I'm Going Vegetarian After Watching This

[novon]

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I hope I last for good, that's some sick #$%@ we encourage.

 

[yakko]

That's not so bad. Then again I am already vegetarian.

 

[Shazam]

Mmmm, that meat looked mighty tasty.

 

[Jumpem]

I used to work on a beef cow farm. You just have to realize that they are ANIMALS, not PEOPLE!
Why do liberals think animals are equal to humans? Back to my hamburger.

 

[OS]

Huh, so that makes it ok to torture other creatures?

 

[prontospyder]

Jumpem....let's just hope the spirits of those animals you love killing and eating doesn't want revenge.

 

[KingHam]

Yum. It looks so fresh and tasty. Carnivore forever!

KingHam

 

[Playitagainsam]

Nice piece of propaganda. Do you also give up squishing roaches and meat pie because you saw "A Bug's Life" or "Chicken Run"? Or become a pacifist after seeing Vietnam footage or the Rodney King beating? Manipulation of masses through images appealing to raw, basic feelings is as old as organized power. Do you realize that an entire crew of spin doctors and specialists collected and edited a large mass of film footage in order to obtain the best response from you? I'm not even saying that the message is wrong (yet), just pointing out cold facts.

I agree there's overproduction - and dead animals' meat spoiling on rack in supermarkets. That's the problem with capitalism, consumerism and current economic systems.

But blaming the entire meat production and consumption is moronic. We are omnivores, not exclusive vegetarians, just like our primate cousins, the great apes. Saying that "milk sucks", and milk is bad", like they recently did in New York is another idiocy. Some of the oldest non-meat diets in the world include milk and honey (how long til the PETA declares honey a "cruel exploitation of the bees", I wonder?)

Only Americans can come up with such issues. Why do you think the rest of the world thinks Americans are immature brats?

 

[macssuck]

I will think about this while I eat my beacon and eggs.

I do feel sorry for the diary cows sitting in thier own sh!t and would like to see them out on a pasture instead.

 

[Yza]

I honestly thought it was something horrific.. that aint crap.

 

[Yza]

ROFLMAO I'm still watching it... I guess morons thought meat fell out of the sky or something?

Or they where raised on happy little farms and died of old age?

ROFLMAO....

 

[integlspwr]

THat was pretty gross. :Q

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

PeTA should be talking about treating animals with undue torture, like the examples shown in this video. I disagree with their stance that eating meat is prima facie immoral, unhealthy, and unnatural though. If we are to ever boycott eating meat, it should be because the farmers are treating them without dignity even as animals (i.e. a living being). Of course they shouldn't be treated on par as humans (or maybe they should? it's complicated but I'm inclined to say no for now), but they should be treated with some sort of dignity.

I wonder why they shock the cows before they bleed it but they don't do the same for the pigs. That was pretty sick what they did to the pig.

I'm sure this video shows the reality of what's going on, but selected examples of torture (mean farm workers cussing at the animals) are probably just that -- selected examples. I sure for every asshole working at the farm there is at least one who isn't like that. But the entire packing process is probably more or less the same with the other packagers, so that might be something PeTA should focus on.

Plastering billboards of cancer patients was not an ethical treatment either, so PETA should be careful about being fvcking hippocrites that can't treat people as well as animals. They have some valid points, but the reason that they turn most of us off is because they extend their arguments to moral/naturalistic arguments that don't hold water... and nobody like getting spammed by overzealous people, no matter what their intention (e.g. religion, peta, liberals)

 

[AngelOfDeath]

OuterSquare: No, it's not okey to torture animals, but I think these movies often has been made at a plac where it's really bad. Bad often these farmers actually cares for his/hers animals.

But just to be shure I try as much as I can to buy ecological. I know there always will be people cheaten trying to earn the extra money without deserving it. But in the end we all have to believe that it's actually paying off in the long-run.

AoD

 

[abovewood]

Aren't vegetables and plants living beings as well?
They do grow, reproduce, and die naturally if they don't get eaten.

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

hmmm yeah i guess you're right abovewood. it's fuzzy distinguishing treatment of animals with plants but it might have something to do with ability to feel pain. higher animals probably have consciousness as well, so boxing them up is bad for them too. but i think chickens are pretty dumb and they probably don't know what the hell is going on. for goodness sake there was a chicken that lived without a head for a few years. but then we tend to have reservations against bad treatment of chickens too. i don't know

 

[kami]

The footage shown there is NOT the norm. What you see there is very rare...I know at least every farm in this area has all of their cows (dairy and non-dairy) in pastures all freakin day. Then they are sent off to the butchers where they are first electrocuted (when it's done right, it is instantaneous death...the sickos on that film can burn in hell) before being butchered. Most people are decent human beings and don't practice such things, but if you're going to let the practices of a few places turn you around entirely from the whole farming industry and go vegeteratian...you are really too gullible. PETA has you by the chain.

 

[StageLeft]

That stuff is nasty.

 

[CinderElmo]

As Dennis Miller once said "Animal right's activists will jump over a man laying in a pool of his own urine to spit on someone wearning fur." Until we solve all of mankind's suffering and tragedy I am going to happily eat meat and not think twice (unless it is powdered meat from Taco Bell )

 

[ratkil]

It is a matter of economics. Most ranchers do care about their animals, even if they don't, they still want to maximize profits. Cattle in stress lose massive amounts of weight, therefore, a rancher wants to minimize the stress as much as possible. This means they are going to provide decent conditions to minimize this stress. Now on the flip side they also have to remain as profitable as possible, so these condidtions are not going to be perfect for that reason.

If you don't like it, don't eat it, I don't have a problem with that, but don't try to influence my choices.

BTW I am not slamming you for posting this as you are just stating your opinions, I am slamming the people who actually try to convert others like PETA.

 

[OS]

AoD, I agree with your sentiment, and that the videos were probably sensationalist. However, I didn't agree with Jumpmem's implication that it's ok to torture animals because they are "animals, not people" By that reasoning, it would suddenly be ok for people to go around abusing pets and whatever animals they come across.

 

[Isla]

I'm semi vegetarian, partly for these reasons.

You can buy free range chicken at most health food stores. When Mr. Isla wants beef, I buy it there, too. It's more expensive, but I feel better about giving my kids chickens who were cared for responsibly. It's the mass produced stuff that sucks.

 

[Doomguy]

kami: That is what really happens. Just because your small, local farm isnt like that dosent mean most meat production is like that. There is a farm right down the street from me but its only a small one. Big meat producing farms cage in the cows tightly and make sure they cant "moo" so the meat is tender because the cows cant develop their muscles from "mooing"