If you SUV owners are so concerned about "Safety"

[tcsenter]

Black ice is the great equalizer, it renders all tires equally useless, except for perhaps aggressive metal-studded or chained tires, which are not permitted in many states.

I've driven this stretch of I-96 many dozens of times and it can become treacherous in the winter due to driving crosswinds 'polishing' the hard-packed snow into a super smooth layer of ice. I had to drive 20-30MPH for nearly 40 miles one time because it was so absurdly slippery along intermittent areas of the road. I watched two dozen people spin out in front, behind, and across the median from me who were driving too fast. You couldn't reliably discern or predict where the ice was until your car began to slide or spin off the road. There were stretches with several cars in the median or ditch feet apart from each other, where they hit the same patch of ice and spun out.

My whole body was sore the next day, but particularly my hands, because I was so damned tensed up for the entire 40 miles. Nightmare.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
suvs roll over killing their occupants, they crush other cars with their mismatched bumpers which are needlessly high, they sometimes even have vanity metal grates on the front which really fatally crush pedestrians or bicyclists that get hit, they are high enough with high enough of a center of gravity to jump over freeway barriers in crashes or loss of control, effectively slaughtering people on the other side. they are marketed pretty much as cars, people don't drive them any safer, in fact the power trip it gives people probably makes them more aggressive. the stopping distance/avoidance manuevers all suck in suv's. their internal space is ussually less then that of an equivalent minivan which are far safer for their occupants and other cars. but u know, who wants to drive a minivan, its all about image, image at the expense of others safety. and yes, they suck gas.

if you don't regularly haul stuff around, ur just a vain inconsiderate Ass for driving one.

i like how those firefighters jumped into the explorer in new york when the building was collapsing on them and survived. dman suvs.

 

[Freejack2]

Originally posted by: Ornery
I'd rather be a living, vain, SUV driver than a squished ricer anyday! 😀

I'd rather be a living, vain, Kenworth Grand Dominator driver than a squished SUV driver anyday. 😛

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: 3L33T32003
Why aren't you driving a Mercedes, a Volvo, or, for that matter, a Kia wagon? The Kia, for example, is the only Minivan to get 5 star crash ratings on all 4 corners. No SUV has done that.

Suddenly the whole "safety" issue goes to the wayside and we are talking ego again.

I always said...the higher the driver seat, the smaller the pen!s.

LOL! 😀

Flame bait thread, naturally...

But on the off chance that you're serious...

You get in that Kia Wagon and I'll crash into you with my Suburban... Hey, why are you shaking your head no? 😀

: ) Hopper

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Test results can be compared only among vehicles of similar weight. Like full-width crash test results, the results of offset tests cannot be used to compare vehicle performance across weight classes.

And there is of course the truth of the matter...

Regardless of all other safey design factors, a 6,000lb truck crashing into a 2,000lb car is not going to bode well for the people in the car, no matter how well designed.

If size didn't matter, then that Kia Wagon should come out ahead in an accident with an 18-wheel tractor trailer. 😀

: ) Hopper

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
There was an accident near Grand Rapids a few years ago during the winter on I-96. A woman driving a 1995 GMC Suburban hit a patch of black ice and started to spin. She slid across the median backwards and into the opposite lanes, was hit by a tractor-trailer from behind, spun around twice, and hit by another tractor-trailer from the front.

The front and rear of the vehicle were completely obliterated. The driver and front passenger were killed, but the five children in the vehicle's reinforced passenger compartment (the 'cage') all survived with minor injuries.

Kia schmia.

And that is why my children will be riding around in a Suburban, thank you very much...

: ) Hopper

 

[Doggiedog]

Because the Kia is cheap and I hate MB because they are arrogant jerks and Volvo didn't have an SUV out when I got my SUV (still wouldn't get it though).

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Isn't the car usually run into a concrete wall? I figure that's tougher than an SUV.

There is a difference between running a car into a concrete wall and running a concrete wall into the car.

If you crash a Kia into a Suburban that isn't moving, you get about the same results as the wall. If you crash a Suburban into a Kia, you do a lot more damage to the Kia than the wall did.

: ) Hopper