If you torrent, the feds start tracking you within 3hrs

brainhulk

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http://gizmodo.com/5940271/every-time-you-torrent-feds-log-your-ip-in-just-three-hours

Anyone who has downloaded pirated music, video or ebooks using a BitTorrent client has probably had their IP address logged by copyright-enforcement authorities within three hours of doing so. So say computer scientists who placed a fake pirate server online—and very quickly found monitoring systems checking out who was taking what from the servers.

The news comes from this week's SecureComm conference in Padua, Italy, where computer security researcher Tom Chothia and his colleagues at the University of Birmingham, UK, revealed they have discovered "massive monitoring" of BitTorrent download sites, such as the PirateBay, has been taking place for at least three years.

:sneaky:
 

BUTCH1

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It's that paranoia that prevents me from doing it, I've got enough on my plate without dealing with any hassles that may arise from stealing..
 

OverVolt

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The CD's were the distribution medium, thats what the record companies really owned, the medium. R-e-c-o-r-d company.

I'm not a fan of ad free, free music, its not a viable business model. Musicians deserve compensation. The record companies on the other hand, simply acted childish when presented with change in their industry. Its their own industry so they should have been monitoring for threats like "improved ways to distribute music" woulda been high on the list there, instead of innovating they just sued the hell out of people. So I don't like them either.

In a bizzaro world where the record companies saw the internet and immediately capitalized on it as a distribution medium and worked with say...apple, they would probably be hugely successful. Instead they just cry, and cry, and cry. Its sad that they win their legal cases, because it just promotes them to cry and cry more. So now the music industry is the crying industry.
 
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MrColin

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http://theoatmeal.com/comics/music_industry
In a bizzaro world where the record companies saw the internet and immediately capitalized on it as a distribution medium and worked with say...apple, they would probably be hugely successful. Instead they just cry, and cry, and cry. Its sad that they win their legal cases, because it just promotes them to cry and cry more. So now the music industry is the crying industry.
I believe Apple (iTunes), and Amazon make it possible for artists to publish and get paid now. Apple really does go too far with censorship and thought policing with their app store and such IMO. I would like to see something easy enough for musicians to use to get paid that doesn't rape them like the old fashioned record label business model did though.
Sure, giving 97% of the proceeds to the labels enabled them to do marketing and enjoy some vertical integration with other areas of the industry, but it also put a lot of power in the hands of d-bags and ended up encouraging a lame monoculture of "popular" music.
 
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polarmystery

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The feds are going to bust me for using Blizzards torrent based downloader to update my version of WoW :(



/sarcasm
 

jagec

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It's that paranoia that prevents me from doing it, I've got enough on my plate without dealing with any hassles that may arise from stealing..

FFS, it's not stealing and no one with two brain cells to knock together thinks that it's stealing, including RIAA. If it were stealing, the financial penalties for doing it would be much lower.

It's copyright infringement, it's illegal, and you shouldn't do it, but it ain't stealing.
 

mmntech

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I have to ask, what else are they monitoring? Good advertisement for VPNs and TOR.
 

OCGuy

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America is kind of like a real life Clint Eastwood. Used to really be something but...

Yea, we used to house the UN, run NATO, win the most olympic medals, have the most accurate and best nuclear force in the world along with the most advanced military and #1 GDP.




Wait...
 
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EagleKeeper

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FFS, it's not stealing and no one with two brain cells to knock together thinks that it's stealing, including RIAA. If it were stealing, the financial penalties for doing it would be much lower.

It's copyright infringement, it's illegal, and you shouldn't do it, but it ain't stealing.

Have you paid for it?

Are you using it?

Do you have permission to use it without paying for it?
 

OCGuy

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My internet was out when I got home yesterday. I plugged my computer directly into the modem to try and isolate the problem, and a Time Warner message came up saying I violated some MPAA bullshit and my modem was quarentiened.

It said "See bottom of letter for exact Movie or TV show that caused this"

I looked....nothing was named. Funny thing is, not only do I not torrent (I have a job), I don't even have a torrent program installed. My router is secured.

WTF?
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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The CD's were the distribution medium, thats what the record companies really owned, the medium. R-e-c-o-r-d company.

I'm not a fan of ad free, free music, its not a viable business model. Musicians deserve compensation. The record companies on the other hand, simply acted childish when presented with change in their industry. Its their own industry so they should have been monitoring for threats like "improved ways to distribute music" woulda been high on the list there, instead of innovating they just sued the hell out of people. So I don't like them either.

In a bizzaro world where the record companies saw the internet and immediately capitalized on it as a distribution medium and worked with say...apple, they would probably be hugely successful. Instead they just cry, and cry, and cry. Its sad that they win their legal cases, because it just promotes them to cry and cry more. So now the music industry is the crying industry.


though they did something just as smart though not sure long term.

they bought and paid for the US government. they have the US at its mercy. they can make them do whatever they want. in doing so they can make other nations of the world do what they want.

now they have laws that say each MP3 found on your computer is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. IF you distribute them? it can cost you millions.

i think it was a smart move. of course the really smart move would be what you said and what they did.
 

waggy

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My internet was out when I got home yesterday. I plugged my computer directly into the modem to try and isolate the problem, and a Time Warner message came up saying I violated some MPAA bullshit and my modem was quarentiened.

It said "See bottom of letter for exact Movie or TV show that caused this"

I looked....nothing was named. Funny thing is, not only do I not torrent (I have a job), I don't even have a torrent program installed. My router is secured.

WTF?


someone had your IP. now you are fucked. expect a letter from the MPAA soon offering to let it go for $4k or they will sue.

no. i am not kidding that is what they do.
 

OCGuy

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someone had your IP. now you are fucked. expect a letter from the MPAA soon offering to let it go for $4k or they will sue.

no. i am not kidding that is what they do.

Nah, won't happen. Besides, courts are now ruling that an IP address is not a person.


Also, in order to get my internet service back, I had to agree to "secure my router and speak with the people in my home" to make sure it doesn't happen again.

What they are trying to do is be able to show a court that they warned me, so if it happens again, the "open router" excuse might not hold up.