Ok the article is more than a little misleading, especially the link to the *leading Muslim lawyer in the UK*.
For starters it's not a BBC article, it's fox linking to an article in The Sun of all things... i.e. Rupert Murdochs main tabloid paper in the UK so lets get that out of the way first.
Now the next problem... it conveniently links to this video on Youtube which shows an episode of Hard Talk which is run on BBC's news 24.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4&feature=related
Scary stuff.... except that it conveniently leaves out most of the other pertinent information that can be got from this interview. This isn't just about *context* it's about the relevance of the guy spouting what he claims to be pure literal Muslim views. Anyone who wishes to have an informed debate on this particular article, I'd strongly suggest you watch the rest of the interview.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=frqofl-N2Y0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8NK2CIqUgFE&feature=related
When regularly pressed on the fact that he's going against not only *moderate* but mainstream views and even people he'd quoted from himself he just continues to dither and change topic to Iraq / Afghanistan. Having watched the interview in it's entirety it actually becomes clear that if anything he holds little real sway over key elements of the Muslim community in the UK. He also never actually condones the killings that misleading, he states that God will judge whether or not the bombers followed sharia or not.. not some random Muslim Imam or cleric.
While I agree that's a total cop-out and pretty low of him not to categorically condemn the attacks, at least let his own stupidity be born out in it's fullest. The original clip fox link to cuts off at convenient points to make it seem like he's sanctioning killing of non Muslims as being perfectly ok.
This guy has been marginalised by his own community, the foundation that he created have lost any kind of support and disbanded... even if his view WAS the literal translation of the Quaran it's like saying that this nutjob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kF1J4s0dxM
Speaks for all Christians. Even Hannity can see that she is a whacko.
To those who would claim that this is the true face of Islam and that all Muslims agree with this I have some points I'd like to put to you.
The whole point of the fox article, if you click on the link to Islam Watch is actually that Muslims were questioning this rapist as to how any Muslim cleric could ever condone the killing and raping of kafirs.
From the article itself over at Islam Watch. *Linked for those who can be bothered to read it*.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Aye...to-Carry-Out-Sunna.htm
Naqabi Woman: ?One eyed hooked Imam Hamza Mesri said muslims can kill British infidels and have sex with their wives and daughters, Do you agree with him??
Imam: ?It is not what Imam Hamza said nor is there a question of my agreeing with him or not. It is in Quran thus those are Allah?s orders.?
N.W.: ?But why would Allah tell muslims to kill and rape innocent non muslims??
?Because Non-muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet. If you don?t believe me, here is the legal authority, the top muslim lawyer of Britain, Anjem Choudhary
So basically... a rapist is claiming the guy in the video gives him moral authority to Rape kafirs... right.... and this somehow reflects all of Islam and all Muslims?
Now like Fox News I will attempt to be Fair and Balanced. The Islam watch article then goes on to point out that the Imam cites that
N.W. ? But our Prophet was sent as a mercy for all the humanity; he never hurt any body in his life?
Imam: ?Yes he never hurt a muslim in his life. But Allah said non-muslim are lowest beasts and worst creatures in ayas 8.22,8.55,95.5 and 98.6 and muslim are ordered to kill them."
N.W.:? But did prophet approve of killing them and raping their wives??
Imam: ?Yes he did. He not only approved of such acts, he and his sahabas practiced it regularly under Allah?s orders. He was helpless in it... If you don?t believe me , you have to believe sahih hadiths.
... pretty nasty stuff huh...
Now lets see what a Hadith is for those who don't know.
In Islamic terminology, the term hadith refers to reports about the statements or actions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, or about his tacit approval of something said or done in his presence.[3] Classical hadith specialist Ibn Hajar says that the intended meaning of "hadith" in religious tradition is something attributed to Muhammad, as opposed to the Qur'an.
So it's not actually in the Qur'an... blurs the assertion a little then... seems like it could be open to interpretation.
Continuing on the article shows the Naqabi womans discomfort at this idea.
The description of the steamy all night action between the 62 year old Prophet and teenage Safia left the niqabi woman very depressed and the male audience very horny. Imam himself got excited and started thinking about the possibility of killing an infidel and raping his wife, who knows Allah could reward him with paradaise for following in the footsteps of his most beloved apostle..
I'd suggest you read the rest of the article over at Islam watch...
Wouldn't waste your time with the sensationalist sun article since it says even less of any use to any real debate on the topic.
My personal interpretation of events.
Sick rapist bastard tries to claim religion as an excuse for raping an innocent woman. Thought he was too clever for his own good but got caught out by DNA. I'm fairly sure most muslims would object to their local Imam raping some random woman then getting seven others to lie on his behalf + try to claim that this was doing the work of Allah.
Anyway I have to go hide under the covers... there's a muslim girl renting the room next door and I think she might rape me after reading this article.
NB/ Sheffield... I appreciate you being out in Afghanistan and everything, whats with the constant bringing up of Hindu terrorism though? You seem to be bringing it up in an awful lot of threads recently it's not really adding anything to your arguments. I have enough mates out there in Afghanistan with you to understand the constant f'ing and blinding but you could maybe tone it down a bit if you want people to have a sensible debate with you .