If you're an atheist should you not at least believe in aliens?

[rivan]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: chambersc
Why does one have to believe anything? This is my argument against organized religion and political parties.

cause if you don't believe in something you'll fall for anything.

I believe in "Trust, but verify."

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
There's plenty of evidence of a big bang-- just because you don't understand it doesn't make it circumstantial. For example, all of the galaxies in the universe are moving away from one another.

Technically that is not exactly true, otherwise there wouldn't be galaxies colliding... but I know what you meant

As to the question, I think it's a near certainty that aliens, or at least life of some sort, exists elsewhere in the universe. There is simply too much out there for this to not be true. Also, I don't think having a religion of some sort means you automatically don't believe in life on other planets. Some members of other religions may refuse to believe that intelligent life similar to humans may exist on other planets, but I don't know why they couldn't believe that other planets might be inhabited by plants/animals/etc...

 

[torpid]

How can you not believe in aliens? They are taking all our jobs.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: torpid
How can you not believe in aliens? They are taking all our jobs.

"They took our jooooobs!!" - obligatory Southpark reference

 

[judasmachine]

I'm an atheist, and I'd love to believe in aliens, but I haven't had the chance to meet one yet. Somewhere out there, most likely, right here, probably not.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: So
Why? We have a sample population of ONE.

Ah yes. The primeval atom was a "sample population of one". The first amoeba to split on earth was a "sample population of one". The first fish to crawl onto dry land was a "sample population of one".

Given the gangbuster success of the previous sample populations of one, I don't see how can let that stop you.

Mathematically, would you say the probability is greater or less than 50%?

wtf is a primeval atom?

and mathematically, with a sample size of one, you cannot state if the probability is greater or less than 50%.

I thought that's what was purported to be the source of the big bang. My bad.

So, to an atheist, the probability that God exists is the same as the probability that aliens exist?

 

[tweakmm]

Jesus is an alien, he mows my lawn every other week.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: So
Why? We have a sample population of ONE.

Ah yes. The primeval atom was a "sample population of one". The first amoeba to split on earth was a "sample population of one". The first fish to crawl onto dry land was a "sample population of one".

Given the gangbuster success of the previous sample populations of one, I don't see how can let that stop you.

Mathematically, would you say the probability is greater or less than 50%?

wtf is a primeval atom?

and mathematically, with a sample size of one, you cannot state if the probability is greater or less than 50%.

I thought that's what was purported to be the source of the big bang. My bad.

So, to an atheist, the probability that God exists is the same as the probability that aliens exist?

God in what sense? I feel it's very likely that there some other life form out in the universe. As far as god goes, I don't care, I live my life, I live it my way and only my way. If there's a god, then that's how he wants me to do it. If there isn't a god, then I not wasting my time worshiping something thats not there.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Given that there are, what, 500,000,000,000 stars in just our galaxy and there are probably well more than 200,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe.

If you're an atheist, you usually dont just "believe" in things. You need some sort of proof.

Since there is no proof, or any reasonable evidence pointing towards it, I'd have to say absolutely not.

Circumstantial evidence for aliens is no different than circumstantial evidence for a deity.

Actually there is PLENTY of proof.. its just all classified beyond top secret by our so called leaders..

Governments dont spend billions on things like "project blue book" if they dont at least suspect things are real... and the findings even though declassified now were so edited for national security that there could be anything written in the briefs.

and what about our own professional sane... Military Pilots and Commercial pilots that see things and radar stations that confirm only to have the governement come and tell you "you didnt see anything"

bullcrap..

soemthing did happen at roswell.. area 51 is more than just a skunkworks aircraft and wep prooving ground...
and project bluebook and other programs have existed.

we are definatly not alone.

HAHAHA!! :laugh:

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
What do aliens have to do with faith?

Aliens are the pseudoscience religion form of God.

Originally posted by: bsobel

Circumstantial evidence for aliens is no different than circumstantial evidence for a deity.

No different? It's completely different. The belief in an entity (in the Christian sense) presumes something that lives 'outside' the laws of nature while the concept that aliens could exist occurs within our laws of nature. Comparing the two is just stupid, and people who think its valid to do so really don't understand religion or science.

I suggest you study your religion again. And your science while you're at it too.

Basically, believing in God or believing in aliens requires the same type and level of faith. "Somewhere over the rainbow" there are magical beings that can save us. No proof of these magical beings exist, except for conjecture on both sides about how the universe (or creation, depending on which side you're on) is too big and too grand for them not to exist.

 

[linkgoron]

I don't "believe" in Aliens.

I do, however, think that it's very likely that there are.
I just don't think there are aliens that look like us, or have arms/legs/face/eyes/whatever. Anyway, if there are aliens I think that they are probably far away from us, (thousands? millions? I don't know) light years away.

 

[Red Dawn]

Hmm maybe if all the Religions weren't so utterly ridiculous I might be able to have faith.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: So
Why? We have a sample population of ONE.

Ah yes. The primeval atom was a "sample population of one". The first amoeba to split on earth was a "sample population of one". The first fish to crawl onto dry land was a "sample population of one".

Given the gangbuster success of the previous sample populations of one, I don't see how can let that stop you.

Mathematically, would you say the probability is greater or less than 50%?

wtf is a primeval atom?

and mathematically, with a sample size of one, you cannot state if the probability is greater or less than 50%.

