Illinois gun control law challenged in court

[bbhaag]

If you're not familiar with the new law here is a link to read about it.

Illinois governor signs extensive ban on firearms and high-capacity magazines | CNN Politics

Illinois' Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker on Tuesday signed legislation that enacts an extensive ban on firearms as well as high-capacity magazines in the state.

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Here is another link to the actual bill that was passed but it reads very legal in the same way that most legislation does.

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=5471&GAID=16&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=139995&SessionID=110&GA=102

Here is another link regarding the lawsuit that was filed. The lawsuit is VERY limited in it's scope.

Illinois state court allows limited pause on state's gun ban backed by Pritzker | CNN Politics

An Illinois judge on Friday granted a temporary restraining order barring the enforcement of a new Illinois gun control law against roughly 800 plaintiffs.

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As a resident in the State of Illinois I'm kind of up in the air on this one. I understand that the Constitution gives every citizen the right to own firearms but on the other hand I do understand that some gun control is needed. Especially in states like Illinois that have so much gun violence and have had it for so many years.

FWIW I don't own a firearm and never will.

 

[Fenixgoon]

"high cap" magazine ban is a feel good IMO, but at the same time, do what you can. if we're at the point of discussing how many people a shooter can kill, we've already failed pretty hard.

i'm curious about the "switches" mentioned. if that's a switch been semi- and auto or burst, that should make the firearm a machinegun, IIRC. which makes the regulation on it out of this world and open up the owners to very stiff penalties for not having a registration.

registration of semi-auto rifles is a good thing.

i'd prefer to see bans on just about everything (bolt action rifle, pump action shotgun remain legal for hunting) but that's a bit of a pipe dream. maybe in another 40-50 years, when kids who've grown up practicing active shooter drills are in power, then they can finally make a real change.

 

[HomerJS]

"high cap" magazine ban is a feel good IMO, but at the same time, do what you can. if we're at the point of discussing how many people a shooter can kill, we've already failed pretty hard.

i'm curious about the "switches" mentioned. if that's a switch been semi- and auto or burst, that should make the firearm a machinegun, IIRC. which makes the regulation on it out of this world and open up the owners to very stiff penalties for not having a registration.

registration of semi-auto rifles is a good thing.

i'd prefer to see bans on just about everything (bolt action rifle, pump action shotgun remain legal for hunting) but that's a bit of a pipe dream. maybe in another 40-50 years, when kids who've grown up practicing active shooter drills are in power, then they can finally make a real change.

Can someone explain how registration infringes on the right to bear arms?

 

[ivwshane]

Can someone explain how registration infringes on the right to bear arms?

The same way the 2nd gives every citizen the right to own and carry a gun…it doesn’t.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Can someone explain how registration infringes on the right to bear arms?

Something something government tracking you down something something /paranoia

 

[MrSquished]

We got 6-year-olds shooting teachers, 11-year-olds getting hit by stray bullets from a 14-year-old's trying to shoot a 14-year-old, We have mass shooters buying guns the day of or day before a mass shooting, We have toddlers walking around with guns, We have domestic violence rates that are only exacerbated by guns in the home - and some people are still up in the air about basic gun control.

Amazing.

 

[vi edit]

IL is already pretty restrictive. They just have a lot of guns there coming in illegally from other states. (IN, looking at you).

 

[kt]

Another day, another mass shooting in America as we debate whether gun control is necessary.

January 22, 2023 Monterey Park mass shooting news

Authorities say a 72-year-old man suspected of the mass shooting in Monterey Park, California, was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound after officers approached his vehicle. Follow for live updates.

www.cnn.com

 

[rommelrommel]

i'm curious about the "switches" mentioned. if that's a switch been semi- and auto or burst, that should make the firearm a machinegun, IIRC. which makes the regulation on it out of this world and open up the owners to very stiff penalties for not having a registration.

They absolutely do, and it absolutely is already a serious federal crime. Maybe some benefit to having a parallel state crime?

 

[Pens1566]

IL is already pretty restrictive. They just have a lot of guns there coming in illegally from other states. (IN, looking at you).

This ^. Gary, IN is a great fucking pipeline for it.

 

[hal2kilo]

IL is already pretty restrictive. They just have a lot of guns there coming in illegally from other states. (IN, looking at you).

Like Virgina and DC.

 

[MrSquished]

Like Virgina and DC.

I95 has the nickname the Iron Pipeline. Guns constantly smuggled from shithole southern regressive states that like to sell guns like candy, the iron pipeline delivers them to cities like Baltimore, Philadelphia, NYC and Boston. And a bunch of cities in between.

 

[HomerJS]

IL is already pretty restrictive. They just have a lot of guns there coming in illegally from other states. (IN, looking at you).

More then half of guns confiscated in IL come from out of state

 

[soundforbjt]

More then half of guns confiscated in IL come from out of state

And the two states that contribute the most are Indiana and Kentucky.

 

[KMFJD]

MSN

~Delaware law banning "assault weapons" and standard-capacity magazines that was signed last year, just days after the Supreme Court issued a Second Amendment ruling, is now being challenged by 20 states.

~On July 10, a coalition of 20 states filed an amicus brief supporting the Delaware State Sportsmen's Association in its lawsuit against the Delaware Department of Safety and Homeland Security. The coalition argues two Delaware bills violate the Constitution and that lower courts that upheld the law failed to read the Supreme Court's 2022 Bruen v. New York Rifle & Pistol Association ruling properly, which held gun laws must conform with the nation's historical tradition of firearms regulation.

Not Illinois but Delaware is also banning some guns despite the recent rulings