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If you're planning to OC up to 2.2GhZ...

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RobertCane

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Will a 3200+ OC'd to 2.2GhZ run any cooler than a 3000+ OC'd to the same level? If not, obviously there's no reason to get a 3200+ over a 3000+. But I'm interested to hear people's experience/thoughts.
 
Possibly. Sometimes the 3000+ can do it on stock volts. Then you'll be at the same heat level because I'm almost positive a 3200+ can hit 2.2 GHz. If you have a bad 3000+, you may need more volts and so it will run hotter.

There is a reason to get a 3200+ if you plan to OC higher. Typically 3200+s will be better made and have better max temp specifications, and the 10x multiplier is a great help when you want to break 2.8 ghz.
 
No.
The reason I would suggest the 3200+ over the 3000+ is to allow you reach a higher maxium speed, and using the 10x multiplier will make it slightly easier to get there.

If you plan to stop at 2.2, then the 3000+ should get there.
Just realize that there are no guarantees when OC'ing.
 
You want the 10X multi incase your memory isnt up to task. But lemme ask you this, why stop at 2.2 ghz? Latest 3200 cores can hit 2.6 easy on air.
 
All venices will basically reach around the same max. The only advantage to the 3200+ is the 10x multiplier, but with a good board it is unlikely for you to be limited by the HTT.

Also since you are only trying to reach 2.2GHz just get the 3000+.
 
Originally posted by: KoolDrew
All venices will basically reach around the same max. The only advantage to the 3200+ is the 10x multiplier, but with a good board it is unlikely for you to be limited by the HTT.

Also since you are only trying to reach 2.2GHz just get the 3000+.
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Yup. For a 2.2 OC, a 3000+ will do you fine.
 
3000+ on a DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra-D or the Epox NF4 will get you just as high as any 3200+.

3200+ is only for those with HTT limited boards, ie. Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, etc... (Those are just examples, don't flame me)

mine is running smooth @ 2.6GHZ 1.47v
 
Originally posted by: Matt2
3000+ on a DFI LanParty NF4 Ultra-D or the Epox NF4 will get you just as high as any 3200+.

3200+ is only for those with HTT limited boards, ie. Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, etc... (Those are just examples, don't flame me)

mine is running smooth @ 2.6GHZ 1.47v
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A 3200 and a 3500 are probably cut from the same silicon disk, they just have less defects on that particular disc or section of the disc. that's the reason you can overclock to begin with. there is no way to know if you have a chip from a better quality silicon other than the markings on the chip, but that's no guarantee. I am sure no testing is foolproof. They don't visually inspect the chip after it's been manufactured. At least AMD doesn't AFIK. Intel does if they think there is a defect, and they can actually repair it. AT had an article on that a while back.

BFonnes
 
man i wish i had a venice and some nice ram like that nick :thumbsup:
is that on stock HSF and did u change volts? is it stable?
 
wow, its so weird how all I ever hear about is the amd64 3000+ cpu, i own the 2800 version and many times feel like im the only one that does lol

on a side note, any idea how high i could get a MODERATE(not high) overclock on a 2800 with stock cooling, ive ran 2.03 before on stock voltage
 
Originally posted by: SonicIce
man i wish i had a venice and some nice ram like that nick :thumbsup:
is that on stock HSF and did u change volts? is it stable?
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i dont have a venice, its a winchester, although CPU-Z sees it as a newcastle...:roll:

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I use a thermaltake Venus, and the Vcore is up .1, the chipset is up a tad but i forget how much. 😱
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: SonicIce
man i wish i had a venice and some nice ram like that nick :thumbsup:
is that on stock HSF and did u change volts? is it stable?
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i dont have a venice, its a winchester, although CPU-Z sees it as a newcastle...:roll:

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I use a thermaltake Venus, and the Vcore is up .1, the chipset is up a tad but i forget how much. 😱
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nick, update your CPU-Z verison. You have 1.23; I know there's at least version 1.26 (I'm using it) and it reads my Winchester correctly.
 
Originally posted by: Rike
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: SonicIce
man i wish i had a venice and some nice ram like that nick :thumbsup:
is that on stock HSF and did u change volts? is it stable?
Click to expand...

i dont have a venice, its a winchester, although CPU-Z sees it as a newcastle...:roll:

Text

I use a thermaltake Venus, and the Vcore is up .1, the chipset is up a tad but i forget how much. 😱
Click to expand...

nick, update your CPU-Z verison. You have 1.23; I know there's at least version 1.26 (I'm using it) and it reads my Winchester correctly.
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http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php up to 1.30 now. (btw if u press alt+printscreen you'll olny capture the active window)
 
I bought a 3200+ Venice for a customer. I can get it 100% stable@ 1.475 volts. 2600mhz takes 1.5v-1.55 volts. So, I just leave it at 2500mhz. It will do 2400mhz at default voltage however. I may end up leaving it at 2400mhz for him so I don't have to deal with any house calls. And yes, he knows about the overclock. He is perfectly content about it. 🙂


Jason
 
Originally posted by: SonicIce
Originally posted by: Rike
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: SonicIce
man i wish i had a venice and some nice ram like that nick :thumbsup:
is that on stock HSF and did u change volts? is it stable?
Click to expand...

i dont have a venice, its a winchester, although CPU-Z sees it as a newcastle...:roll:

Text

I use a thermaltake Venus, and the Vcore is up .1, the chipset is up a tad but i forget how much. 😱
Click to expand...

nick, update your CPU-Z verison. You have 1.23; I know there's at least version 1.26 (I'm using it) and it reads my Winchester correctly.
Click to expand...

http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php up to 1.30 now. (btw if u press alt+printscreen you'll olny capture the active window)
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Thanks. Updated.
 
Originally posted by: Ike0069
No.
The reason I would suggest the 3200+ over the 3000+ is to allow you reach a higher maxium speed, and using the 10x multiplier will make it slightly easier to get there.

If you plan to stop at 2.2, then the 3000+ should get there.
Just realize that there are no guarantees when OC'ing.
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That isn't always true dude, I hate to tell you, but just becuase the 3200+ is 200Mhz faster to start with you can't always get higher overclock then the 3000+.
 
i hit 2.4ghz w/ my AMD 64 3000. runs great. mobo/RAM shuts down if i go higher. i can do 2.5 but when i test it. it shuts off after 30 mins to an 1hr
 
You can easily get a 3000+ Venice up to 2.5 Ghz on stock cooling with a decent motherboard. DFI, MSI, and EPOX boards will hit HTT/FSB 300 without a problem. Pair it with some decent RAM and you're good to go.
 
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