If you fail a drug test for company A... would company B know?

jinduy

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would company A somehow permanently tarnish my record by saying i tested postive for drugs? i'm asking for a friend o mine (or am i).
 
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Depends on who company B uses for their testing. ;)

Drugs are bad, mmkay?

Edit: I'm pretty sure HIPPA rules apply here. So no. They can't point and shout "DRUGGIE!" every time you apply for a job.
 

Jadow

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The answer is, NO.

Drug Testing companies do not share one client's drug test results with another client. If Company A drug tests, they use a TPA (third party administrator) for their drug testing, the TPA's may have the database with tons of results, however, the result belongs to the client it was for, so if you test positive for company A, and then you get an offer from Company B, the positive test from company A has no bearing. This is an industry wide standard practive, I have worked specifically in this very industry for years, and guarantee you, this is how it works.
 

BigJ

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How'd you manage to fail a drug test? If it was anything but urine I could understand, but if it was you really have to try to fail those things.
 

torpid

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Unless B and A are actually the same company, you could sue them for big bucks if they shared that information. It's a gross violation of HIPAA and patient confidentiality in general.
 

Zolty

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I still don't know how one fails a drug test; if you know you are going to test positive why embarrass yourself.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Zolty
I still don't know how one fails a drug test; if you know you are going to test positive why embarrass yourself.

Use of masking agents/other ways to cheat the system. I mean worst case scenario, you still don't get the job. Best case scenario, you beat the system and get the job. It's not like anybody besides the employer will know.

And no I've never tried to or had a reason to try to beat the system.
 

Amused

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Unfortunately, no. They cannot share that information.

Stop doing drugs and sh!t like this won't happen.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zolty
I still don't know how one fails a drug test; if you know you are going to test positive why embarrass yourself.

Use of masking agents/other ways to cheat the system. I mean worst case scenario, you still don't get the job. Best case scenario, you beat the system and get the job. It's not like anybody besides the employer will know.

And no I've never tried to or had a reason to try to beat the system.

yeah seriously if your too stoned to figure out how to cheat the system you don't deserve the job.
 

ggnl

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Originally posted by: Jadow
The answer is, NO.

Drug Testing companies do not share one client's drug test results with another client. If Company A drug tests, they use a TPA (third party administrator) for their drug testing, the TPA's may have the database with tons of results, however, the result belongs to the client it was for, so if you test positive for company A, and then you get an offer from Company B, the positive test from company A has no bearing. This is an industry wide standard practive, I have worked specifically in this very industry for years, and guarantee you, this is how it works.

Not necessarily true. My employer tests through a network of testers that keep results on file. You can be denied employment if you've ever failed within that network of testers, even if it was completely unrelated to the current job. The policy is clearly communicated before they ever send you to test though, so there aren't any suprises.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Jadow
The answer is, NO.

Drug Testing companies do not share one client's drug test results with another client. If Company A drug tests, they use a TPA (third party administrator) for their drug testing, the TPA's may have the database with tons of results, however, the result belongs to the client it was for, so if you test positive for company A, and then you get an offer from Company B, the positive test from company A has no bearing. This is an industry wide standard practive, I have worked specifically in this very industry for years, and guarantee you, this is how it works.

Not necessarily true. My employer tests through a network of testers that keep results on file. You can be denied employment if you've ever failed within that network of testers, even if it was completely unrelated to the current job. The policy is clearly communicated before they ever send you to test though, so there aren't any suprises.

So basically you're authorizing them to access Healthcare records?
 

ggnl

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Jadow
The answer is, NO.

Drug Testing companies do not share one client's drug test results with another client. If Company A drug tests, they use a TPA (third party administrator) for their drug testing, the TPA's may have the database with tons of results, however, the result belongs to the client it was for, so if you test positive for company A, and then you get an offer from Company B, the positive test from company A has no bearing. This is an industry wide standard practive, I have worked specifically in this very industry for years, and guarantee you, this is how it works.

Not necessarily true. My employer tests through a network of testers that keep results on file. You can be denied employment if you've ever failed within that network of testers, even if it was completely unrelated to the current job. The policy is clearly communicated before they ever send you to test though, so there aren't any suprises.

So basically you're authorizing them to access Healthcare records?

More or less. You have to sign a release authorizing the network of testers to give the results of any testing done to any future employers that request them.
 

BoomerD

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When I worked in the bay area refineries, it was a requirement that you be L="DISA"]http://www.disa.com/programs/drug_alcohol.html[/L] certified. That allows ALL DISA employers to see your drug testing records. Many of the crane contractors in the area require it as well.
Personally, if they want to spend the ~$50. to test me...ok...if they got the money, I got the time...(because they have to pay my applicable hourly wages when I test...


 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Jadow
The answer is, NO.

Drug Testing companies do not share one client's drug test results with another client. If Company A drug tests, they use a TPA (third party administrator) for their drug testing, the TPA's may have the database with tons of results, however, the result belongs to the client it was for, so if you test positive for company A, and then you get an offer from Company B, the positive test from company A has no bearing. This is an industry wide standard practive, I have worked specifically in this very industry for years, and guarantee you, this is how it works.

Not necessarily true. My employer tests through a network of testers that keep results on file. You can be denied employment if you've ever failed within that network of testers, even if it was completely unrelated to the current job. The policy is clearly communicated before they ever send you to test though, so there aren't any suprises.


well if its for the same company, i don't see why not. we're talking about different companies.
 

ggnl

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Jadow
The answer is, NO.

Drug Testing companies do not share one client's drug test results with another client. If Company A drug tests, they use a TPA (third party administrator) for their drug testing, the TPA's may have the database with tons of results, however, the result belongs to the client it was for, so if you test positive for company A, and then you get an offer from Company B, the positive test from company A has no bearing. This is an industry wide standard practive, I have worked specifically in this very industry for years, and guarantee you, this is how it works.

Not necessarily true. My employer tests through a network of testers that keep results on file. You can be denied employment if you've ever failed within that network of testers, even if it was completely unrelated to the current job. The policy is clearly communicated before they ever send you to test though, so there aren't any suprises.


well if its for the same company, i don't see why not. we're talking about different companies.


I am talking about different companies. Any company can subscribe to the screening network, and they can see the results of your past screens even if they were for another company (that also subscribes to the network).
 

BoomerD

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I believe that in order for the drug network to share your test with another company, you have to authorize that sharing. Just because company A & B belong to Drug-Tests-R-Us network, and you test for company A and fail it, that doesn't give Company B access to that info without YOUR consent...which often you give without realizing it...
 

jinduy

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as i said it's not for me. my childhood friend, now close to 30, is still blazing stuff, since it doesn't do any harm and only does good, so he's trying to find a min wage job and is worried about drug screening. he suffers serious mental withdrawls (cant sleep, sweats like crazy) and has trouble staying off of the stuff despite what everyone tells him.