I'm considering either the Intel E6320 or E4400 or E4300, I'm leaning more towards one of the cheaper cpu's since then I'll have some spare cash to spend on a gpu. The system will be used mainly for office & internet, but also a little gaming. If I get the cheaper cpu I can probably get a 7600GT (or anything equivalent if you have any ideas), if I get the E6320 then I'll have to go either with a 7300 or 8500. What say you?
I'm building a budget system, need a little advice...
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Go with a 3600 x2 Brisbane as they tend to OC to 2.7ghz with stock cooling/voltage. Thhen put the $100 u fsave vs buying an E4xxx into a better card.
Sorry for not mentioning that before, the system is never going to OC'ed (well not planning to anyway). My budget is about ~$800 and that includes a 19" LCD... So if I go for the E6320 I have to go for a very chip GPU like the 7300 or the 8500 (btw, which one is better?), but if I go for the E4300 I can take the 7600GT or something of similar price/performance... The E4400 can probably be coupled with maybe a 7600. What do you say?
Edit: My main thought here, is that all mentioned cpu's here are more than decent, and a better gpu will yield the most benefit.
Edit: My main thought here, is that all mentioned cpu's here are more than decent, and a better gpu will yield the most benefit.
Sounds like u have hopes for more than an internet machine if u wanna spend $100 more than a 3600 x2. Unless you hate AMD. Even if u want more than an internet machine you're better off getting the 3600 x2 and putting the money into a faster card which will do better than the faster E6xxx or E4xxx series and slower video card.
If you want a feature packed AM2 board look at the Biostar TF-7050. IT has HDCP decoding, HDMI out, NVIDIA 7050 video and about anything else you would want in a kick ass board for under $100.
If you want a feature packed AM2 board look at the Biostar TF-7050. IT has HDCP decoding, HDMI out, NVIDIA 7050 video and about anything else you would want in a kick ass board for under $100.
Performance in games will depend more on the GPU and less on the CPU (although that is not the case all the time). But an X2 3200+ or an X2 3800+ combined with a decent mid-range card like the 7600GT will be enough for the OP I think.
About the AMD systems, I don't know much about AMD's current lineup, so if you can elaborate a little more on which cpu@mobo I should look at I'd appreciate it. Also does the AMD setup run cool and quiet with no OC? The better gpu is not so much because I'm worried about gaming, but my main concern is that this system should be future proof for the tasks I've mentioned for about 5 years.
I think this CPU paired with this motherboard would save you a lot of cash and get you quite a powerful system that'd be able to decently pull off everything from gaming to running Vista smoothly. The mobo also comes with an onboard Radeon X1200 graphics chipset that'll probably be able to decode HD on it's own. Pairing those with this 7600GT would keep around $550 free for your LCD budget, which should be plenty I reckon.
Edit: As for running cool, AMD CPUs were known for that before the Core 2 Duo showed up. In addition, as far as future-proofing is concerned, if you really want that then get this slightly more expensive 8600GT instead. It's around $20 more expensive than the 7600GT and provides more power and DX10 support as well.
Edit: As for running cool, AMD CPUs were known for that before the Core 2 Duo showed up. In addition, as far as future-proofing is concerned, if you really want that then get this slightly more expensive 8600GT instead. It's around $20 more expensive than the 7600GT and provides more power and DX10 support as well.
Actually the 65nm 3600 x2 is one of the easiet AMD CPU's to OC, not to mention it runs hella cool. Put it on the BIOSTAR TForce TF7050-M2 and that board will let u crank the HTT to 300+ out of the box. Also with that board you add the 7600GT the other guy listed but you keep the onboard video enabled with 128mb shared and you can use the mobo's HDCP decoding to watch HD content on your PC 
Plus with the HDMI out you now have a machine that will do it all.
And as far as gaming/3DMArk benchmarks go the 8600GT can't match the 7600GT, the 8600GTS is another story.
Plus with the HDMI out you now have a machine that will do it all.And as far as gaming/3DMArk benchmarks go the 8600GT can't match the 7600GT, the 8600GTS is another story.
Last week I put together a list of a budget gaming rig for a buddy of mine. The emphasis here was something thats decent for gaming now and has a decent future upgrade path. Especially for Quadcore. It'll even allow for overclocking if so desired. I managed to find some MIR deals. The 900 case had a $30 MIR which I thought was really sweet. This isnt the best build but its just one example of a budget gaming build to use as a comparison. I used pricegrabber.com for my searches. Prices do not include shipping. Your search may vary as prices/deals are subject to changes.
