If you have an x2 please post

[phillyman36]

Ive switched back and forth from Asrocks to an Asus deluxe/premium to Msi neo 4 plat.,. I usually dont overclock and run at stock but it would be nice to overclock (if its easy) I do flash gaming and mostly dvd shrink, and medi encoding(video). My current rig is

Asus 865pe mobo, northwood 3.2 and a Bfg 6800gt(agp)(2 stick corsair value pc3200 1gig total) and 2 160 gig Segeate drives (pata).

A buddy will buy my video card and mobo and cpu so i dont mind getting a new card pci express(probably a 6600 since i dont do heavy gaming)

If you have a x2 please post here and let me know what mobo you have and if you like it, any problems.

i want a good stable reliable fast mobo.

I need to make a decison today so help me out before i loose my mind ps i would like to have onboard firewire(a)

 

[Kyanzes]

I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum & a 4200 X2 (I also own an MSI K8N SLI but still waiting for the PCI-E card). They run perfectly together, no issues at all hw wise. Also check out the gaming issues with X2! A lot of people (including me) having issues running certain titles while others run flawlessly. Looks like a sw bug.

One of the threads.

You should still go for the X2.

 

[ncage]

Ya phil im having the same dilema. I am waiting to see an overclock for someone with the ULI ASRock board to make my decision.

 

[Pabster]

Go with the X2. The 3800+ is an incredible bargain right now, but swing for the 4400+ if you can. Toledo cores are better.

As for the motherboard, I don't care for MSI or DFI (both of which lots here would reccommend). I'm using an ASUS A8N-E. No issues.

The ASRock ULi board looks nice.

 

[Kyanzes]

The real advantage of any K8N NF4 mobos over A8N-E is that the FireWire, GigabitLan and most importantly the SATA controller are no longer integrated on the PCI bus. Unfortunately the A8N has all of them on the PCI bus.

 

[cronic]

i'm runnin the rig in my signature, and i love it. i moved to this setup from an asus sli-deluxe mb and a fx-55. the asus is a nice motherboard but i like to extra overclocking features of the dfi sli-dr. as for the difference between a single core and dual core cpu, once you have used a dual core x2 you will never go back to a single core. thanks

 

[gbohn]

I am running an X2 4400 in an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium. I got it mainly for the passive cooling (for the NForce 4) and the 7 slots.

I'm generally happy with it. I use the Nforce 4 SATA, but didn't install the Nvidia IDE drivers.

I haven't tried the built-in sound (I have the Audigy 2), the SI SATA ports, or any RAID functionality. The Nvidia 'Hardware Firewall' stuff is a disaster (at least on my setup) if I try to run it (so I don't). The Nforce 4 Gigabit ethernet seems to work o.k. on my Gigabit network.

When I tried it out, the best (2X Prime95 stable) overclock I could get (at stock Voltage) was 208x11 (about 4%). So, I must have the worlds suckiest X2 4400+ chip... (It has less headroom than the 5% safety margin I would have used if it had overclocked any better.)

Same motherboard/memory used to have a 3700+ and that would do a 21% Prime 95 stable overclock (at 242 x 11)...

 

[phillyman36]

gbohn what exactly do the Nvidia IDE drivers do/suppose to do?

 

[gbohn]

Originally posted by: phillyman36
gbohn what exactly do the Nvidia IDE drivers do/suppose to do?

I'm not exactly sure what they're supposed to buy you. I figured I'd stick with the native Microsoft ones until as such time as I had a compelling reason to change. (Especially after seeing how well the Nvidia ethernet Firewall stuff works on my system...)

 

[phillyman36]

gbohn and pabster can you go into what you loaded and or didnt load on your build ie

Sample

after everything hooked up loaded new bios
installed xp then drivers of compenents (didnt use any of drivers on cd)

Something like what i wrote above im trying to see if people are having problems because they are overclocking

 

[Superguy]

Well, I have an X2 3800 trying to ride on an Asus A8N-SLI Premium.

I've had nothing but problems, and I got the vCore bug.

I'm thinking this is going back.

 

[Hacp]

I go thte DFI. Don't reccomend it. Ya sure its good for overclocks, but I would rather go with the MSI. It seems to have less problems with memory, and it can overclock also.

 

[phillyman36]

Originally posted by: Superguy
Well, I have an X2 3800 trying to ride on an Asus A8N-SLI Premium.

I've had nothing but problems, and I got the vCore bug.

I'm thinking this is going back.

