I'm getting sick of the crouching landing in action movies.

[Eug]

I'm getting sick of the crouching landing in action movies. It seems particularly prominent these days for women in action movies, but maybe it's just because there are more women in action movies these days and I'm already sick of the stance.

What comes to mind are characters like Black Widow in Iron Man or movies like Sucker Punch.

However, apparently I'm not the only one who's sick of it. I was googling images and movies for the stance for this thread, and came across this YouTube mashup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgOtPXDyKjA&feature=youtu.be

 

[her209]

JT at the end was a nice touch.

 

[MongGrel]

It does have certain sexual visual aspects, ya know.

 

[who?]

The upper body has momentum and to stop it while standing up would take incredible balance and strength. To keep from falling forward the lower back muscles would have to pull really hard but not so hard that you fall over backward.

 

[brianmanahan]

i am sure there is a valid physics explanation for all of this

 

[Imp]

You didn't show the one that started it all... Matrix Reloaded or whatever the second one is called.

 

[Kadarin]

You didn't show the one that started it all... Matrix Reloaded or whatever the second one is called.

@0.19

 

[who?]

In order to hold a growing fetus a womans body has a very flexible trunk that's never going to have the muscle strength and mass that will keep her upright in every situation.

 

[purbeast0]

hey op, try to jump off a 10 foot platform and land straight up. let us know how that goes and come back to us.

 

[BudAshes]

hey op, try to jump off a 10 foot platform and land straight up. let us know how that goes and come back to us.

gotta absorb and roll.

 

[vi edit]

Find that far less annoying than the requisite bass sweep that accompanies nearly every trailer and game demo.

 

[MongGrel]

Lens Flash ?

 

[phucheneh]

Find that far less annoying than the requisite bass sweep that accompanies nearly every trailer and game demo.

That and 'Inception horns.'

The crouch thing is valid from a physics standpoint, but there is no reason to actually execute it in the silly 'I'm a woman look at me' way that the OP is describing.

The parkour rolling landing is much more effective, albeit hard to execute. It's amusing when people hit the ground, clearing stopping all momentum, THEN do a roll. For no reason.

 

[Eug]

Lens Flash ?

You mean lens flare?

Although lately that's more a JJ Abrams thing.

You didn't show the one that started it all... Matrix Reloaded or whatever the second one is called.

I'm certain I've seen it long before the Matrix Trilogy.

 

[Babbles]

That and 'Inception horns.'

The crouch thing is valid from a physics standpoint, but there is no reason to actually execute it in the silly 'I'm a woman look at me' way that the OP is describing.

The parkour rolling landing is much more effective, albeit hard to execute. It's amusing when people hit the ground, clearing stopping all momentum, THEN do a roll. For no reason.

I'll give physics an exception for the most part; it's a film after all. There is a sense of rationality in hitting the ground in a crouch and have a bit of springy momentum in the back balanced out by an outstretched arm. I think a roll would be the way to go, though. All in a fictional universe.

When I studied jujutsu, there is a practice called ukemi that is all about how to receive blows. There are certain ways to fall correctly and/or roll with it. Most of them probably do not look fancy enough for Hollywood, but I think they could be stylized enough to be both cinematic and legit.

Finally, the wide outspread leg thing that women do, though, is a bit over the top.

 

[SSSnail]

You mean lens flare?

Although lately that's more a JJ Abrams thing.

I'm certain I've seen it long before the Matrix Trilogy.

How about every Chinese martial art movies, ever?

 

[effowe]

I prefer the tuck and roll.

 

[Eug]

How about every Chinese martial art movies, ever?

I'd imagine lot of those Chinese martial lens flares are unintentional. It takes careful planning to make sure your shots don't have lens flare.

OTOH, JJ Abrams went out of his way to ADD lens flares to his Star Trek movies and Fringe. And not in post. They had guys standing around the set shining bright lights into the camera lens.

 

[who?]

A big lens hood helps a lot in preventing lens flare.

 

[Eug]

A big lens hood helps a lot in preventing lens flare.

Yep. But it doesn't eliminate it.

I don't see those old martial arts movies having lens flare put in in post. They're real lens flares, there because of stray light, although I betcha a lot of the reason is they simply didn't care enough to worry too much about it.

Plus, are they using zooms? Or just primes? Cuz if zooms, then it's harder to prevent lens flare.

 

[momeNt]

I'd like to start seeing roll landing a la parkour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhJ90doKqRs

 

[phucheneh]

Yep. But it doesn't eliminate it.

I don't see those old martial arts movies having lens flare put in in post. They're real lens flares, there because of stray light, although I betcha a lot of the reason is they simply didn't care enough to worry too much about it.

Plus, are they using zooms? Or just primes? Cuz if zooms, then it's harder to prevent lens flare.

I seem to remember seeing some Star Trek behind the scenes stuff which showed that Abrams actually did go to a lot of effort to create real lens flares.

Granted, if he's using special techniques to make them, 'real' might not be the right term. But I don't think they just stuck them everywhere in post. In the non-CG scenes, at least.

 

[Eug]

I seem to remember seeing some Star Trek behind the scenes stuff which showed that Abrams actually did go to a lot of effort to create real lens flares.

Granted, if he's using special techniques to make them, 'real' might not be the right term. But I don't think they just stuck them everywhere in post. In the non-CG scenes, at least.

You missed my post above. Yes, J.J. Abrahms and his buddies spent a lot of time shining lights into the camera. And it wasn't just in Star Trek. They did it in shows like Fringe as well.

P.S. I think there was a crouching scene too, with Spock. However, that was with a transporter.

 

[PlanetJosh]

If they replaced the typical dumb danger music with tracks of hit rock songs throughout the whole movie then I could deal with the crouching landing.

 

[Ruptga]

Abrams always has done that, it's his thing. The first movie he directed was Mission Impossible 3, and he did it there too. It annoys the shit out of me, so I intentionally avoid his movies now; he's like Michael Bay to me. I'm sure he cries himself to sleep over it too.