I'm at a loss for words.

Joseph F

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http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/05/is-birth-rape-for-real/?iid=obnetwork

Giving birth is not a modest affair. After a lifetime spent covering up your privates, there they are, front and center, splayed out for any ole doc or nurse to see. As part of this no-holds-barred experience, aforesaid doc or nurse occasionally plunges an instrument (not of the musical variety) or his/her hand into an expectant mom’s vagina, feeling for the moment when new life is about to burst forth. That’s what they get paid to do.

At least in my own labors, I was always forewarned of the impending probing. But sometimes, according to writer Amity Reed, a woman isn’t asked permission. Sometimes, a woman isn’t treated respectfully on the L&D ward. When that happens, she feels violated, a sensation Reed controversially calls “birth rape.” In a post on Salon.com by Tracy Clark-Flory, Reed explains the phenomenon: “Fingers, hands, suction cups, forceps, needles and scissors … these are the tools of birth rape and they are wielded with as much force and as little consent as if a stranger grabbed a passer-by off the street and tied her up before having his way with her.”

Clark-Flory agrees — as does Healthland — that the actions and attitudes underpinning birth rape are wrong. But the term rankles her. Yeah, it’s wrong to make a woman feel emasculated on what should be one of the most empowering days of her life, but it’s not rape. Doctors, says Clark-Flory, “can hardly be expected to get verbal permission before each and every action they take.”

What do you think? Does birth rape as a concept exist? Is it accurate to call it that?
Tell me if I have gotten this right: During labor, some women cry "rape" because the doc inserted a necessary instrument into their vagina.
*facepalm
 

Sixguns

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Well I am glad you showed this to me. I will now be giving up on my dream of becoming a gyno!
 

FoBoT

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schneiderguy

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Haha, face palm.

Stupid post. I'm a feminist and I believe that Womyn are raped far more often than when men force themselves on us.

For example, these also can be considered rape:

When a man looks at a Womyn
When a man asks a Womyn a question
When a man asks a Womyn for her phone number

We cannot have equal gender rights until all men are chemically castrated at birth and Womyn are put in charge of the government.
 

xSkyDrAx

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I can see why the comments section is disabled on that site.

Anyone with a lick of sense would be spamming dumbass over and over on it.
 

OlafSicky

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I don't understand the world :( could some women voice her oppinion on this? Do we have any on the forum? "Emasculated" because people want to help you give birth.. hm.. rapists...
 

Proprioceptive

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I don't understand the world :( could some women voice her oppinion on this? Do we have any on the forum? "Emasculated" because people want to help you give birth.. hm.. rapists...

I just had my wife read this... she's given birth three times. All she did was laugh a lot, roll her eyes, and ask me, "are these people serious?"
 

sixone

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That story gives whole new meaning to the phrase "the pussification of America." :rolleyes:
 

silverpig

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How can you get pregnant without understanding what happens at birth?

I knew how babies were born way before I knew how they were made.
 

Pulsar

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http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/05/is-birth-rape-for-real/?iid=obnetwork


Tell me if I have gotten this right: During labor, some women cry "rape" because the doc inserted a necessary instrument into their vagina.
*facepalm

You don't get it.

Doctors and the medical profession in this country have pregnancy totally fucked up. They treat it as a sickness. It's not.

They also treat the patients (largely) with a total lack of respect. They suggest procedures that are known to create issues down the road (like epidurals - one of the main reasons the rate of c-sections in the US is so high compared to every other developed country). They also lie, saying things like "we need to hurry this along" when in fact medical research states that their timelines are pure bullshit - they are there largely for the comfort of the doctor and not the patient.

I could go on and on.

This is hugely a product of medical professionals who simply don't give a shit.

If they treated their patients as intelligent human beings and showed them respect, then you wouldn't see things like article. It's a reaction to patients who feel powerless.

I've been there. I'm been at numerous preganancies where I literally had to escort the doctor from the room and lay down the law. I should not have to explain that badgering a patient (you really should get an epidural. You really should) after the patient has said no a number of times is NOT acceptable.

I have had doctors tell me, point blank, that they were going to administer something after someone refused it. I actually had to threaten to call the police to get one to back off.

It's supposed to be about the patient. Instead, it's become more about the doctor.

/rant

DAGTA hit it head on. Midwives are FAR preferable to doctors in most pregnancies, but I'd always recommend doing it at the hospital. Being close to the operating room in the case of a true emergency is always a good idea.
 

yh125d

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So can a guy yell anal rape when they get prostate exams?

No, because from what I know, Doc's always tell you all professionally what they have to do, something like "This mother fuckers going in your ass!"