if you think a master (i.e. a head of State) is necessary

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Anarchist420

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then what percentage of people do you think dont need to be partially or fully slaves for their own safety?

anyway, i realize that anarchy is digital and that we dont live in a digital world, that too many people inherently gravitate towards authority for there to be more than 20% of the world population not governed at any time and that there is really only one type of State, and that just as there cannot be zero world govt, there can be no one world govt as the world is not digital (a confederation is not a State because a confederation is not hierarchical and a one world govt is not possible because nothing in this world is absolute).

i also realize that we cant just reinstate the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union because it would just be replaced again right away (the current governors want to use the guise of "efficiency" and to reform, rather than reduce aggression), there would need to be more sovereigns in it for it to last more than ~7 years yet it didnt recognize secession, and old public debt should never burden people no longer in the old state; then there were some fatal powers in it like the confederation having the power to create money and some recognition of the confederation to nationalize land). however...

we also cant expect anywhere near enough liberty (or advancement and happiness as more advancement happens when there is less aggression) if we have a large State like we do now as no large State can be expected to be good for most subjected to it when few people support the human right of exit or even secession.

so my conclusions are that:
zero world govt would be best (but it will never happen), most of the world will be governed at any given time in the future, that confederalism with recognition of and support for the individual right of exit are necessary for liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that IF there is a heaven (i dont think there is but i know i wont be going there forever regardless) then those who go there get to have the gift economic system of Old Europe mixed with the best of the past and future, that secession can only be defended by a leader like che guevara (although more liberty minded and preferrably a female i will always find incredibly sexy and who will not find me sexually unattractive), and that a leader like me/george washington should not be around until secession is safe and sound due to our elitism/conservatism... secession can only be safe once it is made sure that there are no alexander hamiltons around (highly intelligent power-hungry pro-aggression men) who want to use george washington/me as the sword (i.e., a tool, as of which i really am) to restore the old order and once the leader of the movement is sure that i will not be angry with the new, free environment. that could be done by the leader of the secessionists, me and her and all of her other friends being true friends for life (supporting me and other people in her jurisdiction with minimal aggression), outliving me, and forming a group of people who make monitors, drivers, and maybe some other applications anyway i wanted them whenever i wanted them as long as those producers felt compensated (and all done without any aggression).
 

IronWing

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...that secession can only be defended by a leader like che guevara (although more liberty minded and preferrably a female i will always find incredibly sexy and who will not find me sexually unattractive)...
Pure gold.
 

Jimzz

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Pure gold.

yep :)


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Samuel 8:4-18
4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead[b] us, such as all the other nations have.”
6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”
10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle[c] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”


Go read the Bible, Anarchist.
 

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The leader needs to be safely counter-balanced but in the words of Bruce Williams

Anything with more than one head is a monster.
 

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Go read the Bible, Anarchist.
thank you for the advice, but i have realized that my natural State (i.e., before any aggression had been committed) is property or somewhere between property and free.

slaves are property because they would be leeches if they were free... my mother could never produce anything (be it material or love/spiritual support which means nothing expected in return) so she was a consumer. her mother was a net consumer (and i would say the biggest offender of the three generations up until me and my brothers) and my great-grandmother was a net consumer who paid for my grandmother to live with strangers so that my great-grandmother could work. so considering all of that, i believe that the natural state of the vast majority of those classified as human is property according to the doctrine of partus sequitur ventrem... i am definitely naturally part of the tyrannical majority of the world and the only reason i dont always appear to be tyrant is because of my poor productive father who has done such a good job caring for me and everyone else he meets.

and all of that does make me wish for a secure suicide with as close to zero pain as possible and the sooner it happens the better.

i believe that Nature's God will forgive those like my father as Nature's God forgives his own even for having sex with the species naturally opposed to his own. but if i have a soul, then it is damned so i am hoping i do not have a soul though and that i never will have a soul.

and i also believe that nothing known to anyone alive today is actually the original word of Nature's God (although the Judeo-Christian Old Testament seems like it isnt too far off), but thank you anyway lithium381:)
 
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