Superguy can you tell me
1) what your rig consists of ie ram type, video card etc etc
2) what problems are you having
3) what bios version and how old is your mobo

 

[splat1]

I have the 3800x2 on a evga nf41 board. Its extremely fast. If your overclocking this is the chip to get. Stable at over 2.6ghz on air.

 

[Superguy]

Originally posted by: phillyman36

Originally posted by: Superguy
Well, I have an X2 3800 trying to ride on an Asus A8N-SLI Premium.

I've had nothing but problems, and I got the vCore bug.

I'm thinking this is going back.

Superguy can you tell me
1) what your rig consists of ie ram type, video card etc etc
2) what problems are you having
3) what bios version and how old is your mobo

Sure.

X2 3800
Thermalright SI120
2GB Mushkin PC4000
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
Radeon X800 Pro
Antec TPII 550W p/s
2 x 37 GB Raptors - RAID 0
250GB WD SATA
120GB WD SATA (original storage)
Audigy 2ZS

Current bios - 1006. Did try 1007 but went to 1006

Problem's mainly been with stability. I figured out the drive corruption problems were due to NAM. I've had problems with web browsing ... pages don't load all the way. It loads partially, then just stops and says it's done.

Overclocking is pretty much out of the question, thanks to vCore. My chip seems to be capable of doing 2.5 at 250 x 10, but it seems to need a little more vCore than what it will supply. I'm thinking it needs around 1.4v or so, but vCore sticks at 1.36v. Last night, a failed overclocking attempt completely borked windows and I ended up reinstalling. XP wouldn't even come at stock speeds ... just an endless reboot loop ... wouldn't even load into safe mode. Got the endless reboots because of it.

Hasn't really been stable enough to play games. I thought I had it stable, but then something's always happened.

All of the core components are brand new. My first build attempt was on Thursday. P/S is about 2 months old, and worked fine in my P4 rig. As did the Raptors and the 120GB HD.

Right now, I'm thinking of sending it back for the Gigabyte 8KNXP-SLI. I'm not buying SLI for the SLI, but I'm buying it for the ability to use the other slot for, hopefully future peripherals like a sound card. I heard that if Creative releases a PCI-E X-Fi, it will probably be x4.

Thanks,

Super

 

[phillyman36]

This is making my head hurt lol ive gone on newegg and started to order equipment like 6 times either

Im keeping my Bfg 6800gt agp and getting the asrocks mobo and only spend $470.00 for a x2-3800 and the mobo

or i get the x2-3800, Asus sli nforce4 mobo, 6600 or 6600gt pci express and a sata II(3g) 200 mb hard drive all that would cost about $900.00 ish

i would sell my 6800 gt and get about $190.00is and maybe 150 to 200 for my old mobo and cpu(northwood 3.2)

For some reason i keep thinking the Asrock board is slow(dont know why) but the along with a x2-3800 should still kick the crap out of my current rig(northwood) right?

 

[stevty2889]

I have the X2 4200+ with a DFI NF4 ultra-D, great overclocking features, probably a bit too many options. The board is a bit picky about memory, but seems good other than that. I am running at 2.618ghz, 1.475 vcore, 238x11, HTT 238x4, mem at DDR374 2.5-3-3-7 1T.

 

[phillyman36]

I dont think a DFI board is for me. i dont know enough about overclocking and from what I hear its not a newbie board. ill probably stoay at stock speeds

 

[gbohn]

Originally posted by: phillyman36
gbohn and pabster can you go into what you loaded and or didnt load on your build ie
...

I'm trying to remember exactly what I loaded, but it's all a blur right now. I'm pretty sure the Asus CD does something just because you put it in.

I'm think I then installed the Nforce 4 AMD 6.65 drivers, and installed the Ethernet drivers (definitely NOT the NAM/Firewall and IDE driver stuff).

I later tried the NAM drivers, which was a bad plan. Updating to NAM in 6.66 was an even worse plan (at least on my system). I reverted back to my previous 6.65 setup (w/o NAM) from a backup, and updated the base ethernet drivers with 6.66.

The only wierd problem I have is if I play Doom-3 Ressurection with the Creative Labs EAX HD 4 stuff enabled, I sometimes get a bugcheck/stop crash 0xE7. If EAX HD 4 is off, this doesn't happen.

All other 3D games so far have run without a problem (well aside from HALO needing affinity set to one CPU, but that's common to multi-CPU, not the MB), so I've been assuming this is Creative Labs Audigy/2 driver issue.

I have everything set to run at 100% stock speeds.