if you're a gamer, is there any point to buying a P4 over an Athlon64?

[acejj26]

besides cost concern, if you are buying a computer right now for gaming, is there any sense in buying a S478 P4 over a S754 A64 based system? it seems to me like that A64 ranges from equivalent to far superior over the P4 for gaming. your guys thoughts??

 

[Stunt]

Alliances...Most people buy gaming machines from a dealer...ie. dell (sadly enough)
Convince the US's leading PC maker then they will have gaming machines based on the best technology.

 

[acejj26]

gaming pc from dell....that's pretty funny

anyways, i was kind of aiming this towards those of us who build our own....anyone have any ideas?

 

[Stunt]

ugh...dell does make gaming rigs...why would they offer 9800's with the systems, it is a major market for them, i actually think they are making a gaming laptop with a p4ee in it.

but ur other question:

they still falsly believe that intel is more stable.
they are too stubborn to use amd machines.
they do more than gaming -> ie game and media encode.

 

[Regs]

The only thing I would consider is the A64 3000. On the new boards they overclock very easily even with a top lock mulitplyer. So it will be like getting a 3.4 or even a 3.6C Ghz P4 for the price of 220 dollars.

 

[Regs]

they still falsly believe that intel is more stable.
they are too stubborn to use amd machines.
they do more than gaming -> ie game and media encode.

That myth is gone ever since the k7 CPU. K5s k6's were trash.
Not that their stubborn, its just how the market is. Intel is a better known name and contracts have been signed.
Intels has the advantage in media encoding and 3D mathematical intensive programs, yes. However the margin has been growing smaller and smaller.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Stunt
ugh...dell does make gaming rigs...why would they offer 9800's with the systems, it is a major market for them, i actually think they are making a gaming laptop with a p4ee in it.

but ur other question:

they still falsly believe that intel is more stable.
they are too stubborn to use amd machines.
they do more than gaming -> ie game and media encode.

Dell made a special gaming PC, it was slower than the Anandtech made one, IIRC. (Same parts I think).

 

[Regs]

I actually would have retract my statement about the intel having the advantage of Media encoding. It seems like the new socket 939 A64's have pretty much tied the ranks.

 

[jrphoenix]

No... Athlon 64 > Intel for gaming. That is one reason why I won't by an Intel proc for my upcoming computer. If I was into video editing like my buddy..... then I might consider it

Even then.... I don't care for buying from the "wal-mart" of the computer industry. well..... maybe the Wal-mart desgination fits Dell better??

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

As a lifetime Intel user who is looking to upgrade his 2.53 northwood gaming machine, even I cant think of a reason to go with Intel at this point in time. However, I wouldnt choose a S754 being as S939 is where its headed, and the NForce 3 looks smoking. In the next few months, I will be building my first AMD based machine ever.

 

[SonicIce]

people only recignize intel. (i.e. the intel inside commercials on tv). so people think intel is better and dont know a thing about hardware.

 

[Delorian]

Originally posted by: SonicIce
people only recignize intel. (i.e. the intel inside commercials on tv). so people think intel is better and dont know a thing about hardware.

Hey I liked the Blue Man Group commercials! Not that I'd buy one for gaming anyhow...