IIHS "mid-size" side impact tests. Camry, Accord Good. Other ten rate poor

[NFS4]

Saturn L-Series owners will kick the bucket even with SABs :Q:Q

http://www.hwysafety.org/news_releases/2004/pr041804.htm

 

[UNCjigga]

In other words, Camry and Accord still pwn the mid-size sedan segment.

By side airbags do they mean side-impact airbags in the seat or side-curtain airbags along the headliner, or both? I thought the new Accords came standard with side-impact bags and offered optional side-curtain bags.

 

[CraigRT]

haha, GM on the bottom as usual..

nice work Honda!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Jigga
In other words, Camry and Accord still pwn the mid-size sedan segment.

By side airbags do they mean side-impact airbags in the seat or side-curtain airbags along the headliner, or both? I thought the new Accords came standard with side-impact bags and offered optional side-curtain bags.

The side head curtain airbags are what gave the Camry and Accord such high ratings.

The Saturn L and a few of the others had side head curtain air bags as well, but the curtains didn't extend down far enough so the dummies heads STILL end up striking the platform as it crashed into the car.

PITIFUL!

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Jigga
In other words, Camry and Accord still pwn the mid-size sedan segment.

By side airbags do they mean side-impact airbags in the seat or side-curtain airbags along the headliner, or both? I thought the new Accords came standard with side-impact bags and offered optional side-curtain bags.

Depends on the trim level. LX comes optional with side airbags. EX comes standard with side airbags and has curtain airbags as option. Dateline majorly fvcked up on the pricing for it - they claimed it was a $3000+ option on the Accord. Morons. The difference in price for the side airbags is $250 and curtain airbags is $300. They made it sound like such a ripoff, it's ridiculous.

 

[UNCjigga]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
haha, GM on the bottom as usual..

Well, to their defense, the new Malibu did score an 'acceptable', which is more than what can be said for Nissan, Mazda and others. Too bad the styling isn't 'acceptable'

 

[NFS4]

I wonder why side and head curtain airbags aren't standard anyway??? After looking at those IIHS crash tests on Dateline NBC last night, I don't see how anyone in their right mind could pass on the option to have the safety feature.

You'd either have to be incredibly stupid or too damn cheap to pass if the car you are buying them offers them as an option.

 

[FreshPrince]

I :heart: my camry

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I wonder why side and head curtain airbags aren't standard anyway??? After looking at those IIHS crash tests on Dateline NBC last night, I don't see how anyone in their right mind could pass on the option to have the safety feature.

You'd either have to be incredibly stupid or too damn cheap to pass if the car you are buying them offers them as an option.

They weren't available on the particular color of the car I wanted, at least in dealer stock at 3 different dealers I looked at. Side airbags are standard equipment on Accords starting in 05 according to last night though.

 

[conjur]

"Other car models that earned poor ratings are the Suzuki Verona, Mazda 6"

ZOINKS!

 

[techfuzz]

I missed the Accord test but did see most of the others last night while we were making dinner. I just pray that if I'm going to get in an accident it isn't from the side and with a taller SUV like they used in the tests. My '01 Accord EX has side air bags, but I don't think it has the curtains, anyone know for sure if they don't?

techfuzz

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: techfuzz
I missed the Accord test but did see most of the others last night while we were making dinner. I just pray that if I'm going to get in an accident it isn't from the side and with a taller SUV like they used in the tests. My '01 Accord EX has side air bags, but I don't think it has the curtains, anyone know for sure if they don't?

techfuzz

I doubt that the '01's have side curtain. If they don't, your head is gonna smack up against the bumper and your skull would be playing bumper cars.

 

[techfuzz]

I wonder how the side air bags version of my car would stand up to a side impact then?

techfuzz

 

[SuperTool]

Why did they test the Altima without side impact airbags? Looks like Accord and Camry without SAB's did poorly too.

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Why did they test the Altima without side impact airbags? Looks like Accord and Camry without SAB's did poorly too.

From thecarconnection.com:
The Galant, Altima, Stratus, Sebring, and Mazda6 were tested without optional airbags because the companies were not willing to reimburse IIHS for the optional features.
So it's possible that some of the other cars would have earned "acceptable" or "good" ratings if they had played ball with the IIHS.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: BigSmooth

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Why did they test the Altima without side impact airbags? Looks like Accord and Camry without SAB's did poorly too.

From thecarconnection.com:
The Galant, Altima, Stratus, Sebring, and Mazda6 were tested without optional airbags because the companies were not willing to reimburse IIHS for the optional features.
So it's possible that some of the other cars would have earned "acceptable" or "good" ratings if they had played ball with the IIHS.

Unless they had side CURTAIN airbags, they would have all failed anyway

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: BigSmooth

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Why did they test the Altima without side impact airbags? Looks like Accord and Camry without SAB's did poorly too.

From thecarconnection.com:
The Galant, Altima, Stratus, Sebring, and Mazda6 were tested without optional airbags because the companies were not willing to reimburse IIHS for the optional features.
So it's possible that some of the other cars would have earned "acceptable" or "good" ratings if they had played ball with the IIHS.

Unless they had side CURTAIN airbags, they would have all failed anyway

The 6 and Altima have curtain airbags available. Don't know about the others.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

So giving the buyer the option to not get the side impact bags causes a carmaker to be penalized?

 

[NFS4]

Accord will get standard side head curtain airbags on ALL models in '05 according to NBC Nightly News

 

[Vic]

Don't pull out in front of other cars, don't run red lights, and you won't have to worry about these results.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Vic
Don't pull out in front of other cars, don't run red lights, and you won't have to worry about these results.

That's easy for you to say. But other drivers aren't always as considerate

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Vic
Don't pull out in front of other cars, don't run red lights, and you won't have to worry about these results.

That's easy for you to say. But other drivers aren't always as considerate

I think you're missing something. Except for some rare exceptions, the car getting broadsided in this (somewhat extreme) test would be at fault. Pulled out in front of another car, turned in front of another car, ran a red light, stopped on the tracks , etc. So you really can't blame the "other drivers" here. Only real exception I could think of would be if the other driver ran a stop sign or a "cold" red light (meaning a light that had been red for some time -- most red lights are run right after they turned).

I mean, we're talking about a slow-moving (or stopped) vehicle being broadsided at exactly 90 degrees right in the drivers-side B-pillar by another vehicle doing 31mph. Sounds to me like someone forgot to look both ways before turning left onto the highway.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Vic
Don't pull out in front of other cars, don't run red lights, and you won't have to worry about these results.

If I'm on a through highway and somebody runs a stopsign on a cross road I could get sideswiped. I've nearly had it happen twice. These aren't completely avoidable by being a good driver.

As for the test - where's the Passat?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Vic
Don't pull out in front of other cars, don't run red lights, and you won't have to worry about these results.

If I'm on a through highway and somebody runs a stopsign on a cross road I could get sideswiped. I've nearly had it happen twice. These aren't completely avoidable by being a good driver.

As for the test - where's the Passat?

That example would not meet the parameters of this test. See my post above.

 

[thomsbrain]

the dodge was crushed like tinfoil, check out that pic.

glad my dad drives an accord with side airbags, as he's always getting nailed on the driver's side for some reason (happened twice in a few years).

sounds like everyone else better keep a lookout for trucks, though, since even the accord and camry without side airbags get "poor."