If you use the toliet you are ruining the environment!

[CADsortaGUY]

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Boy, I needed a good laugh

**note** - Yes, water conservation is a good thing but these guys are just plain nuts!

CkG

 

[Linflas]

Actually after the Feds stuck their collective noses into toilet specs they are an environmental disaster. It now takes on average 4 1.5 gallon flushes to accomplish what used to work 99% of the time with 1 3 gallon flush.

 

[tcsenter]

'Celebration of primitivism'

Translation: We should all run around with nasty dingleberries like our ancestors did.

Like your average environut, I'm sure he doesn't even practice anything he preaches.

There is no way that 6 billion people will not have serious adverse impact on the planet and environment, even if we were to all run around in loin clothes and live in dung huts.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Boy, I needed a good laugh

**note** - Yes, water conservation is a good thing but these guys are just plain nuts!

CkG

These guys may have sincere beliefs backed by solid science, but I just don't care. I believe in protecting the environment, but you have to draw the line somewhere. I'll stick with flushing, thank you very much.

 

[43st]

We were actually looking into one of those toilets for a guest house on the farm. It makes sense if you're living far away from the world and don't want to add another sewage tank or deal with the pipes freezing in the winter.

I'd agree that getting a suburban family to think about anything other than a conventional crapper would be hard. If they don't sell it at Home/Builders/Lowes/Walmart Depot then it might as well not exist.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Thera
We were actually looking into one of those toilets for a guest house on the farm. It makes sense if you're living far away from the world and don't want to add another sewage tank or deal with the pipes freezing in the winter.

I'd agree that getting a suburban family to think about anything other than a conventional crapper would be hard. If they don't sell it at Home/Builders/Lowes/Walmart Depot then it might as well not exist.

You mean the "out-house" composter? I agree that it is a cool idea as far as outhouses go but for everyday urban household(or apratment living) use - it would be very impractical.

Now, I'm no tree hugger but if I owned my house I'd look into how I could make my toilets "water-free". Heck it'd probably save me money(motivating factor )

CkG

 

[ReiAyanami]

ewww, so thats where organic fruit comes from

 

[BOBDN]

Has anyone visited their local sewage treatment facility lately?

All that $H!T has to be going somewhere. And another 4 or 5 billion toilets would put a strain on any ocean.

Do you think the stuff just disappears?

Water is the planet's largest reusable resource. If we use our water supply for a toilet......well, you know the old saying about not $H!TTING where you eat.

Point is there is the water system is finite, there is a limit to the amount of waste any system can handle. Alternatives should be investigated before we reach that level. I don't like brown water. :frown:

 

[43st]

You mean the "out-house" composter?

Outhouses are a real pain to maintain properly. The waste needs to be treated on a regular basis to insure it rots properly. An outhouse isn't as simple as a hole in the ground.

I was talking about one of those incinerator toilets. It basically collects the crap and turns it into ashes. It's a very clean process and it requires no water or sewage pipes.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: Thera

You mean the "out-house" composter?

Outhouses are a real pain to maintain properly. The waste needs to be treated on a regular basis to insure it rots properly. An outhouse isn't as simple as a hole in the ground.

I was talking about one of those incinerator toilets. It basically collects the crap and turns it into ashes. It's a very clean process and it requires no water or sewage pipes.

I've had the unfortunate opportunity to use latrines. The crapcinerator sounds like a real improvement.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Actually after the Feds stuck their collective noses into toilet specs they are an environmental disaster. It now takes on average 4 1.5 gallon flushes to accomplish what used to work 99% of the time with 1 3 gallon flush.

Linflas, the low flush toilets have improved. It is an area in which picking a good one over buying the cheapest may save some headaches.

The following page while from a dealer does have some good information.

A report on low flow water efficient toilets

"With the changes in the water usage laws of 1992, many encountered plumbing problems. The first round of low-flow toilets were not quite ready for prime-time. Customer complaints were many and plumbers were in the bad position of installing products that nobody wanted to use. Recently, in the wonderful world of plumbing, things have changed with new and updated products. Some of the new plumbing products work better than the old water wasters. The purpose of this report, is to identify which products are"


""Switching to water-efficient plumbing fixtures could save the average household as much as $50 to $100 a year on water and wastewater bills." George Whalen "

The town I live in is raising water rates to pay for a new water treatment plant. I've been doing some research to see if it is cost-effective to replace an old toilet. It looks as if it would take about three years to recover the costs. Also, lower utility costs and an updated appliance would add to the selling cost.

 

[Nitemare]

Guess I am a real anti-environmentalist(2-3 flusher)

 

[alkemyst]

civilization ruins the environmental theoretically. Whether it's today or 100 years+ from now, we will reach a population that is too much for our world's resources...there will be no where new to move to and no more room for crops/livestock. Prior to that time we will probably be on lab created food pills or similar as we burn food crops to put more homes.

That's one of the catch 22's of the world.