I'm all for gun control but this is a bit too much

[Red Squirrel]

Air guns now considered fire arms in Canada. Better put them away, you'll shoot your eye out kid. Guessing this probably applies to paint ball guns too.

http://www.guns.com/2014/11/14/canada-court-rules-air-guns-now-classified-as-firearms/

The Supreme Court of Canada last week decided that air guns will be categorized as firearms in all cases but licensing and registration, where previously the guns were only given the classification when used in some offensive of unlawful purpose, the Canadian National Firearms Association announced.

Because of the new classification, air guns will now be considered in concealed weapons cases, regardless of whether the owner is committing an offense.

The Canadian gun rights group is calling on Parliament for a legislative amendment to the law.

Canadians are not required to obtain a license or take a safety course to possess air guns, so the new classification could put law-abiding citizens who would not otherwise be informed of the change at risk, according to the NFA.

“It will be left up to police, prosecutors and courts to determine what charges will be laid, which will be prosecuted and ultimately who will be found guilty of this nebulous and ambiguous offence,” the NFA said in a statement.

Air gun owners are now bound to the same requirements firearms owners are for storing, use and transportation, but because the country’s firearms storage regulations do not currently apply to air guns, there is ambiguity in what constitutes “careless storage,” the group said.

The new provision applies to any air gun capable of causing serious bodily injury or death, with the threshold set at any air gun capable of firing at more than 214 feet er second.

The court on Nov. 5 upheld a previous decision made by the Ontario Court of Appeals in R. v. Dunn.

 

[highland145]

lolol. We need a new hat.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Here is my view on firearms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QrRurrsi74

 

[Ruptga]

Eh, apparently that's how the current laws read; it's not the court's fault, eh.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Canada....a nice place to visit....etc, etc.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Eh, apparently that's how the current laws read; it's not the court's fault, eh.

Yeah right now it's really ambiguous. You don't technically have to store them like real firearms or even register them in any way. The problem is since they're now legally considered firearms if a cop happens to walk in your house and notices it just leaning in the closet, if he's a jerk he can then charge you for possession of unregistered fire arms or some other blanket law. But air guns don't need to be registered. But firearms do. Air guns are now considered fire arms.

Overall it's just going to open up lot of possibilities for ridiculous prosecutions.

 

[dighn]

wtf I need to get my PAL ASAP

 

[eldorado99]

Yeah right now it's really ambiguous. You don't technically have to store them like real firearms or even register them in any way. The problem is since they're now legally considered firearms if a cop happens to walk in your house and notices it just leaning in the closet, if he's a jerk he can then charge you for possession of unregistered fire arms or some other blanket law. But air guns don't need to be registered. But firearms do. Air guns are now considered fire arms.

Overall it's just going to open up lot of possibilities for ridiculous prosecutions.

only restricted firearms need to be registered in Canada (mostly handguns and many semi automatic rifles under a certain length), luckily the Conservatives scrapped the useless long-gun registry a few years ago so now old farmers with a shotgun and couple of rifles doesn't need to register his firearms, only to have a valid firearms license.

 

[Iron Woode]

you may think its bad here, but in the States they banned finger guns after 13 kids died from their wounds.

 

[John Connor]

I'm not for gun control. Here in the U.S. it specifically states we the people have a right to bear arms, without it you have no first amendment and the government can rise up and supersede the people. That's why I think I should be able to own a fully automatic. You can, but you have to go through a lot of shit and the FBI can come into your house anytime they want. Guns don't kill people. It's all bull shit. If I want a concealed carry I have to be finger printed and feed! That's horse shit! What part of the 2nd amendment do they not understand?

As to the frozen one's up north, Can-A- Duh!

 

[Ruptga]

I'm not for gun control. Here in the U.S. it specifically states we the people have a right to bear arms, without it you have no first amendment and the government can rise up and supersede the people.

Which is exactly why Canada is known as Ye Colde Fascist State, a totalitarian wasteland where the citizens are peers with cattle.

Right?

 

[moonbogg]

Many air guns will kill you just as dead and are just as dangerous.

 

[wgusler]

sheep are easily slaughtered, armed sheep fair a bit better

 

[pcgeek11]

Many air guns will kill you just as dead and are just as dangerous.

So can large sticks and rocks. Do you want to register large sticks and rocks?

 

[Vdubchaos]

I'm not for gun control. Here in the U.S. it specifically states we the people have a right to bear arms, without it you have no first amendment and the government can rise up and supersede the people. That's why I think I should be able to own a fully automatic. You can, but you have to go through a lot of shit and the FBI can come into your house anytime they want. Guns don't kill people. It's all bull shit. If I want a concealed carry I have to be finger printed and feed! That's horse shit! What part of the 2nd amendment do they not understand?

As to the frozen one's up north, Can-A- Duh!

