If you stated here that you never get the flu vaccine, would you do the same for the COVID19 vaccine?

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Will you get the COVID19 vaccine?

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aigomorla

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The only year i didnt get a flu shot, and i ended up with the flu..
I hated it, and learned my lesson not to skip each year, so yes, i am gonna get any vaccine which is recommended.
I even got my booster Hepatitis shot because the last time i got it was when i was young, and i heard you need a booster if you got it back when i did.
If your older then 30, and you got a hep shot when your a kid, you should ask your doctor if you need a booster.
Hepatitis is another hell packaged within the can of worms.
 
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Ichinisan

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Vaccines for petty common diseases is what spreads them and makes them far worse.
Just like all the paranoid types who take meds for everything and use antibacterial everything.
All you're doing is breeding far deadlier and far stronger diseases that can't be treated.

Every year I see the same thing, everybody who gets the flu vaccine gets seriously ill.
Meanwhile my properly and naturally adjusted immune system takes care of the flu for me.
The only people who should take vaccines for petty diseases are the immunocompromised.

People should also learn basic manners and common sense and stop spreading their filth.
Also, learn how to deal with people who insist on spreading their filth.
You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Spreading these falsehoods will harm people. Shame on you.

Even vaccines that trigger symptoms in the recipient DO NOT "spread" any contagion.

Vaccines do not make a virus stronger. THEY CAN'T. Nothing reproduces or spreads from the person who received the vaccine. Giving the real virus a go at infecting more people...THAT is what allows mutations to make the virus stronger.

Elderly / frail people will get infected and die because young healthy people became carriers by listening to your bullshit.
 

pete6032

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Got the flu in 2018.... So this year I got the flu shot for first time ever. No flu for me. Take from that what you will.
There is a less than certain likelihood that the flu vaccine actually protects against the type of flu going around each year. Every year they have to use a predictive model to determine what type of vaccine to produce, and it may or may not be the same as the virus that actually becomes the major flu virus across the country.
 

ondma

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Just to re-interate: VACCINES *DO NOT* CAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESISTANT BACTERIA. THIS IDEA IS A DANGEROUS MISCONCEPTION.
Excessive use of antibiotics does, and should be avoided, as it selectively allows antibiotic resistant strains to multiply.
 

ponyo

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They're supposed to start corona vaccine human trial as early as tomorrow. Let's pray it works.
 
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ondma

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You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Spreading these falsehoods will harm people. Shame on you.

Even vaccines that trigger symptoms in the recipient DO NOT "spread" any contagion.

Vaccines do not make a virus stronger. THEY CAN'T. Nothing reproduces or spreads from the person who received the vaccine. Giving the real virus a go at infecting more people...THAT is what allows mutations to make the virus stronger.

Elderly / frail people will get infected and die because young healthy people became carriers by listening to your bullshit.
This x2.
 

Kaido

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You "science" so not being foolish is a thing.

I'd still rather get the shot & get the flu, than not get the shot & get the flu.

I would definitely get a COVID-19 shot. At the most basic level, it's a matter of statistics: I'd rather tilt the odds in my favor for prevention, than to do nothing & have zero firewalls in place against a possible upcoming attack. It's the same logic I apply to eating against my macros & doing meal-prep...I've been a chubster a couple times in my life & don't want to get back to living an apathetic, low-energy life because of my choices. Doing meal-prep means that I not only have food available in my lunchbox all day long, but that it also fits my macros, which enables me to tilt the odds in my favor that I'll actually feel good, be in good shape, and avoid health problems like high blood pressure, high blood sugar, etc. from being overweight. If, through my actions, there's a chance that I could prevent myself from that fate, or from possibly getting the flu, then I'm definitely interested in setting up a system to achieve those results, whether that means doing meal-prep or getting the flu shot.

I dunno if that's science-y as much as just common sense tho, haha!
 

cytg111

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Dont get the flu vaccine, I would get the Covid19 vaccine of course, not for myself, but those I might pass it onto.
 

allisolm

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Vaccines for petty common diseases is what spreads them and makes them far worse.
WRONG
Just like all the paranoid types who take meds for everything and use antibacterial everything.
All you're doing is breeding far deadlier and far stronger diseases that can't be treated.
WRONG
Every year I see the same thing, everybody who gets the flu vaccine gets seriously ill.
WRONG
Meanwhile my properly and naturally adjusted immune system takes care of the flu for me.
I so don't think so.
The only people who should take vaccines for petty diseases are the immunocompromised.
WRONG

Vaccines have nothing to do with transmission of a disease.
WRONG
In fact it's all the people who take drugs and then think it's OK to spread their filth that cause issues.
WRONG

See my post above.
Please ignore his post above as it is WRONG.

