just have to reload Windows XP Pro and redo the Motherboard CMOS. Please...Some one help me...I really need it. Both my uncle and I are trying to look around for answers. ALSO: I put my old PNY Geforce FX 5200Ultra card in and my CPU temps were fine!!! So could it be a software glitch or could the ATI Radeon be eating up my CPU and adding A LOT of heat to it?

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[Adul]

it may be your power supply is not up to handling the extra power draw of a 9800

 

[ReptileMatt]

That could be, I have a 400watt PSU right now and it ran my Uncles ATI Radeon fine. Very strange. I'm thinking maybe somehow I encountered a software hardware glitch with temperature readings. Atleast that's what I hope.

 

[high]

probably your monitoring software's alarm. My nforce2 ultra came with hardware doctor and it likes to beep but only voltages are too high

 

[ReptileMatt]

Maybe...could there be a glitch with the ATI Radeon and Motherboard EZ clock??? because when i put in my FX5200Ultra everything is fine.

 

[jcwagers]

Have you tried rebooting and going into the bios? Check the temp in the bios and see what you get. That should be *reasonably* accurate even though the temp will drop a bit when you reboot. Also, have you tried some other monitoring utilities? Motherboard Monitor is an excellent utility. If the Motherboard EZ clock doesn't work quite right, you might check MBM out.

MBM download links

 

[ReptileMatt]

I tried MBM but my board is to new that it's not on the list...so I can't use that program. In bios though my temps are still reading high after a good long duel in Halo PC (which runs beautifully w/ everything on high) my CPU was regestering at 50 C in BIOS!! So now I can only hope that my software is messed up although I'm leading to it that this Radeon 9800 could have a problem which rises my systems temperature in general... Anyone have anyother good and recent temperature monitoring programs?

And if it is the Radeon...for you OC'ers...if i was to flash the 9800 to Pro would I still have this problem or will it's bios (meaning the Radeon's) be fixed?

Thanks a whole bunch...I'm willing to listen to anything at this point since my cpu is saying it's running at 86 C!!!!!

 

[jcwagers]

Ok.....what speed CPU do you have? Ok....you have a 2600+(just reread the topic). With some of the higher end processors 50C isn't bad under load. I have a 1.2ghz T-bird and it idles at about 48C and goes up to about 53-54C under load. Another thing to try....have you tried uninstalling the monitoring program that you were using and reinstalling it? You said in your first post that you have your system set to shut down at 70C, correct? With that in mind, it would seem that since it doesn't shut down, your temps must not be as high as the reported temperature. If it was actually running at 70C, your system should shut itself down. The only other thing I can think of is to reset the auto shutdown temp to a lower number such as 55C or 58C. If the PC shuts itself off, you know that it is ACTUALLY getting that hot. If it doesn't, you'll have your answer about your temps. How much AS5 did you use on the processor? Did you apply a thick layer or a thin one? That can also have some significant effects on your temps. You want to strive to make it as thin as possible while still covering the core. Also, don't wiggle the heatsink around after you put the AS5 on the processor. Try to line it up put the heatsink on without moving it and then fasten it down. Keep us posted on what you find out!

jc

 

[ReptileMatt]

You just made a good point with setting the shutdown temps lower to about 55-57C...I'm going to try it tonight to see what temps i'm actually getting. With the Artic Silver...everything was done correctly. I'm able to clock my CPU core to around 2.2ghz easy with my SIlent boost HSF of course...but I just keep it on stock because no point in doing so. I'll tell you if my mobo shuts down at lower Temps in the high 50C's...that will give us a better image.

 

[ReptileMatt]

Alright so I tested the temp Warning at 50 C and 56C. When EZClock reported 57C on the 56C warning no beeps were made even though i was 1C over the warning bell. AT 50C warning bios kicked on right at 50C and started beeping. I now figured out that the my computer only shuts down when it feels the CPU will blow at 97C "as it says" dunno about that....I really think software problem or even ATI radeon might be messed up. Not sure until tomorrow.

 

[jcwagers]

If the Radeon card worked ok at your uncle's house, I wouldn't think that the card is bad. I agree with you and think that it is probably a software problem. I know you're concerned about keeping your temps as low as possible and that's understandable. The main thing to make sure of though is that the system is stable. If the system runs with excellent stability, you shouldn't have to worry about the temp problem(unless it just bothers you). The stability is the most important thing. More than likely, you'll upgrade before you ever come close to damaging your chip. One more suggestion, you might try flashing your bios with a new one. Sometimes the updated bios files have fixes for problems while othertimes they just add support for newer CPUs. I didn't notice any fix for that type problem in the bios files on Aopen's website but it might be worth checking out as a last resort. Again, is it possible for you to reinstall the EZClock software? If that doesn't help, then aside from the bios check, I don't know what else to have you try. You said it was a 400 watt power supply.....any idea what brand?

jc

 

[ReptileMatt]

Ok...i reinstalled EZclock...no new news. I'm not sure what brand PSU is. WOuld it make a difference though besides the wattage and all? I've heard stories that things don't run stable on a bad PSU but my PC runs stable.

 

[jcwagers]

The thing to be concerned about is how the voltage runs through the different rails. There are 3 main rails that are significant. These are the 3.3v rail, 5v rail, and the 12v rail. These are all important and oftentimes "generic" power supplies have very low voltages on the various rails and that can cause instabilities. As long as everything is stable though, I think you should be fine. It just sounds like the EZclock is being difficult.

jc