Illegal Immigrant Passes Moral Fitness Test in Florida

[spacejamz]

Not to mention since he was in the US illegally for more than 1 year then he faces a 10year re-entry bar even if he returned to Mexico and applied for a visa. No matter what he does he's screwed.

too bad his parents didn't consider that when they came over illegally...

 

[MrMuppet]

Let me guess, the only laws that are immoral are the one you disagree with?

Why do you assume I would disagree with any law that is immoral?

 

[spacejamz]

Why do you assume I would disagree with any law that is immoral?

How would you identify an immoral law? The only people who would find it immoral are the ones that disagree with it. To those who supported it, the law would be moral.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

He's a heck of a lot more moral than the Governor who wants to keep people from voting.

Which people does he want to keep from voting? Oh the people that can't legally vote.
Never forget the Dem motto. Vote Early and Vote Often.

 

[kami333]

too bad his parents didn't consider that when they came over illegally...

So you advocate punishing children for the sins of their parents?

 

[BoomerD]

So you advocate punishing children for the sins of their parents?

Yes...if the child is also guilty of said sins.

ALL illegal immigrants should be rounded up and shipped back to whatever country they're from. NO exceptions. Mexico, Guatemala, China, Ireland, came as an adult or dragged across the border as a child, swam across the Rio Grande or just over-stayed a visa...doesn't matter.

Any personal/real property they may own should be impounded and sold to help defray the costs of deportation and any services they "stole" while they were here illegally.

 

[Svnla]

An illegal immigrant can't "make any attempt to become legal". There is NO path to residency... that's what the Republicans call "amnesty" and will never allow.

If he/his family was here the LEGAL way as millions of LEGAL immigrants (as I and my family members were), then he/they would not be in this situation, right? Oh no, get here the LEGAL way? That's for losers and chumps.

Not to mention since he was in the US illegally for more than 1 year then he faces a 10year re-entry bar even if he returned to Mexico and applied for a visa. No matter what he does he's screwed.

Yes, he is screwed.....<wait for it> ....because he/his family did NOT follow the law..ie..they shot themselves in the foot. Oh no...here come more sob stories of why he/his family could not get here the LEGAL way...<open the flood gate>.

 

[JKing106]

What law did he specifically break?

IMO, you can still be legal but not act morally but you are not acting morally if you act illegally.

Fraud. Theft. Being a fucking corporate beautiful being.

Keep repeating that last sentence until you convince yourself it makes sense.

 

[StrangerGuy]

An illegal that works hard, pay taxes and doesn't commit crime does not excuse the fact he is still an illegal. No sympathy for getting caught!

 

[MrColin]

Its not all that easy. I have some Canadian friends that became naturalized US citizens and it cost them around 30k each in bribes and lawyer fees.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Isnt he undocumented, and not illegal?

THere is a legal difference fyi.

EDIT: or so I understand anyway

 

[BoomerD]

Isnt he undocumented, and not illegal?

THere is a legal difference fyi.

No there's not. Undocumented aliens ARE illegal aliens...and vice versa.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Pretty sure I read somewhere something about this...lets see what google brings back...

 

[nehalem256]

Actually, in a fit of conscience, he should have turned his whole family in to immigration.

Who says blood is thicker than water.

You would think that someone who passed a moral fitness test would turn international child traffickers over to the authorities.

 

[glenn1]

He falls under the recently announced plan not to deport children brought here when they were minors and live a law abiding life.

Let the bar grant his law license, then proceed to disbar the partners of any law firm who tries to hire him since it should be pretty easy to demonstrate the lack of moral fitness of an attorney who knowingly hired an illegal alien.

 

[feralkid]

Let the bar grant his law license, then proceed to disbar the partners of any law firm who tries to hire him since it should be pretty easy to demonstrate the lack of moral fitness of an attorney who knowingly hired an illegal alien.

But it's morally fit for the bar to grant a license to a known illegal?

 

[JKing106]

Let the bar grant his law license, then proceed to disbar the partners of any law firm who tries to hire him since it should be pretty easy to demonstrate the lack of moral fitness of an attorney who knowingly hired an illegal alien.

Someone who quotes that sociopath Ayn Rand has no business calling anyone out for immorality.

 

[BoomerD]

California actually has a very similar case going on right now.

http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Illegal-immigrant-can-t-be-lawyer-3758531.php

Illegal immigrants are ineligible to practice law in California, President Obama's Justice Department told the state's high court in a rebuff to a man who was brought to the United States as a toddler and worked his way through college and law school.

Federal law bars the state from issuing an attorney's license to Sergio C. Garcia and would also prohibit him from working as a lawyer, the Justice Department said in a filing Wednesday with the court, which had requested its opinion.

I don't see how an "officer of the court" can be an illegal immigrant when said illegal is in violation of US law just by being in the USA illegally...

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime.


Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Thats a really interesting case Boomer. Wonder if the States rights advocates will leap to California's defense.

 

[MrMuppet]

How would you identify an immoral law?

If a law violates other people's negative liberties, it is immoral.

There is a trade-off between having an expedient (more akin to desirable, well-functioning, practical) society and a moral society.

The only people who would find it immoral are the ones that disagree with it.

Wrong. I may find it expedient, or even just beneficial (to me, personally), and thus agree with it, even though it is immoral. It would appear you are assuming the moralistic fallacy.

To those who supported it, the law would be moral.

Not necessarily, no. But they would hopefully consider it expedient, if they supported it. Though, not necessarily (they may be satisfied with benefitting from it personally).

 

[MrMuppet]

merged all into one post instead

 

[WhipperSnapper]

How did the guy even get into public school without proof of citizenship?

Do you really think the law schools give a crap about whether or not a particular person can pass the character and fitness exam? All they want is the tuition dollars. (The law schools know fully well that more than 50% of their graduates will never find work in the legal field and that long-term more than 60% of their graduates will end up doing something completely unrelated to legal practice.)