Government can do that and there is NOTHING we can do about it.

See the video I posted earlier.

Back in 1800s, I would agree with you. But today, we are talking bunch of guns vs tanks, nuclear weapons, drones, missles etc

People have 0 chance against the government.

Besides, your lovely government can strip you of all your rights TODAY and there is nothing you can do about it. All they have to do is label you a terrorist.

 

[manimal]

Government can do that and there is NOTHING we can do about it.

See the video I posted earlier.

Back in 1800s, I would agree with you. But today, we are talking bunch of guns vs tanks, nuclear weapons, drones, missles etc

People have 0 chance against the government.

Besides, your lovely government can strip you of all your rights TODAY and there is nothing you can do about it. All they have to do is label you a terrorist.

 

[cbrunny]

Chalk this one up to "who really gives a shit? we don't have many guns anyway"

This ruling will affect maybe 1 person a year in all of Canada. Maybe.

 

[cbrunny]

I'm not for gun control. Here in the U.S. it specifically states we the people have a right to bear arms, without it you have no first amendment and the government can rise up and supersede the people. That's why I think I should be able to own a fully automatic. You can, but you have to go through a lot of shit and the FBI can come into your house anytime they want. Guns don't kill people. It's all bull shit. If I want a concealed carry I have to be finger printed and feed! That's horse shit! What part of the 2nd amendment do they not understand?

As to the frozen one's up north, Can-A- Duh!

So... if your country truly believed in the first amendment, you wouldn't need the second amendment?

Sounds like a shitty place to live. I'd leave.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm not for gun control. Here in the U.S. it specifically states we the people have a right to bear arms, without it you have no first amendment and the government can rise up and supersede the people. That's why I think I should be able to own a fully automatic. You can, but you have to go through a lot of shit and the FBI can come into your house anytime they want. Guns don't kill people. It's all bull shit. If I want a concealed carry I have to be finger printed and feed! That's horse shit! What part of the 2nd amendment do they not understand?

As to the frozen one's up north, Can-A- Duh!

You're delusional if you think they can't do that now.

 

[John Connor]

Government can do that and there is NOTHING we can do about it.

See the video I posted earlier.

Back in 1800s, I would agree with you. But today, we are talking bunch of guns vs tanks, nuclear weapons, drones, missles etc

People have 0 chance against the government.

Besides, your lovely government can strip you of all your rights TODAY and there is nothing you can do about it. All they have to do is label you a terrorist.

Are we winning the war in Afghanistan?

Unconventionalism always wins in the battlefield.

You have to remember the solider is a memeber of his populace and his family as civilians. If WE decided the government is no more then those ranks and oath are invalid.

I can see the Texas national guard fighting California though. LOL

 

[ralfy]

Unfortunately, the Taliban aren't winning, either. They had to move to the borders while drug lords have taken over. Meanwhile, millions of civilians have died, many of them children, and usually involving disease and hunger.

Also, given what the military has been doing outside the U.S., it is likely that soldiers will follow orders if only to ensure the safety of their loved ones (only) and to ensure continued military operations (which means securing supply areas and even confiscating goods from civilians to support the "war" against "the enemy").

With that, plus the fact that towns and cities have only a few days' worth of food, fuel, medicine, and even ammo, that most civilians are heavily dependent on manufactured goods (including guns and ammo) and are likely not resilient (e.g., they are not familiar with planting their own food, preparing medicine, living in difficult conditions, etc.), that narcissism, consumerism, and self-entitlement prevail, and so on, it's very likely that rather than join forces civilians will turn on each other.

 

[gorcorps]

Yeah right now it's really ambiguous. You don't technically have to store them like real firearms or even register them in any way. The problem is since they're now legally considered firearms if a cop happens to walk in your house and notices it just leaning in the closet, if he's a jerk he can then charge you for possession of unregistered fire arms or some other blanket law. But air guns don't need to be registered. But firearms do. Air guns are now considered fire arms.

Overall it's just going to open up lot of possibilities for ridiculous prosecutions.

Did you even read the first sentence of your quote?

"The Supreme Court of Canada last week decided that air guns will be categorized as firearms in all cases but licensing and registration..."

So no, they don't need to be registered. And no, he can't charge you with possession of an unregistered firearm. The law just requires you to store them properly. It's over the top, but you're making a big deal out of nothing. It's basically just a way to force people to properly store their pellet rifles and such properly, as they should. I'm not a fan of making things like that a legal issue (it should be common sense) but it seems like you're blowing this out of proportion.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Perhaps this is a sign that Canada is weak and it's time to annex it!

Is there anything of value up there worth plundering?

 

[John Connor]

OIL!

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Perhaps this is a sign that Canada is weak and it's time to annex it!

Is there anything of value up there worth plundering?

Nope. It's their greatest defense, actually.

Oh, wait. Poutine. INVADE!!!