The bold is all mine. The wrongheadedness is all his. Please ignore him for he knows nothing.
 
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BoomerD

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They're supposed to start corona vaccine human trial as early as tomorrow. Let's pray it works.

What the hell was the movie where there was some kind of globalpandemic...and the vaccine turned people into zombies os some such? Was that Will Smith's " I am Legend?"
 

RPD

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I would if it was good at preventing it, the flu vaccine seems to have a low batting average at actually working. E.g. see the flu season we have every year.
 
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I would if it was good at preventing it, the flu vaccine seems to have a low batting average at actually working. E.g. see the flu season we have every year.
A flu season every year is driven in part by people not getting vaccinated. Some years, it doesn't quite match either, but many years, it is a good match for circulating strains.

The logic people use to avoid influenza vaccines is totally beyond me, as it makes no sense
 
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RPD

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Define "good match" and it being successful.

Every year people get sick regardless of how on target the vaccine is. I understand how herd immunity works, but again the flu is so unstable I really don't see the point.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Define "good match" and it being successful.

Everyone people get sick regardless of how on target the vaccine is. I understand how herd immunity works, but again the flu is so unstable I really don't see the point.
If the vaccine prevents a third the number of infections without it, then we're looking at about 15 million who won't get it. There is also partial immunity where others who do become ill have a lesser severity.

It's worth getting the shot.
 
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RPD

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If, that's a pretty big if. I don't see numbers substantiating any of this either.
 
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If, that's a pretty big if. I don't see numbers substantiating any of this either.

"CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses."

"Flu vaccine prevents millions of illnesses and flu-related doctor’s visits each year. For example, during 2017-2018, flu vaccination prevented an estimated 6.2 million influenza illnesses, 3.2 million influenza-associated medical visits, 91,000 influenza-associated hospitalizations, and 5,700 influenza-associated deaths."
 

RPD

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"CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses."

"Flu vaccine prevents millions of illnesses and flu-related doctor’s visits each year. For example, during 2017-2018, flu vaccination prevented an estimated 6.2 million influenza illnesses, 3.2 million influenza-associated medical visits, 91,000 influenza-associated hospitalizations, and 5,700 influenza-associated deaths."
Thanks, it's helpful, but more in the spray and pray method. I've received it some years others not. It's not an equal to other mandated vaccines due to the nature of the virus.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Thanks, it's helpful, but more in the spray and pray method. I've received it some years others not. It's not an equal to other mandated vaccines due to the nature of the virus.

Unprotected sex with no contraception is also spray and pray.
 
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Thanks, it's helpful, but more in the spray and pray method. I've received it some years others not. It's not an equal to other mandated vaccines due to the nature of the virus.
40-60% is great, considering the intrinsic characteristics of influenza that make it somewhat tricky to vaccinate for. A 40-60% risk reduction is hardly spray and pray

To add some perspective: many excellent cancer treatments get approved on those kind of margins (30-60% response rates to treatment compared to placebos or standard of care).
 

RPD

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40-60% is great, considering the intrinsic characteristics of influenza that make it somewhat tricky to vaccinate for. A 40-60% risk reduction is hardly spray and pray

To add some perspective: many excellent cancer treatments get approved on those kind of margins (30-60% response rates to treatment compared to placebos or standard of care).
40-60% is spray and pray compared to the success of other vaccines that I've already stated. The flu has no where near the mortality rate of cancer.
 

balloonshark

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I normally don't get a flu shot since I'm rarely around others and I avoid people who are sick. In Feb I asked my doc about getting the flu shot since it was half way through peak season. I also asked if it was doing a good job preventing the current flus. He said not really so I asked when I should get the shot for next season. He said he gets his late Oct. and said that's when I should get mine. I do plan on getting one this year since I'm approaching 50 and was born with a health problem. I also like the idea of it reducing symptoms if I get the normal flu.

Would I get a covid-19 vaccine. Hell yes. If there is anything I can do to save other more vulnerable people from getting sick and dying sign me up.
 
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40-60% is spray and pray compared to the success of other vaccines that I've already stated. The flu has no where near the mortality rate of cancer.
Yeah, it's worse compared to the efficacy of other vaccines. But those vaccines don't have to contend with diseases that are constantly mutating and sending new strains around the globe. Anyway, last time I checked, 40-60% risk reduction is a hell of a lot more than 0% risk reduction with no vaccine.
 
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