E4300 $114
eVGA nForce 650i Ultra 775 T1 $99
Corsair 2Gb TWIN2x20486400 RAM $79
eVGA 7600GT $80
Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer $90
Seagate 7200.10 250Gb HD $68
Samsung SH-S183L/BEBN DVD+RW DL $30
Antec Midtower 900 $90
Corsair CMPSU 520HX 520w $90
Microsoft XP Home w/SP2 OEM $77
Microsoft Comfort Cure Keyboard 2000 $20
Generic USB Mouse $15
Total: $852
E4300 $114
eVGA nForce 650i Ultra 775 T1 $99
Corsair 2Gb TWIN2x20486400 RAM $79
eVGA 7600GT $80
Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer $90
Seagate 7200.10 250Gb HD $68
Samsung SH-S183L/BEBN DVD+RW DL $30
Antec Midtower 900 $90
Corsair CMPSU 520HX 520w $90
Microsoft XP Home w/SP2 OEM $77
Microsoft Comfort Cure Keyboard 2000 $20
Generic USB Mouse $15
Total: $852
The average person won't even need or use a dual core to it's fullest 5 years from now. The average gamer/ mediaphile won't even need or use a quad core 5 years from now.
Why worry with features that look good on paper if you aren't going to use them no matter how much you tell yourself you will.
I bet everyone with OC'd 3700+ 's are still laughing at all the people that went the x2 route and still get less performance in just about everything.
If you get a a Core 2 Duo then you're an overclocker or wasting your money. If you get one, you're probably obsessed with that 61st frame per second that the human eye cannot even see, or that extra 100 points in 3DMark or just larger numbers period ( even when they mean squat ).
In all honesty the 3600 x2 at stock speeds is more than 99% of the people on the earth will "NEED" for the next 5 years. It's cheaper and uses less power at stock speeds with cool n quiet enabled.
Hell, I'd like to have a .50 BMG for hunting. Do I need it ? Hell fn no. Would I use it to it's fullest ? Not unless the deer are hiding in an APC. But yet it looks good on paper compared to any hunting rifle ( albeit the meat that would be lost do to the excessive damage cause by the impact of that huge ass bullet on the flesh ).
Why pay for something just to waste it's potential ? Like them rich bastages that buy a Ferrari just to cruise at 45mph down Sunset Blvd.
Why worry with features that look good on paper if you aren't going to use them no matter how much you tell yourself you will.
I bet everyone with OC'd 3700+ 's are still laughing at all the people that went the x2 route and still get less performance in just about everything.
If you get a a Core 2 Duo then you're an overclocker or wasting your money. If you get one, you're probably obsessed with that 61st frame per second that the human eye cannot even see, or that extra 100 points in 3DMark or just larger numbers period ( even when they mean squat ).
In all honesty the 3600 x2 at stock speeds is more than 99% of the people on the earth will "NEED" for the next 5 years. It's cheaper and uses less power at stock speeds with cool n quiet enabled.
Hell, I'd like to have a .50 BMG for hunting. Do I need it ? Hell fn no. Would I use it to it's fullest ? Not unless the deer are hiding in an APC. But yet it looks good on paper compared to any hunting rifle ( albeit the meat that would be lost do to the excessive damage cause by the impact of that huge ass bullet on the flesh ).
Why pay for something just to waste it's potential ? Like them rich bastages that buy a Ferrari just to cruise at 45mph down Sunset Blvd.
Intel's C2D line is probably the best bang for your buck at this point. I'm using an Athlon X2 3800+ (SKT939/Toledo) and that's all good for what I'm doing but soon, I'm going to need more power. And my next CPU purchase will probably be an Intel C2D.
@ Dazed & Confused - People buy Dual-Core and Quad-Core CPU's so they don't have to buy them later down the road. Not only that but they actually do perform much better than any overclocked Single-Core CPU. Try playing Oblivion, listening to music, burning a DVD movie (hi-def) with a few windows opened on a OC'd Single-Core CPU. The former will do it all faster and more efficient. Technology is advancing and it's advancing fast. You say we won't fully utilize Dual-Cores for up to five years? We're there now dude. People are using more advanced, CPU hungry programs and games and we need those Dual-Cores working together to help get the things done faster.
@ Dazed & Confused - People buy Dual-Core and Quad-Core CPU's so they don't have to buy them later down the road. Not only that but they actually do perform much better than any overclocked Single-Core CPU. Try playing Oblivion, listening to music, burning a DVD movie (hi-def) with a few windows opened on a OC'd Single-Core CPU. The former will do it all faster and more efficient. Technology is advancing and it's advancing fast. You say we won't fully utilize Dual-Cores for up to five years? We're there now dude. People are using more advanced, CPU hungry programs and games and we need those Dual-Cores working together to help get the things done faster.
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