I thought that's what was purported to be the source of the big bang. My bad.

So, to an atheist, the probability that God exists is the same as the probability that aliens exist?

No.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Vic
Basically, believing in God or believing in aliens requires the same type and level of faith. "Somewhere over the rainbow" there are magical beings that can save us. No proof of these magical beings exist, except for conjecture on both sides about how the universe (or creation, depending on which side you're on) is too big and too grand for them not to exist.

No, it's not the same. Believing in aliens doesn't require the same amount of faith because we have ourselves, plus the millions of other lifeforms on this planet, as proof that life does exist. The only question is whether or not life has arisen somewhere else among the billions of galaxies. There is no physical proof that any god exists.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Given that there are, what, 500,000,000,000 stars in just our galaxy and there are probably well more than 200,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe.

If you're an atheist, you usually dont just "believe" in things. You need some sort of proof.

Since there is no proof, or any reasonable evidence pointing towards it, I'd have to say absolutely not.

Circumstantial evidence for aliens is no different than circumstantial evidence for a deity.

The big bang. A missing link. Don't tell me atheists require more than circumstancial evidence.

Do you understand the words that come out of your own mouth? If aetheists believed in crap just from circumstancial evidence then they wouldn't be friggin aetheists.

Nice troll.

 

[JackBurton]

You're not smart, give it up.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hmm maybe if all the Religions weren't so utterly ridiculous I might be able to have faith.

I have faith despite religion.
I dont let other folks fearmongering get it the way of my belief.
Me and god are cool. We get along.
I just choose to ignore all the assholes who want me to believe in their gods and acknowledge them their way.

 

[irishScott]

The only evidence for god and aliens are the laws of probability.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Vic
Basically, believing in God or believing in aliens requires the same type and level of faith. "Somewhere over the rainbow" there are magical beings that can save us. No proof of these magical beings exist, except for conjecture on both sides about how the universe (or creation, depending on which side you're on) is too big and too grand for them not to exist.

No, it's not the same. Believing in aliens doesn't require the same amount of faith because we have ourselves, plus the millions of other lifeforms on this planet, as proof that life does exist. The only question is whether or not life has arisen somewhere else among the billions of galaxies. There is no physical proof that any god exists.

Thank you for proving that the believing in aliens and God requires the exact same circular logic.
We exist, so aliens must exist.
-or-
We exist, so God must exist because he created us.

It. is. the. same.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: irishScott
The only evidence for god and aliens are the laws of probability.

Bingo.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Vic
Thank you for proving that the believing in aliens and God requires the exact same circular logic.
We exist, so aliens must exist.
-or-
We exist, so God must exist because he created us.

It. is. the. same.

Wow... weak logic there. The second is based on a belief in a "magical" being, the first just requires belief that life similar to what we know exists exists elsewhere. Not. The. Same.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Vic
Thank you for proving that the believing in aliens and God requires the exact same circular logic.
We exist, so aliens must exist.
-or-
We exist, so God must exist because he created us.

It. is. the. same.

Sweet, I'm gonna use this on my jehovas witness friend, I love fvcking with him. lets just hope he doesnt believe in aliens.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Vic
Thank you for proving that the believing in aliens and God requires the exact same circular logic.
We exist, so aliens must exist.
-or-
We exist, so God must exist because he created us.

It. is. the. same.

Wow... weak logic there. The second is based on a belief in a "magical" being, the first just requires belief that life similar to what we know exists exists elsewhere. Not. The. Same.

Really? And how are aliens, flitting through the sky in their faster-than-light flying saucers, any less "magical" than God?

 

[msparish]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Vic
Thank you for proving that the believing in aliens and God requires the exact same circular logic.
We exist, so aliens must exist.
-or-
We exist, so God must exist because he created us.

It. is. the. same.

Wow... weak logic there. The second is based on a belief in a "magical" being, the first just requires belief that life similar to what we know exists exists elsewhere. Not. The. Same.

Really? And how are aliens, flitting through the sky in their faster-than-light flying saucers, any less "magical" than God?

Who said the aliens are flying around in their saucers?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: msparish

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Vic
Thank you for proving that the believing in aliens and God requires the exact same circular logic.
We exist, so aliens must exist.
-or-
We exist, so God must exist because he created us.

It. is. the. same.

Wow... weak logic there. The second is based on a belief in a "magical" being, the first just requires belief that life similar to what we know exists exists elsewhere. Not. The. Same.

Really? And how are aliens, flitting through the sky in their faster-than-light flying saucers, any less "magical" than God?

Who said the aliens are flying around in their saucers?

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Actually there is PLENTY of proof.. its just all classified beyond top secret by our so called leaders..

Governments dont spend billions on things like "project blue book" if they dont at least suspect things are real... and the findings even though declassified now were so edited for national security that there could be anything written in the briefs.

and what about our own professional sane... Military Pilots and Commercial pilots that see things and radar stations that confirm only to have the governement come and tell you "you didnt see anything"

bullcrap..

soemthing did happen at roswell.. area 51 is more than just a skunkworks aircraft and wep prooving ground...
and project bluebook and other programs have existed.

we are definatly not alone.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: torpid
How can you not believe in aliens? They are taking all our jobs.

"They took our jooooobs!!" - obligatory Southpark reference

Hm, I always thought of it more like an E sound.

"Dey Took air JERRRRRRbbs!"